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Title: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on January 05, 2012, 03:19:48 AM
So i was just wondering if anybody here has ever tried putting this (or anything similar to it) on their gs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-Motorcycle-Exhaust-Muffler-Shorty-12-Universal-/170688809902?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item27bdd88bae#ht_2102wt_1163

If so, how does it sound? or any thoughts?

thinking of cheap fixes, because my stock one is dented and scratched up pretty bad.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on January 05, 2012, 03:41:52 AM
PS:

I think this is something similar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOGM7Ey2u7c
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: noiseguy on January 05, 2012, 09:59:15 AM
Unless the can is badly damaged (bent in half, missing) I wouldn't go this route.

Get a can of BBQ paint and respray it. It will look worlds better and the flat paint hides dents. $5 fix.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: adidasguy on January 05, 2012, 10:34:07 AM
Pinwall on ebay usually has nice complete OEM muffler systems for like $89 and $35 shipping. I got one for Phenix - hardly a scratch on it.

Here's one. Search their store for more GS500 parts.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/04-Suzuki-GS500F-GS500-500-EXHAUST-MUFFLER-SYSTEM-/190607400380?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2c61161dbc
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Flux Maven on January 05, 2012, 11:04:48 AM
I was thinking about getting one of those universal mufflers. I wanted something to make it sound less like a lawn mower, but I didn't want to buy one and have it sound like crap... xunedeinx has debaffled HD sportster exhaust that sounds pretty good, you can pick up stock HD pipes pretty cheap... I ended up with a carbon fiber D&D slip on from a cbr or something. I still need to have a muffler shop make a custom mid pipe for it though.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on January 05, 2012, 01:51:48 PM
Thanks for the reply guys, i was just looking for a cheap fix and was weighing my options.

i have thought about sanding the whole chrome plate and painting it to help hide the imperfections.

The shorty pipe was so tempting tho, $26+shippping...!
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: J_Walker on January 05, 2012, 11:20:20 PM
Actually no this is what is in the post. Close tho!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQi-XCctrbc&feature=related

Exactly the same pipes. I was looking to get them to have sorta retro sound. Kinda like the old school twins! :)
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on January 06, 2012, 01:26:57 AM
How do u guys think it sounds?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtVcmqm6z7s&list=UUh28ETK2vzsyCRv_kpCgF4g&index=1&feature=plcp

(thanks J_Walker for finding that)

also, would i need two pipes just like in this video?
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: J_Walker on January 06, 2012, 01:41:18 AM
One should work... Idk tho. Gotta ask Buddha about the jetting and whatnot.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Twisted on January 06, 2012, 03:26:26 AM
Quote from: J_Walker on January 05, 2012, 11:20:20 PM
Actually no this is what is in the post. Close tho!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQi-XCctrbc&feature=related

Exactly the same pipes. I was looking to get them to have sorta retro sound. Kinda like the old school twins! :)

Erm...I hope both you crazy cats realize the GS650 is a four? Your GS won't sound anything like this. And even with the twin pipes it won't sound like an old twin (such as a Triumph or Norton) as they have different cranks (360 vs 180 irc) which totally changes the exhaust note.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: noiseguy on January 06, 2012, 06:29:02 AM
Quote from: redge on January 05, 2012, 01:51:48 PM
Thanks for the reply guys, i was just looking for a cheap fix and was weighing my options.

i have thought about sanding the whole chrome plate and painting it to help hide the imperfections.

The shorty pipe was so tempting tho, $26+shippping...!

I'd be interested to see how the chrome on that $26 pipe holds up to rust and corrosion. I'm betting not well at all.

