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Title: Dave Despain
Post by: 96gs on November 26, 2003, 04:00:36 PM
http://www.myehud.com/dd_nuts.avi

yea remeber this on speed tv the other night???
oh lots and lots of beeps! :guns:   :mrgreen:
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: Ratzo on November 26, 2003, 08:13:01 PM
A classic rant if I ever heard one!
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: john on November 26, 2003, 08:27:02 PM
He can eat my shorts.  And he's a sellout in my mind. :nono:
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: glenn9171 on November 26, 2003, 09:14:13 PM
He talks about what the network gets paid for him to talk about.  If motorcycle companies and accessory manufacturers paid them nearly as mych as NASCAR, they would actually show motorcycles.  As long as Chevy, Ford, Home Depot, and the rest of the big name sponsors pay 90% of SPEED's bills, they will get 90% of the coverage.
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: Ratzo on November 26, 2003, 09:19:42 PM
Hey, the guy was a shill for the AMA, now he's a shill for Speed/Fox/NASCAR.
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: Traveler on November 26, 2003, 10:09:56 PM
Commentators read scripts, as do news anchors, Talk show hosts and actors.
Dave Despain at least voices his own opinion some of the time.
Most of us are shills for those who pay us.
Yup, you too.
Sad, but true. :dunno:
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 26, 2003, 11:56:38 PM
they should just call it "NASCAR TV", funny thing is it been bs for many years. the sc in nascar meant "Stock Car" nothing remotely stock about that, and i cant really find that much to enjoy watching cars going in circles. some people can, for me, i am more into bikes and f1 than anything else. sorry about the mild thread hijacking there :oops:  :dunno:
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: mrslush50 on November 27, 2003, 12:09:28 AM
Quote from: glenn9171He talks about what the network gets paid for him to talk about.  If motorcycle companies and accessory manufacturers paid them nearly as mych as NASCAR, they would actually show motorcycles.  As long as Chevy, Ford, Home Depot, and the rest of the big name sponsors pay 90% of SPEED's bills, they will get 90% of the coverage.

What?  I see way more add's more motorcycles than anything but stupid speed racer on that channel.

and that show's live right?  so did that air without the bleeps?  he could get in trouble for that.  Not that he should, but he could.
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: Turkina on November 27, 2003, 10:31:50 AM
Dave was hired to do a show about all racing in general.  You would think the people whining about him not doing motorcycles would have figured that out by now!  I was surprised about him defending NASCAR.  I remember him having a segment on the bad effects NASCAR has on the racing industry.  Sponsorship money is being taken away from other leagues and put towards NASCAR, which in some way partially responsible for the troubles CART has (other than mismanagement).  The popularity also hinders development of American drivers for the international series.

Between Fox, NBC, TNT, ESPN and Speed, there is more than enough NASCAR to make a single channel for stock car racing.  For god sakes, curling is more exciting than stock car racing... Dave can shut that spewing volcano he calls a mouth.  Millions and millions of people can be wrong!
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: JohnNS on November 27, 2003, 05:42:06 PM
It was a good rant, I'm sure it wasn't spontaneous though, so the editors would've known ahead of time it's coming. I would imagine any "live" broadcast (especially a phone-in one) would also have a slight delay to allow the editors to bleep things if necessary anyway.

As far as Speed showing too much NASCAR goes....I agree that it gets old...and it's even more boring than F1 used to be, but the truth is it's still a HELL of alot better than the motorcycle coverage I used to be able to get here...which was basically none. I'm just happy I actually get to SEE motoGP, SBK, and AMA races instead of only reading about them in magazines.  :thumb:

The biggest thing that annoys me about that whole thing is that they still have to cram NASCAR down everybody's throat on what's supposedly "Two wheel tuesday"   All about the ratings I guess, and motorcycle racing will NEVER get better ratings than NASCAR in North America unfortunately. Just doesn't appeal to that World Wrestling Federation demographic I guess.   :dunno:

John
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: dgyver on November 27, 2003, 06:02:53 PM
NASCAR is an oxymoron. It's popularity comes from its simplicity...Go Fast, Turn Left...what kind of competition is that? The only actually racing is in the pits anyway. I'm glad I don't have cable or satellite anymore.
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: Turkina on November 27, 2003, 06:38:30 PM
Quote from: TurkinaFor god sakes, curling is more exciting than stock car racing...
Can't believe I made a slight against curling and didn't catch flak from the Canadians  :lol: umm... yet
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 27, 2003, 07:34:48 PM
National
Association (of)
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Car
Auto
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like i said, the sc (STOCK CAR). I WOULD ACTUALLY CONSIDER WATCHING IT, IF FOR EVEN 1 RACE, THEY WENT BACK TO THE ROOTS OF IT. go to dealer buy car remove all but drivers seat and electronics, install roll cage,. stock cars/stock powerplants, hell throw in a few hondas toy's etc, and it would make it slightly interesting nascar is about as fake as the WWE is. :dunno:
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: glenn9171 on November 27, 2003, 07:55:06 PM
That's whay the WWE and NASCAR share the same fan base.  "Soap operas for the toothless" as we say around here.
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 27, 2003, 08:08:11 PM
i swear, quite a few people around here (and in other locales), swear wrestling is real, i caught hell the other day, i put a dale jr. sticker on my car, with a piece of black tape across it. :mrgreen:
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: mrslush50 on November 27, 2003, 11:28:21 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazukiNational
Association (of)
Stock
Car
Auto
Racing
like i said, the sc (STOCK CAR). I WOULD ACTUALLY CONSIDER WATCHING IT, IF FOR EVEN 1 RACE, THEY WENT BACK TO THE ROOTS OF IT. go to dealer buy car remove all but drivers seat and electronics, install roll cage,. stock cars/stock powerplants, hell throw in a few hondas toy's etc, and it would make it slightly interesting nascar is about as fake as the WWE is. :dunno:

sounds good to me.  I'd watch that.  Even if they still only went in a circle.  the new GTO would clean up in a series like that.



btw, you wanna see real Stock Car racing?  check out V8 Supercars.
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: Rich500 on November 28, 2003, 06:18:01 AM
Im Canadian and I think Curling is for pussies.
Regardless, Dave Despain is cool with me. Dont Buddha Loves You at him, give shaZam! to all those stupid mindless fuckers who watch those archaic monsters turn left for 4 hours each sunday. Those sons of bitches are to blame. I guess it makes sense though: Simple racing for simple people.  :cheers:
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: panik on November 28, 2003, 06:36:38 AM
Quote from: mrslush50
sounds good to me.  I'd watch that.  Even if they still only went in a circle.  the new GTO would clean up in a series like that.

btw, you wanna see real Stock Car racing?  check out V8 Supercars.

If you're refering to the Pontiac GTO, aka the Holden Monaro, check out the results from the Bathurst 24hr race, last weekend.
http://www.bathurst24hr.com/resultsheet2.asp?race_id=513

1st and 2nd  :thumb: check out the cars they beat, Porsche, Lamborghini, Ferrari, WRX...

I'm so glad Nascar doesn't rate, We get alot of Rallying and Motorcycle stuff on TV here in Australia.  :P

(my 1st post, Hi everyone  :) )
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: dgyver on November 28, 2003, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: panikI'm so glad Nascar doesn't rate, We get alot of Rallying and Motorcycle stuff on TV here in Australia.  :P

(my 1st post, Hi everyone  :) )
I'm jealous! Wish we had more rally racing and motorcycle racing like we used to, especially GP bikes. Almost any auto racing is better than NASCRAP.

Welcome aboard!
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 30, 2003, 12:33:00 AM
it would, cars are about the same size, powerplants are, if not close, the are similar, the whole mentality years ago in the beginning, was win on sunday, sell on monday. all nascar is now-a-days is rolling billboards. (turning left most of the time), what would make a race interesting is to run a race, halfway through, stop, turn the cars around, and go in the opposite direction without resetting the cars suspension set-up. forget about curling,  :dunno: i believe canada has nascars spawn/sibling, cascar, whodathunkit? ah well, i guess whatever sells the most is going to be on the tube...mihgt have to go to austrailia, nascar doesnt even rate...... :mrgreen:
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: Gisser on November 30, 2003, 12:51:34 PM
In the USA, motorcycle racing is a benificiary of Nascar since several AMA events are staged at Nascar facilities which m/c racing could never hope to support--including Daytona.  I think it's a weak case to imply that Nascar hurts m/c TV coverage by draining away all the sponsorship dollars when Speed's Two-Wheel Tuesday was a ratings flop.  Sure Nascar's boring.  F1's boring too.  Indy's interesting on occasion but only because the drivers are always on verge of careening into the wall and killing themselves and unlucky spectators on every lap.  But, then, I haven't been able to sit through any of the 250GP races I taped off Speed either.  A repititious procession of faceless Europeans whose names and rankings always escape me.  I certainly wouldn't expect any non-motorcylce enthusiasts to find it interesting.
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: Turkina on November 30, 2003, 01:44:22 PM
Never implied that NASCAR takes away from motorcycle sponsorship.  Dave said something to the effect that the sponsorship money was being monopolized by stock car racing, and making life more than difficult for other auto racing leagues.  Not a word said about motorcycles.  I think the show topic at the moment was about how badly CART was hurting.
Title: Dave Despain
Post by: mrslush50 on November 30, 2003, 03:25:50 PM
Quote from: panik
Quote from: mrslush50
sounds good to me.  I'd watch that.  Even if they still only went in a circle.  the new GTO would clean up in a series like that.

btw, you wanna see real Stock Car racing?  check out V8 Supercars.

If you're refering to the Pontiac GTO, aka the Holden Monaro, check out the results from the Bathurst 24hr race, last weekend.
http://www.bathurst24hr.com/resultsheet2.asp?race_id=513

1st and 2nd  :thumb: check out the cars they beat, Porsche, Lamborghini, Ferrari, WRX...

I'm so glad Nascar doesn't rate, We get alot of Rallying and Motorcycle stuff on TV here in Australia.  :P

(my 1st post, Hi everyone  :) )

my point exactly.  ford and mopar have nothing that can comptete with it