Hey what other bikes besides the GS come with a center stand stock? Its a feature I kind of consider a must have now.
Ninja 250, Ninja 500, Bandit 600, F650 for a few. My SV650 does not and I miss it sometimes.
Quote from: HardcoreKeith on September 13, 2011, 05:19:32 PM
Ninja 250, Ninja 500, Bandit 600, F650 for a few. My SV650 does not and I miss it sometimes.
Current Ninja 250's (08 up),
do not have center stands, but GSX650F's do :thumb:
I just sold a GSX650F to a friend - no center stand.
Quote from: rkjjeep on September 13, 2011, 05:54:59 PM
I just sold a GSX650F to a friend - no center stand.
You are correct, I just had a major BrainFart...
DERP...I added the CS to my GSX650F!!
The GSX650F has an accessory factory centerstand available so some will have it and some not. Also available for the 650 and 1000 V-Stroms. Check the accessory section at the Suzuki site, may be others.
The last Nighthawk 750 bikes also offered it at extra cost. SW-Motec makes a lot of aftermarket centerstands for bikes, available at TwistedThrottle and elsewhere.
I've never owned a bike without a centerstand and don't want to.
VFR800. Most touring-lite (what is called "sport touring" in US) and touring bikes.
Honda 919s had it as a dealer accessory I think.
FZ6 has one.
V-Stroms of both flavors don't. Two chain cleanings, and I'm shopping for one...
If you have a chain, a center stand is definitely an important buy. It kind of makes sense for some bikes not to for weight and clearance reasons, but I feel like sometimes it's just he manufacturer cheaping out.
Quote from: PachmanP on September 13, 2011, 07:29:41 PM
FZ6 has one.
V-Stroms of both flavors don't. Two chain cleanings, and I'm shopping for one...
If you have a chain, a center stand is definitely an important buy. It kind of makes sense for some bikes not to for weight and clearance reasons, but I feel like sometimes it's just he manufacturer cheaping out.
If the wee-strom is like the SV650 there is an aftermarket center stand kit available but it is rather complex relatively to install. You may want to consider investing in a set of race stands for servicing. Pit Bull are decent for the price. And consider spending more on a front stand that lifts by the steering stem. My original front stands lifted by the bottom of the forks but it wouldn't work with the R6 because the forks are different lengths. It also doesn't help when you need to do fork seals ;)
As for the original topic: my old Shadow 500 has a center stand, can't remember if the Ascot has one. Everything else I've did not have one that I recall.
-Jessie
-Jessie
Like I mentioned above, Suzuki has centerstands for both the 650 and 1000 V-Stroms:
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/cycles/Products/V-Strom%20650/2009/DL650/Accessories/General/42100-27821.aspx?Style=&CategoryId=5
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/cycles/Products/V-Strom%201000/2009/DL1000/Accessories/General/42100-06851.aspx?Style=&CategoryId=4
Should bolt right on. Also SW-Motec has them too for the Stroms, the Suzi ones are a bit pricey:
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/310/203/
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/177/108/
Older honda's do for sure (CB/CL/CM/etc.)
My SV doesn't and my VTX doesn't - really only bothers me on the SV so I got a swingarm stand to do chain maintenance...........ALMOST as good as having a center stand.
Apparently Goldwings have a center stand. How you get that beast on there is beyond me :icon_eek:
Wings....It's all in the technique... Firm grip...slight roll back and step on the foot "pedal" and it'll go up.
Centerstands..
My ZX11 has one...my VX800 does too...the Seca 2 had one as an option... My gs850G has one... The hawk 650gt didn't if I recall (if it did it was gone on the one I had..).
Saw that the FZ8 has a factory option center stand. Have my eye on that bike...might be trading up to one in a year or so. GS still doin' it's thing though, and saving me boatloads on gas in the process. :thumb:
Stand just makes sense to me. Makes basic maintenance and gas filling that much easier.
Several of my bikes have had one, but I typically prefer a proper rear-stand for general maintenance.
Unfotunetely, centerstands seem to have gone the way of backup kickstarters. Almost extinct. The only new motorcycles I know of that come with centerstands are the Royal Enfield Bullets. The Ninja 500s had them, but that bike has been dropped now (also the older 250 Ninjas). In fact, the Royal Enfield that I had (a 2007) came stock with a centerstand, but no sidestand. That was fine with me, as it's easy to get along with no sidestand.
Even a behemoth like a full dressed Gold Wing can be put on the centerstand. One has to understand it's not a muscle job--it's all in the technique. Use of the right foot properly is the key.
jon
Quote from: Birdmove on September 15, 2011, 12:57:12 PM
Unfotunetely, centerstands seem to have gone the way of backup kickstarters. Almost extinct. The only new motorcycles I know of that come with centerstands are the Royal Enfield Bullets.
