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how is a slip on and a k&n putting the R back in? you might wanna ya know... throw some aluminum pistons in, forged or ti rods, ti valves, balance and blueprint the entire bottom end, take out the counter shaft, re design the head flow a bit maybe just a port job and a 3 angle valve job, grind your cams, upgrade ignition, better springs for 13k+ rpm, cryo the tranny while your at it, put some coatings on everything, upgrade the oil cooler, cryo and shot peen your crank, new clutch from a SV (follow ben2go's guide). At this point you might be maxing out the small carbs, take it to the next level and go EFI with a full MPFI system. If you do all these things or even half of them... you might be able to say you have a R... till then its a GS and treat it as such... its not a race bike... Its about as slow as a mildly tuned honda... guess you could always just throw some N2O on it and call it a day...
Quote from: crzydood17 on July 15, 2011, 02:55:17 AM
how is a slip on and a k&n putting the R back in? you might wanna ya know... throw some aluminum pistons in, forged or ti rods, ti valves, balance and blueprint the entire bottom end, take out the counter shaft, re design the head flow a bit maybe just a port job and a 3 angle valve job, grind your cams, upgrade ignition, better springs for 13k+ rpm, cryo the tranny while your at it, put some coatings on everything, upgrade the oil cooler, cryo and shot peen your crank, new clutch from a SV (follow ben2go's guide). At this point you might be maxing out the small carbs, take it to the next level and go EFI with a full MPFI system. If you do all these things or even half of them... you might be able to say you have a R... till then its a GS and treat it as such... its not a race bike... Its about as slow as a mildly tuned honda... guess you could always just throw some N2O on it and call it a day...
And where's your project?
First thing id do before anything is suspension.
Get your springs front and rear out of the way, FE swap if your going that route, lowering links if you want them, the new chain and sprockets and tires, upgrade the brake pads and rotors if your going to while the tires are off.
Once its rolling correct, start fiddling with everything.
No use having a vehicle with an exhaust and better intake if its mushy like a marshmellow and slides sideways cause the tires are so shot.
Little word of advice: skip the clubmans. They always seem like a good idea but clip ons work so much better. If you get chrome bars, the chrome has to be sandblasted off before paint can stick to them. Check out the Tarozzi high rise clip ons here:
http://www.fastfromthepast.com/servlet/the-Clip-dsh-ons/Categories
The only other thing I'll add is to rejet the carbs yourself. It's a LOT easier than what you may think and you'll know it's done right.
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we have 37mm fork tubes, those are 50mm.
Nope.
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They'll work.
Ask buddha though, they may have a vibration issue.
those actually look pretty decent. and for 40 bucks more you can convert to offset clip-ons....
for street, i'd consider the high rise and just set them lower....if you don't like position you have the option to raise them a bit
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I recently changed the chain on mine with an RK - it seems to be fine. If you are gonna do sprockets (and want some more pep) I would definitely suggest going down a tooth or two on the front - depending on the type of riding you will be doing. I don't mind helping you with the jets and clip-ons... have been looking at the fastfromthepast clip-ons myself!
Quote from: crzydood17 on July 15, 2011, 02:55:17 AM
how is a slip on and a k&n putting the R back in? you might wanna ya know... throw some aluminum pistons in, forged or ti rods, ti valves, balance and blueprint the entire bottom end, take out the counter shaft, re design the head flow a bit maybe just a port job and a 3 angle valve job, grind your cams, upgrade ignition, better springs for 13k+ rpm, cryo the tranny while your at it, put some coatings on everything, upgrade the oil cooler, cryo and shot peen your crank, new clutch from a SV (follow ben2go's guide). At this point you might be maxing out the small carbs, take it to the next level and go EFI with a full MPFI system. If you do all these things or even half of them... you might be able to say you have a R... till then its a GS and treat it as such... its not a race bike... Its about as slow as a mildly tuned honda... guess you could always just throw some N2O on it and call it a day...
Nice work having a sarcastic dig at one of the new members crzydood17 - you really showed him.
Congratulations, the d!ck of the day award has been handed back to you mate :thumb:
Quote from: Ourea on July 15, 2011, 09:57:04 PM
Sold (I ended up getting the 70mm high-rise, you're right that if I dont like the position I can set them lower).
http://www.fastfromthepast.com/servlet/the-742/Clip-dsh-on-High-Rise-Handlebars/Detail (http://www.fastfromthepast.com/servlet/the-742/Clip-dsh-on-High-Rise-Handlebars/Detail)
Can anyone explain how to get them under the plates? otherwise Im going to have to go to the shop for this one.
Undo the top clamp (around the top of the forks and the steering stem - I think it's 4 bolts?) after getting everything else out of the way. Tank, handle bars, maybe unbolt the instrument cluster, yada yada yada. It's really not hard to do since your controls are coming off the bars anyway. Are you getting new grips? If so, now is the time to replace them.
