Hey All,
i have some rust spots im tryin to clear up on a GS i bought. what would be the best way of gettin rid of it and then protecting the metal from future rust.
repainting or whatever. thanks for your help :icon_mrgreen:
Sorry the pic is so big. i cant figure out how to get it smaller...you may have to scroll over to see the whole pic...my bad. the rust is up behind the front forks. thanks again:)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/jakethenewyooper/2011-09-08_17-02-37_432.jpg)
Well, you can do what I plan to do this winter to correct my small rust issues. Disassemble the entire bike, get the frame sandblasted and powdercoated and reassemble.
Or the "lazy" way would be to sand the offending areas and paint with a primer and repaint.
Quote from: jacob_ns on September 08, 2011, 05:50:18 PM
Well, you can do what I plan to do this winter to correct my small rust issues. Disassemble the entire bike, get the frame sandblasted and powdercoated and reassemble.
that sounds like a good idea. i dont know how to disassemble the bike, but im defiantly willing to learn! :icon_mrgreen:
i hope someone would be willin to go through it with me this winter. that would be awesome
Quote from: holyfighter117 on September 08, 2011, 06:19:41 PM
Quote from: jacob_ns on September 08, 2011, 05:50:18 PM
Well, you can do what I plan to do this winter to correct my small rust issues. Disassemble the entire bike, get the frame sandblasted and powdercoated and reassemble.
that sounds like a good idea. i dont know how to disassemble the bike, but im defiantly willing to learn! :icon_mrgreen:
I've never done it but it can't be that hard. Haynes manual and proper tools and workspace is all that's required.
ill call my dad and tell him im stealing his garage for the winter! he can park his harley outside in the snow where it belongs! haha. :icon_mrgreen:
on a different note, i downloaded a manual for it online, but i may just buy a hardcopy so i can have it with me in the garage. where do you get the stuff sandblasted and such?
Any shop that deals in restoration should have the equipment. Strip the bike, sand the frame and bring it to them.
or i could just print it off my comp...that would be alot cheaper....*duh*
Quote from: jacob_ns on September 08, 2011, 06:54:02 PM
Any shop that deals in restoration should have the equipment. Strip the bike, sand the frame and bring it to them.
would like a body shop do this kind of work? there is a classic car body shop place here in town.
i see my pic is now the size of a thumbnail...stupid thing. ill figure it out eventually. lol
Not all restoration/body shops do powder coat work in house, some sub it out to specialists. You'd have to call around to see. Also get some quotes, powder coating can get expensive (about $500 in this area for frame and swing arm). I prefer to let the powder coater sand blast the frame. You will have to remove all bearings from the frame first (head, swing arm, etc.) which also means you have to replace them all when you get the frame back. And you have to be really careful when you reassemble the bike so you don't scrape the powder coating. It's best to deal with a shop that knows motorcycles, especially if you are coating moving parts like the lower fork legs. If powder coat gets into the wrong place it can make reassembly difficult. Also keep in mind that a lot of shops split their fee into set up and spraying/drying. Make sure you get together all the little parts you want coated (kick stand, grap bar, upper triple..) or you will have to pay a second set up fee if you want to have them coated later. And the best tip I can give you is to take lots of digital pictures as you tear down the bike and bag and tag all the nuts and bolts. My 2 cents...
-Jessie
Adfalchius' GS we powder coated last year. Notice we forgot the upper triple :oops:
(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww360/jessiedoran/alizarright2.jpg)
wow, thanks for that. its very helpful. not exactly the cheapest thing, but if i start putting away for it now i might have enough to do it later in the year. also, taking pics of the disassembly is an awesome idea. i never woulda thought of that. thanks for your 2 cents :icon_mrgreen:
We'll be doing complete cleaning and painting of a couple frames for out West Seattle projects.
Whether you powder coat or paint, there is the problem of rust penetrating into hairline cracks. That has to be stopped. Fortunately, Eastwood has rust converters that penetrate and deposit a zinc oxide and other chemicals that encapsulate rust to stop it dead in its tracks.
We're not sure which is best yet, so we will call their hotline for advice. So whether you paint or powdercoat, you should work to eliminate and encapsulate rust so it doesn't come back.
I know a lot of Jeep guys use a POR15 dip for their frames to stop rust. Not sure how that'd work on a bike chassis.
Quote from: jacob_ns on September 08, 2011, 09:54:57 PM
I know a lot of Jeep guys use a POR15 dip for their frames to stop rust. Not sure how that'd work on a bike chassis.
i googled that stuff. ive never heard of it before. it looks like something you could just paint on. it would be a cheaper route than the sand blasting, but not nearly as pretty.
Quote from: adidasguy on September 08, 2011, 09:33:29 PM
Eastwood has rust converters that penetrate and deposit a zinc oxide and other chemicals that encapsulate rust to stop it dead in its tracks.
I've used many Eastwood products over the years and most of it is high quality stuff. I was not satisfied with their "Rust Encapsulator" product if that is the one you are referring to. I tried that on my last Camaro project's subframe along with a top coat of their Chasis Black. The subframe was in decent shape with some surface rust. I prepped as specified but the rust returned in about a year. I will go back to using POR 15 in the future.
-Jessie
Eastwood has a number of different rust products. I was not promoting any one specific product as each has its own purpose.
There can be a number of reasons for rust returning. As said, I will call their hotline before deciding which product to use on the bike frames.
The por15 looks like a decent product. The reviews I have found have been poitive anyway. I may try it on some spots. Just until this winter when I can hopefully get it sandblasted and such.
It's pretty heavy duty which is how I was introduced to it when I had my old Jeep. Guys with trail Jeeps do their frame, underbody and inside of the tub with it to stop the dreaded Jeep-killer: rust.
It'll put up with a lot of abuse too.