Ok, after seeing how nice my freshly clean frame and stripped to bare metal tank looks together.
I fell in love with the shiny polished look. (looked some up too)
JUST started looking up info to confirm a few things and what all major parts are aluminum on our bikes.
but, the engine is aluminum correct? (just a making 100% sure question)
How would I exactly go about makin that sucker Polished and Very shiny and keeping it that way?
I looked up how to on other parts, but an engine is a Whole nother story!
as I dont know whats safe to put on the engine to Keep it shiny.
I dont want it just ugly bare metal, my butt wants some Shine! haha
and since we dont have an aluminum frame, (*(&@#&@#(@&#(*@# :technical:) I want that motor to be pristine and shiny if there is any way to do so.
thanks
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like for example.
am I just going to leave it at the bare metal and just keep at it as need be after the initial polish to make and keep it shine or what?
I have clear coated polished aluminum wheels to keep them shiny but I don't know how that would hold up to the heat of an engine...
-Jessie
my engine in not in my frame at this time because im striping everything fr repaint and will powder coat it all.
ive thought about it several times on taking the engine apart and blasting it and powder coating it chrome and then a powder coat clear coat
Geez your keen. I had the same dilemma with my bike when I re built it. In the end I just put it all together and rode it and that was 4 months ago and I haven't looked back.
I spray mine down with WD-40
Wd40 is ok if you are not riding but I know for a fact it attracts dust like a mofo
Google around for "vapor blasting". It takes aluminum down to a nice polished-looking finish.
As far as keeping it clean, don't bother putting anything over it. On a polished surface, dust blows right off and any oily surfaces wipe off with a rag.
Quote from: aussiegs on November 11, 2011, 12:06:47 AM
Geez your keen. I had the same dilemma with my bike when I re built it. In the end I just put it all together and rode it and that was 4 months ago and I haven't looked back.
If mine didnt look like a dirty, owned by a 5 yr old (PO), pos when up close. then i might have haha
but yea, 90% chance I will be polishing and shining the hell out of the engine now.
my apologies for asking when a simple google search would have given me the results I needed.
I've just had TOO many ideas floating in my head that I sometimes miss the obvious.
Just google searched for clear coat high temp paint.
Found they make exactly that (duh! me) for temps up to 1200F specifically for engines.
So now I assume once I get it to a heck of a shine, I can clear coat it with that type of paint and be good to go?
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ty, replied while i typed.
Will look that up now
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yea, nice option but honestly dont think I wanna tear down the engine fully to get that done.
I would end up messing something up.
and I did go over a lil area where the Suzuki emblem is on the crankcase cover with a 600 sandpaper and the paint came off quite easily and the metal looked good enough where I can just do it all by hand and still get a really good finish.
will def. consider it tho, when I get to it.
depends how I feel and the cost
yea, def depends on the cost.
was lookin at some pics from a google search.
http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66416
WOW!
yeah I doubt I can get that type of finish from doing it by hand! haha
searched more pricing.
Doesnt seem expensive at all.
Seriously considering this now!
Just hope I can find something local
I think most F model engines are just plain ol aluminium you may want to look at one of those
Quote from: ghostrider_23 on November 11, 2011, 06:28:22 AM
I spray mine down with WD-40
+1 wd-40 lightly, 20 minutes with a rag and your engine will look great.
if you go the polished route, as in actually polishing every single nook and cranny, you'll be doing it again very soon and very often. aluminum rusts (yes, i said rusts) very quickly when there is tons of heat to aid in the oxidation. you can polish and protect it, but it's going to happen.
can't imagine it being much fun getting around all those fins. ugh.
I have a 04 f model and mine is painted
Quote from: birdhandler on November 11, 2011, 03:18:38 PM
I think most F model engines are just plain ol aluminium you may want to look at one of those
Silver paint as far as I know
-Jessie
Quote from: ohgood on November 11, 2011, 06:06:24 PM
Quote from: ghostrider_23 on November 11, 2011, 06:28:22 AM
I spray mine down with WD-40
if you go the polished route, as in actually polishing every single nook and cranny, you'll be doing it again very soon and very often. aluminum rusts (yes, i said rusts) very quickly when there is tons of heat to aid in the oxidation. you can polish and protect it, but it's going to happens.
can't imagine it being much fun getting around all those fins. ugh.
It is a pain, yes. But if you can strip all the paint off with aircraft stripper, just get between the fins with around 600 grit. Just enough to smooth out the surface. The top surface areas (around the spark plug holes, etc) are the only areas that need polished since the will be the most visible. The hardest area to polish is actually around the starter motor cover- there is a LOT of nooks and crannies around there.
Quote from: ohgood on November 11, 2011, 06:06:24 PM
if you go the polished route, as in actually polishing every single nook and cranny, you'll be doing it again very soon and very often. aluminum rusts (yes, i said rusts) very quickly when there is tons of heat to aid in the oxidation. you can polish and protect it, but it's going to happen.
my wife is taking chemistry and said that rust applies only to iron "red oxides, formed by the reaction of iron and oxygen in the presence of water or air moisture." She said aluminum only corrodes. Just wondering if you had some different information that would correct us.
Thanks
T
Aluminum reacts with oxygen, pretty much like iron does. Corroded aluminum is aluminum oxide. It isn't red, though. Iron oxide=rust Aluminum oxide=???
ohgood wasn't saying it makes red oxides, but that it "rusts". The verb rust=oxidize.
The only pure metal out there that doesn't oxidize or corrode is gold.
Quote from: Paulcet on November 16, 2011, 10:41:31 PM
Aluminum reacts with oxygen, pretty much like iron does. Corroded aluminum is aluminum oxide. It isn't red, though. Iron oxide=rust Aluminum oxide=???
ohgood wasn't saying it makes red oxides, but that it "rusts". The verb rust=oxidize.
Aluminum oxide looks white and powdery, and the impure cast crap the motor is made from will really look liike a hobo vomitted on it ...
Wheels are a bit less sheitty ... so they will look like a baby hobo vomitted on them.
You'll be polishing them every week if you do it.
Frames are made of 1000 times better sheite than these ... and no a GS frame is steel and will rust.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: narftroz on November 16, 2011, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: ohgood on November 11, 2011, 06:06:24 PM
if you go the polished route, as in actually polishing every single nook and cranny, you'll be doing it again very soon and very often. aluminum rusts (yes, i said rusts) very quickly when there is tons of heat to aid in the oxidation. you can polish and protect it, but it's going to happen.
my wife is taking chemistry and said that rust applies only to iron "red oxides, formed by the reaction of iron and oxygen in the presence of water or air moisture." She said aluminum only corrodes. Just wondering if you had some different information that would correct us.
Thanks
T
ask her what corrosion is. ask her what oxides are. (not being a smartass with you nor her) :-)
you can chemically or thermally speed up the process with either ferrous or non. to me, that's rust.
i've seen titanium with what looked like rust/oxide marks on it, but supposedly ti does not.
i see things that aren't supposed to be everyday.
:-)
I will ask her. I was just being correct by definition. rust and corrosion are NOT the same thing. i understand that rust is a type of corrosion but corrosion is not always rust.
"Noun:
A reddish- or yellowish-brown flaky coating of iron oxide that is formed on iron or steel by oxidation, esp. in the presence of moisture." this is from the dictionary, not from me or my wife. look up rust and you will see the difference.
by definition "rust" and "corrosion" are not the same thing. only iron or ferrous metal can "rust". Other metals, and even rubber and polyvinyl "corrode", but what they do is not rust. you can only use the term rust for the definition of the corrosion of ferrous metal, nothing else. there is a difference at a molecular level and an english definition level.