Quote from: crzydood17 on July 15, 2011, 02:55:17 AM
how is a slip on and a k&n putting the R back in? you might wanna ya know... throw some aluminum pistons in, forged or ti rods, ti valves, balance and blueprint the entire bottom end, take out the counter shaft, re design the head flow a bit maybe just a port job and a 3 angle valve job, grind your cams, upgrade ignition, better springs for 13k+ rpm, cryo the tranny while your at it, put some coatings on everything, upgrade the oil cooler, cryo and shot peen your crank, new clutch from a SV (follow ben2go's guide). At this point you might be maxing out the small carbs, take it to the next level and go EFI with a full MPFI system. If you do all these things or even half of them... you might be able to say you have a R... till then its a GS and treat it as such... its not a race bike... Its about as slow as a mildly tuned honda... guess you could always just throw some N2O on it and call it a day...
Have you done all that stuff, dood?? Let's see
your piece since you're such an expert. :bs:
Hey! Mine's already got aluminum pistons! : ) Al
My cams came ground, too! I'm gettin' there! : )
Al
Quote from: joelmath on July 16, 2011, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: crzydood17 on July 15, 2011, 02:55:17 AM
how is a slip on and a k&n putting the R back in? you might wanna ya know... throw some aluminum pistons in, forged or ti rods, ti valves, balance and blueprint the entire bottom end, take out the counter shaft, re design the head flow a bit maybe just a port job and a 3 angle valve job, grind your cams, upgrade ignition, better springs for 13k+ rpm, cryo the tranny while your at it, put some coatings on everything, upgrade the oil cooler, cryo and shot peen your crank, new clutch from a SV (follow ben2go's guide). At this point you might be maxing out the small carbs, take it to the next level and go EFI with a full MPFI system. If you do all these things or even half of them... you might be able to say you have a R... till then its a GS and treat it as such... its not a race bike... Its about as slow as a mildly tuned honda... guess you could always just throw some N2O on it and call it a day...
Have you done all that stuff, dood?? Let's see your piece since you're such an expert. :bs:
nope and dont plan to, my bike is a GS... it will stay a GS, it will not be raced it wont be abused and it will be driven 30 miles to work and back, When I am ready for a R i will grab a GSX750R... till then I ride a commuter standard bike. Sadly no matter how fast it looks or sounds... Its still a 35 WHP bike that does 0-60 in 7ish seconds and revs to 10500ish... This might as well be a guy with a honda going IM GUNNA PUT A INTAKE AND A EXHAUST ON MY CAR AND CALL IT A TYPE R! o god... thats exactly what it is... :icon_rolleyes:
there was never a R to put back in... IF he had said "My GS500 build project" totaly different story... If i remember right the last 2 people to legitimately put the X and the R into a GS500 added 2 cylinders and 100CC and made 2 monsters o and honda power lol!
Is it just me, or are there no pics in this whole thread,........ :dunno_black:
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/larryo340/Funny%20Pictures/2242132459_cfde3e7a6c_o.jpg?t=1277681537)
Geez Crzydood, don't get all bent out of shape about it. So what if he wants to add an R to the name? All it stands for is "racing"- which he can do between stop signs against a car, on the highway against a Ninja 250, or even another GS. Do you own a copy right on the letter R? Somehow I doubt it. It's his bike, his project, his title, period.
The shot peened rods, 4 valves per cylinder, etc, etc, blah blah blah are commonly given to the X's (GSX-R) according to Wikipedia since Suzuki doesn't specify what each letter really means. And if you want to follow Wiki's logic, the X stands for "experimental"- something that major manufacturers don't do any more. All the production bikes are past the experiment phase.
You say potato, I say french fries.
not bent, just was part of the honda community for a while and have a big hatred for visual only modders that brag how fast they are... My honda was bone stock (aside from 15 inch light weight rims) visually and ran low 15s (laughable by any sports car standard) but i didn't have anything to back up so I didn't care, when I drove around I didn't have people trying to race me.
X generally refers to the fact that its got 4 valves (though this has recently been looked over on the standard bikes GSR600/750). R generally means its a race replica, just like the CBR RR's and yamaha Rs. the Katana (the fastest bike produced when it came out) was a GSX600/750F because it wasn't a race replica. I can race a stock geo metro that doesn't make it a Geo Metro Type R.
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/282539_2281986572420_1331504559_2698376_3284960_n.jpg)
I smoke Geo Metros and Ford Fiestas all day long,....... :icon_mrgreen:
Wait.That looks like a Geo Metro.
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on July 26, 2011, 06:29:54 AM
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I smoke Geo Metros and Ford Fiestas all day long,....... :icon_mrgreen:
Thats awesome! :2guns: :bowdown: