Is there some where I could mount some flush mounts? Any ideas?
yeah... right where the big goofy ones are now ;)
Quote from: lucky4034 on August 28, 2011, 05:43:09 PM
yeah... right where the big goofy ones are now ;)
"Big goofy ones" ... That made me laugh out loud.
I was actually hoping to remove the whole rear fender part, and mount the license plate on the swing arm. I need another place to put them....
Uhm, just drill 'em on the rear fairing. It isn't hard to do measure twice drill once! I did it on the front and they are killer. Be aware that they are not easily visible though. Only reason I have flushmounts is because it is in addition to my integrated mirrors :thumb:
Mary
do you have pics by any chance?
I'll grab some tomorrow. Flick is sleeping over the BF's garage.
Mary
Here ya go :thumb:
Here is from afar.
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Close up!
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Mary
My '01 has them on the rear.
-Jessie
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Or get an integrated tail light with the blinkers built in. I've got the Clear Alternatives and I love it. Tail is super clean with no signals.
Quote from: joelmath on September 04, 2011, 03:32:25 PM
Or get an integrated tail light with the blinkers built in. I've got the Clear Alternatives and I love it. Tail is super clean with no signals.
is there a write up for this?
Although not 100% sure I believe the clear alternatives is plug and play or they have detailed instructions inside. :dunno_black: but I'd be a little scared that other drivers would comprehend that your turn signal is also your tail light. Also, are they DOT approved?
Mary
i just installed my clear alternatives integrated tail. got to from 58cycle, it was a pretty straight forward installation. i removed my stock signals which complicated the process a bit more.
installation is as follow.
-remove stock lens
-remove left bulb socket(to run signal wires) and plug integrate board in right socket
-use given connectors to attach light's signal wires to bike wires
-install resistors
i removed my stock signals so i ground out the circuit to the sub frame and ran the lights signal wires straight into the bikes quick disconnect. if stock signal are left, all thats needed is a screw driver to remove lens, and a set of pliers to use given clamps to tap into each wire
heres a thread with photos and videos of the final product:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56103.msg635135#msg635135
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on September 05, 2011, 02:15:04 PM
Although not 100% sure I believe the clear alternatives is plug and play or they have detailed instructions inside. :dunno_black: but I'd be a little scared that other drivers would comprehend that your turn signal is also your tail light. Also, are they DOT approved?
Mary
Yeah, installation is pretty easy. The tail light portion is indeed plug and play. The indicator portions are just a couple of wires with a resistor.
And I doubt they're DOT approved, but who the hell cares? Pretty sure those flush mounts aren't DOT either. And I'm sure if you were behind a bike with an iterated tail light, and they turned on their blinker, you'd know what's up, even if you've never seen one before.
Quote from: joelmath on September 05, 2011, 05:42:56 PM
And I doubt they're DOT approved, but who the hell cares? Pretty sure those flush mounts aren't DOT either. And I'm sure if you were behind a bike with an iterated tail light, and they turned on their blinker, you'd know what's up, even if you've never seen one before.
Living in Florida they will nail your a$$ FHP loves going to Bike Week and Biketoberfest and pull over folks (esp from other states) that don't have plates in the right spot then once they have you pulled over the fine keeps going up. Those lights aren't DOT your fine keeps climbing, no mirrors keeps going, that little reflector under your plate if no button ones on the plate high. So, a simple stop can cost you thousands. Here is what a plate in the wrong spot will cost you :icon_exclaim:
316.2085(3) Motorcycle or moped license tag improperly affixed
This is classified as a moving violation.
First Offense: the violator must pay $1,000 plus any other costs assessed for a moving violation. Second Offense: the violator must pay a fine of $2,500, plus any other applicable costs assessed for a moving violation. The person's driver license must be revoked for a period of one year.
Third Offense: the violator will be charged with a third degree felony, punishable as provided in ss. 775.082, 775.083, and 775.084, a mandatory fine of $5,000, and the driver license must be revoked for a period of ten years.
So yeah it's important to me because I'm poor. You also put way to much confidence in the cagers that are too busy texting to identify that the turn signal is integrated. I keep it as simple as possible because I have no faith in people on the road. Also, if you would have read my post those flush mounts are in addition to my gixxer (DOT approved) integrated turn signals. So, I have four turn signals in the front.
Mary
thats down right highway robbery... there needs to be limits on traffic fines or atleast fixit tickets for that sort of stuff... Its impossible to know all the rules in every state... This is one of the FEW times i think that the federal government needs to set the rules and everyone else follow them. As far as integrated tails, no they aren't legal... no you probably won't get pulled over unless they are just being a duck. In texas you don't even need turn signals.
Quote from: dsmgs500 on September 04, 2011, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: joelmath on September 04, 2011, 03:32:25 PM
Or get an integrated tail light with the blinkers built in. I've got the Clear Alternatives and I love it. Tail is super clean with no signals.
is there a write up for this?
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=57196.msg647870#msg647870
Here is my thread, though it doesn't have a really detailed write up, I do have some pics and if you have any questions, you can just send me a PM.
Integrated tailight w/ uber-fenderectomy.
**note, while the integrated tailight is nice and clean, I am still considering adding some buell stalks to the back. Im a bit weary that my integrated tailight isn't noticeable enough.
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on September 06, 2011, 06:59:56 PM
Living in Florida they will nail your a$$ ... blah blah blah...
Mary
LOL. Thanks, Mom.
That's a bit hyperbolic and paranoid, don't ya think? :cookoo: Hey, if that's how you wanna live your life, go right ahead. I'm just sayin' it's no big deal. There's TONS of non-DOT approved stuff for sale out there, and there's a reason for it. And I hate to tell ya, but just because something's got a DOT stamp on it, doesn't mean it's actually DOT approved. But once again, I say, who the hell cares? I seriously doubt anyone's ever gotten a $1000 fine for having aftermarket turn signals. Plus if you're such a stickler for the rules, then why did you do a fenderectomy? That is CERTAINLY not Kosher with the DOT.
No it is not at all hyperbolic they will do just that Central Florida is not a motorcycle friendly area. Why don't you google and see just how many stories of guys in Florida getting their A$$ nailed to the wall. Probably because we've had way too many idiots that ride wheelies (BTW $1,000 fine first offence 3rd time $10,000 and no license for ten years). As I can see with the blah blah blah you are young and semmingly have money to burn go ahead and do whatever you want you're a big boy. I just want people to know what they can face when they don't follow the law in the state of Florida.
As far as the fenderectomy I am within the rules. There is no law on how long the fender has to be. I also bought it that way from the dealer used. By law they have to sell bikes within those parameters or you have to sign a waiver. If you get in a wreck and they are determined that your reflector was missing and the reason for the accident they could get sued. About a month after I bought my bike I got a registered letter from Suzuki saying my reflectors weren't in DOT spec to not ride the bike until this was corrected. So, apparently someone had successfully sued a company about reflectors not being in spec or else that wouldn't have been a registered letter.
I don't have money to blow so I stay in spec if you don't give them a reason to pull you over then you tend to not get pulled over. I like it like that. Although, I've been pulled over because "there was a rash of stolen bikes". In fact they were pulling over bikes on bike night to see what they could fish up. Got a friendly reminder that LEDs were not in spec but because I already had two DOT signals in the front I was okay. The LEDS came off and I went back to incandescent along with some other reasons.
Of course you don't believe me because you don't live here. You would think me quoting what the law is would suffice but until they pull you over and give you a $1500 enema nothing will change your mind. Your money your prerogative. :dunno_black:
Come on down to Bike Week we need the extra revenue!
LOL
There are state and DOT requirements for turn signals. Some older manufactured bikes are grandfathered in.
basically, turn signals are:
Same height above road
9 inches apart
None of the fully integrated ones are DOT approved.
There are other laws on the books - like license plates must be horizontal and illuminated & visible.
Check DOT, HSTA and your state laws. Do whatever you want. Just don't cry when you get a ticket for illegal or non-standard equipment.
Also remember - a BIG part of you staying alive is other drivers seeing you. Make your bike cute - hide the lights, be cool and no one will see you. BAM! you get hit.
There is a difference between a track bike, a show bike and a street legal bike.
Quote from: adidasguy on September 07, 2011, 10:03:59 PM
...Do whatever you want. Just don't cry when you get a ticket for illegal or non-standard equipment...
Thank you. I totally agree with that.
And yes, there are some very silly laws out there. For instance, in FL, nnmarried couples may not commit "lewd acts" and live together in the same residence. If an elephant is left tied to a parking meter, the parking fee has to be paid just as it would for a vehicle. It is illegal to sing in a public place while attired in a swimsuit.
However, if you're trying to imply that an integrated tail light is more dangerous than flush mount or stock turn signals, I would have to disagree. In fact, the lighted portion of my "blinker" is bigger and brighter than other turn signals. To say they are dangerous is just ridiculous.
Quote from: joelmath on September 07, 2011, 10:40:10 PM
However, if you're trying to imply that an integrated tail light is more dangerous than flush mount or stock turn signals, I would have to disagree. In fact, the lighted portion of my "blinker" is bigger and brighter than other turn signals. To say they are dangerous is just ridiculous.
Not looking to get in a pissing match here but my buddy's totaled ZX-6R at our workshop would disagree. The woman that rear ended him while he was trying to make a left said "He never used a turn signal but his tail light was blinking"!?!? She was obviously a dumb ass and may have hit him even with stock turn signals but just remember that there are probably lots of other dumbasses just like her on the road who don't understand integrated taillights! Be safe guys :thumb:
-Jessie