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Title: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 17, 2011, 09:02:20 AM
I've been taking care of variable kingsnake eggs for a member on this forum (Adfalchius) while her and BaltimoreGS go on their cross country trip.  Well, BaltimoreGS and Adfalchius left yesterday and the eggs hatched.  She's pretty upset that she wasn't here to witness it and even joked that she was coming back home. :D It's quite an experience watching these little guys/gals leaving their shells.  Right now there are about four snakes out of their eggs and three more attempting to escape.  I believe there are ten eggs, so we're having success.  She wasn't even sure if any of the snakes would hatch.

Here are some crappy phone pictures:
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/IMAG0273.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/IMAG0274.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/IMAG0276.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/IMAG0277.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/IMAG0281.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/IMAG0279.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/IMAG0280.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 17, 2011, 09:58:31 AM
NICE work. now as long as they dont call you "daddy" youre ok. ive got a damned cat named dammit that looks to me as mommy ( and im male. damn thing will not eat for or around anyone else. ahem anyways, i tried to clean up image slightly for you

(http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u360/gstwin/snakes.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: redhawkdancing on July 18, 2011, 04:37:01 AM
Awww.....let them go free!   :cheers:
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: Porkchop on July 18, 2011, 06:40:18 AM
Wow, Adfalchius is into snakes.  It makes me wonder if she has any snake tats. :o  Anyway, its very nice of you to play mommy snake while they're gone.  What do baby snakes eat?

- Porkchop
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: The Buddha on July 18, 2011, 08:48:11 AM
Quote from: Porkchop on July 18, 2011, 06:40:18 AM
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What do baby snakes eat?

Ans: - Porkchop

So what snakes are they ? something cool like a cobra or something ? or some grass snake.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: scratch on July 18, 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Variable Kingsnake.  Beautiful!
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: The Buddha on July 18, 2011, 10:09:05 AM
Quote from: scratch on July 18, 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Variable Kingsnake.  Beautiful!

Oh yea that was in the post, I thought it was some variable stuff, who knew. Poisonous ?
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 18, 2011, 01:39:00 PM
The snakes are not poisonous and they eat pinkies (which are baby mice).
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 18, 2011, 08:33:29 PM
awesome. msot of them eat LIVE . not dead prey. its interesting to watch sometimes
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 18, 2011, 10:09:07 PM
These will be eating dead prey for the time being.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: dohabee on July 19, 2011, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: ver4 on July 18, 2011, 10:09:07 PM
These will be eating dead prey for the time being.

I have heard that makes them less aggressive than snakes that eat live prey; any truth to that?
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 19, 2011, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: dohabee on July 19, 2011, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: ver4 on July 18, 2011, 10:09:07 PM
These will be eating dead prey for the time being.

I have heard that makes them less aggressive than snakes that eat live prey; any truth to that?
I'm not too sure as these are the first snakes that I have raised.  Maybe someone else knows.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: Adfalchius on July 19, 2011, 07:09:29 PM
Holy mother of snakes!!!  Those are awesome!  Thanks, ver4, for the babysitting and posting!!  I'll name one after you, haha. These are also called Thayeri, or Nuevo Leon Kingsnakes- great beginner snake, tame as dogs, great color variation (hence the name Variable King).

dohabee- feeding live doesn't necessarily make them agressive (it's not a good idea for multiple reasons)- it just trains them to strike at moving things (for instance your hand).  Since alot of live food can readily attack back, they also can get more defensive, flighty.

I think redhawkdancing wants you to release one or two in her house, ver4.

Porkchop- no tats, no piercings...all natural/organic, baby.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: The Buddha on July 19, 2011, 08:02:01 PM
Oh wow, these are "beginner snakes" kinda like a GS  :laugh:

You know in the GSXR forums they dont talk about nothing less than a king cobra or an anaconda, minimum.  O0

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 19, 2011, 09:56:26 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on July 19, 2011, 08:02:01 PM
Oh wow, these are "beginner snakes" kinda like a GS  :laugh:

You know in the GSXR forums they dont talk about nothing less than a king cobra or an anaconda, minimum.  O0

Cool.
Buddha.
well they are mostly squids so. id expect nothing else. id LOL when one would write abotu getting one. then again when htey Buddha Loves You abotu beign bitten or almost strangled ive had to snake wrangle before. and was not fun. get a rattlesnake away from my bosses horses. pin it down, and get it away from them. did that by pinning its head down and then moving in to capture it
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 20, 2011, 09:10:05 PM
Here are some better photos:
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Meaghan005.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Meaghan019.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Meaghan020.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Meaghan021.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Meaghan022.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Meaghan023.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Meaghan024.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Meaghan025.jpg)

A snake had actually escaped while I was taking these pictures.  I tore my room apart, but to no avail.  I had given up; however, as I was looking at some school documents I noticed it out of the corner of my eye and put it back in its box with the rest of them.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 21, 2011, 02:36:51 AM
might consider a deeper container. else it will happen again :technical:
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 21, 2011, 06:14:11 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on July 21, 2011, 02:36:51 AM
might consider a deeper container. else it will happen again :technical:
I have lids for the containers, so they'll be fine.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: redhawkdancing on July 21, 2011, 07:08:32 AM
Quote from: Adfalchius on July 19, 2011, 07:09:29 PM
dohabee- feeding live doesn't necessarily make them agressive (it's not a good idea for multiple reasons)- it just trains them to strike at moving things (for instance your hand).  Since alot of live food can readily attack back, they also can get more defensive, flighty.

I think redhawkdancing wants you to release one or two in her house, ver4.