And the GS500 :icon_mrgreen:
I think it's a profit thing. Take the Kwaka Z750 for example. At 6,000 units per year in Europe, if a centre stand has a manufacturer's cost of $100, to put it on those units would cost $600,000 - but - having it would Not generate increased sales to offset that cost. So... bean counters say, "get rid of it" and it is gone.
Michael
Quote from: burning1 on September 15, 2011, 12:48:56 PM
Several of my bikes have had one, but I typically prefer a proper rear-stand for general maintenance.
I would consider a rear stand
proper if it did three more things other than lift the rear tire off the ground...
(1) stayed with the bike like a center stand
(2) was also useful to help remove the front tire like a center stand...yes I have been able to remove a front tire in the field with the help of a center stand
(3) wasn't a trip hazard as you worked around the bike in tight quarters
Having used both I would say the
proper place for a race stand is at the track :thumb:
I have a rear stand. Now my bikes have center stands I never use it. I find it far more user friendly to have a center stand. Now the rear stand is a something I have "just in case" I have a need to not use the center stand. I find the rear stand more cumbersome to use as well. I am not riding in races so do not need the benefits of weight reduction by not having a center stand.
Michael
A pair of jackstands work well in a pinch on the side of the road. Especially with the GS. Though it can take an extra pair of hands to get the GS up with a full tank of gas.
Quote from: burning1 on September 15, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Though it can take an extra pair of hands to get the GS up...
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!...sorry...I had to...
Also, some Triumphs have center stands as well. Looking to upgrade to a Sprint St hopefully next year after getting the family car paid off. But keeping the GS. Having owned it past when most people upgrade to a bigger bike, and after putting on 25,000 miles when it had 5,000 when I got the bike 4 years ago, seems logical to keep for commuting and maybe get the wife riding eventually...
Sean
how do you fill a gas tank to a respectable level without a center stand?
Quote from: crzydood17 on September 16, 2011, 01:19:38 PM
how do you fill a gas tank to a respectable level without a center stand?
Fill it while sitting on the bike. You can do the whole thing without even putting the sidestand down, if you're careful.
I think most of the BMW Dualsport/Adventure tourer models have center stands still.
Quote from: ivany on September 16, 2011, 02:50:59 PM
Fill it while sitting on the bike. You can do the whole thing without even putting the sidestand down, if you're careful.
Filling a bike while sitting on it is not a very safe practice, granted that mathematically the odds are pretty slim but, the common consensus is that its harder to get away from a flaming bike if your straddling it :nono:
Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on September 16, 2011, 03:32:10 PM
Quote from: ivany on September 16, 2011, 02:50:59 PM
Fill it while sitting on the bike. You can do the whole thing without even putting the sidestand down, if you're careful.
Filling a bike while sitting on it is not a very safe practice, granted that mathematically the odds are pretty slim but, the common consensus is that its harder to get away from a flaming bike if your straddling it :nono:
And who wants a crotch full of raw fuel if it overfills?
Quote from: Twisted on September 16, 2011, 04:48:02 PM
Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on September 16, 2011, 03:32:10 PM
Quote from: ivany on September 16, 2011, 02:50:59 PM
Fill it while sitting on the bike. You can do the whole thing without even putting the sidestand down, if you're careful.
Filling a bike while sitting on it is not a very safe practice, granted that mathematically the odds are pretty slim but, the common consensus is that its harder to get away from a flaming bike if your straddling it :nono:
And who wants a crotch full of raw fuel if it overfills?
Nothing tells the attendant "runner" like sitting on a bike fueling it up.
To answer to question, we need to know what you mean by "respectable level". Fill until it starts coming up the neck sleeve. Then SLOWLY fill until nearest doolar or half dollar. You're good to go :thumb:
Michael
Quote from: crzydood17 on September 16, 2011, 01:19:38 PM
how do you fill a gas tank to a respectable level without a center stand?
Put the nozzle in and squeeze till I can see fuel at the neck.
There is no requirement to fill the tank to overflowing. Filling with half a litre (give or take) less than when on the centre stand is no big deal.
cantre stands....
ok for one every bike can have a centre stand of sorts.... paddocks stands
and for the refueling.... oh no i cant fill my tank to the brim so it can drip out the over flow, my mate who has a brand new ZX12R and fills his tank 20mm from the top parks beside the pump stands the bike up straight by resting on his leg/body.
why do people think they need to fill the tank up to the top.... ive filled on my side stands for 25 plus years and on my gs side stand filling still gives me 400 plus k's