My Ball Python eats live. if you don't handle him before he is fed, he starts getting the idea that everytime the cage is opened, he is getting fed. I've been bit once in 16 years. It was my fault for not handling him more often.  As far as food attacking back...well, they have tried...lol. 

Releasing them in HIS house would be a bad idea. the dogs are highly offended by the very presents of the slithery ones!   I do feel kind of bad keeping them caged up though. I know mine couldn't survive on his own outside, but your babies could!  :cheers:

Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: cbrfxr67 on July 21, 2011, 08:20:53 AM
How about these?  These were crawling all over the place at the river near where we were fishing on Sunday.  We caught three of them.  Who knows how many more there were.  Anybody know what they are?
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/267822_2264856344175_1331504559_2672050_1576583_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284225_2264856144170_1331504559_2672049_2658478_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 21, 2011, 08:32:22 AM
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on July 21, 2011, 08:20:53 AM
How about these?  These were crawling all over the place at the river near where we were fishing on Sunday.  We caught three of them.  Who knows how many more there were.  Anybody know what they are?
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/267822_2264856344175_1331504559_2672050_1576583_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284225_2264856144170_1331504559_2672049_2658478_n.jpg)
Looks like a water moccasin which is an extremely venomous snake.

I could be wrong, though.

Edit:  The head looks to be in the shape of a viper, so that's my reasoning.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 21, 2011, 08:37:16 AM
This site may help with identification:
http://www.texassnakes.net/pictures.html (http://www.texassnakes.net/pictures.html)
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: cbrfxr67 on July 21, 2011, 08:54:58 AM
I thought maybe they were water moccasins.  Just wanted to see if any of you guys might know for sure.  :)

Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: Adfalchius on July 21, 2011, 07:10:14 PM
Were the eye pupils vertical (moccasin) or round (water snake)?  You've got guts to pick up a snake you couldn't identify.   :o
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: cbrfxr67 on July 22, 2011, 07:49:12 AM
I think they were slits.  Just pin that sucker down with a stick and grab it behind the head.  Read up on moccasins and it said they don't flee like most snakes and these snakes weren't in any hurry to get away from us.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: The Buddha on July 22, 2011, 12:40:58 PM
It looks like you are holding them very tight ... You squeeze the venom out ? maybe its worth serious $.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 22, 2011, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on July 22, 2011, 12:40:58 PM
It looks like you are holding them very tight ... You squeeze the venom out ? maybe its worth serious $.

Cool.
Buddha.

That's not how you get venom. You have to slide an object behind its fangs and squeeze the venom out. The way they are holding it is so the snake doesn't bite them. The snake cannot turn its head to bite in that position.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 23, 2011, 02:57:14 PM
Update: Out of the ten eggs only eight survived.  The other two eggs produced snakes, but they did not make it.  Shedding in the snakes has begun and after that feeding will commence.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: PachmanP on July 24, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: ver4 on July 23, 2011, 02:57:14 PM
Update: Out of the ten eggs only eight survived.  The other two eggs produced snakes, but they did not make it.  Shedding in the snakes has begun and after that feeding will commence.

You're going to eat the babies!?!?! Nooooooooooo
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 24, 2011, 08:37:52 PM
Quote from: PachmanP on July 24, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: ver4 on July 23, 2011, 02:57:14 PM
Update: Out of the ten eggs only eight survived.  The other two eggs produced snakes, but they did not make it.  Shedding in the snakes has begun and after that feeding will commence.

You're going to eat the babies!?!?! Nooooooooooo
Grillin' dem babies.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: bettingpython on July 25, 2011, 12:57:30 PM
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on July 21, 2011, 08:20:53 AM
How about these?  These were crawling all over the place at the river near where we were fishing on Sunday.  We caught three of them.  Who knows how many more there were.  Anybody know what they are?
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/267822_2264856344175_1331504559_2672050_1576583_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284225_2264856144170_1331504559_2672049_2658478_n.jpg)

Banded water snakes. . . and as someone else said awful brave to be picking up a snake you can't identify positively identify.
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: ver4 on July 25, 2011, 03:59:54 PM
After first shed:
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Baby%20Snakes/BabySnakesFirstShed012.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Baby%20Snakes/BabySnakesFirstShed011.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Baby%20Snakes/BabySnakesFirstShed009.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Baby%20Snakes/BabySnakesFirstShed008.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Baby%20Snakes/BabySnakesFirstShed007.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Baby%20Snakes/BabySnakesFirstShed006.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Baby%20Snakes/BabySnakesFirstShed003.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Baby%20Snakes/BabySnakesFirstShed002.jpg)
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/Baby%20Snakes/BabySnakesFirstShed001.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: cbrfxr67 on July 25, 2011, 04:29:34 PM
Wow check em out!  Great pics.  I've never seen a snake like that.   :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 28, 2011, 11:26:38 PM
took friends gransport up 2700ft ( mccloud mtn) to look at his property again. i LOL at this sign but is DOT approved so its at base

(http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u360/gstwin/photo.jpg) and road is insanelol. anyhoo not 500ft past this sign we see this witha  viper shaped head. ID'ed as a timber rattlesnake

(http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u360/gstwin/snake.jpg)
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 28, 2011, 11:29:04 PM
Quote from: PachmanP on July 24, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Quote from: ver4 on July 23, 2011, 02:57:14 PM
Update: Out of the ten eggs only eight survived.  The other two eggs produced snakes, but they did not make it.  Shedding in the snakes has begun and after that feeding will commence.

You're going to eat the babies!?!?! Nooooooooooo
tastes like chicken. well rattlesnake meat does
Title: Re: Baby Snakes
Post by: bill14224 on July 29, 2011, 02:55:55 PM
I thought this thread was gonna be about Frank Zappa!