My bike's been missing the chrome overlay since I got it. If just the chrome is damaged / an eyesore, consider removing it and just leaving the black pipe underneath. Or, buy a used stock unit on Ebay.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: cbrfxr67 on January 06, 2012, 09:18:11 AM
Trying to figure out an exhaust myself.  This looks something like I was hoping for.  Hmmmmmmmmmm,....(edit) Went ahead and got one coming, will spray some high heat black over that chrome.  If it doesn't work I'll hang it on the wall next to my gs exhaust for more decoration.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Twisted on January 06, 2012, 08:45:49 PM
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on January 06, 2012, 09:18:11 AM
Trying to figure out an exhaust myself.  This looks something like I was hoping for.  Hmmmmmmmmmm,....(edit) Went ahead and got one coming, will spray some high heat black over that chrome.  If it doesn't work I'll hang it on the wall next to my gs exhaust for more decoration.

Oooh we have a guinea pig. Let us know how it goes
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Steve146 on January 07, 2012, 07:18:28 AM
I have a pipe from an 06 GSXR 600 on mine.  It's lighter and sounds better.  I did rejet so it runs better also. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nMc-NSFw34g/TwhTeku9fXI/AAAAAAAAAE8/NATGkolG-RI/s800/Side.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CdcktrWCPOY/TwhTe1VnH9I/AAAAAAAAAFE/sUknrdvhktc/s640/rear.jpg)
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Steve146 on January 07, 2012, 09:18:53 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-a-kIHEi9_m0/TwhwHw9gfGI/AAAAAAAAAFc/FBB7fJlGTWc/s800/Side.jpg)
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Funderb on January 07, 2012, 10:42:02 AM
keep an eye out on the interwebs for a real motorcycle muffler, something carbon / titanium,

if you are from a place with a large craiglsist environment finding one can be cheap and easy, i picked up a titanium akrapovic slip on for an R1 for 50 bucks, and then paid a wopping 30 at the muffler shop, and some teamwork with the man, putting it on my gs. The product was a great sounding bike with quite a lot of muffling even for a glass pack muffler. I ended up chopping 4" off the can and it sounds even better.

Just one example in im sure a multitude.

But the main point is: its a bike, its outside, the muffler is both a functional and artistic aspect of the design, and must be looked at, so dont buy cheap materials that cant take the environmental impact of being on a bike. Most of all, spend a lot of time fitting to make it look good.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on January 09, 2012, 12:31:12 AM
QuoteTrying to figure out an exhaust myself.  This looks something like I was hoping for.  Hmmmmmmmmmm,....(edit) Went ahead and got one coming, will spray some high heat black over that chrome.  If it doesn't work I'll hang it on the wall next to my gs exhaust for more decoration.

feel free to let me know how it goes!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: xunedeinx on January 11, 2012, 10:55:30 AM
DO what makes you happy

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/xunedeinx/IMG_0548.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/xunedeinx/IMG_0534.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/xunedeinx/IMG_0526.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inl7sDX_7R4&feature=plcp&context=C3ff2592UDOEgsToPDskItYZjYxFPuzzzwRkQf6bHG

Old video, its throatier now w/ the k&n and rejets.

Ill do a new video if you'd like it.

Its a harley 883/1200 sportster exhaust that I debaffled.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: cbrfxr67 on January 11, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
Xune rocking the picts.  Got mine in today and will see what happens.  Thanks for starting this post Redge!
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: xunedeinx on January 11, 2012, 12:21:51 PM
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on January 11, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
Xune rocking the picts.  Got mine in today and will see what happens.  Thanks for starting this post Redge!

if you ever need a hand, give me a call!

PMing u the number.

-Justin
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: mister on January 11, 2012, 12:37:20 PM
@Xune No mirrors?
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: xunedeinx on January 11, 2012, 12:42:45 PM
Quote from: mister on January 11, 2012, 12:37:20 PM
@Xune No mirrors?

Right now I have the fairings back on, so it has the stock mirrors.But, once I get the 89 clip ons, their comming back off and I'm making a mount for the headlight. In those naked bike pics, I had a bar end mirror on the left side. Will probably have the same bar end mirror when I go back naked until I get a nice set of bar end mirrors that aren't strap on.

I've never rode w/o at least one mirror!
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on January 14, 2012, 11:39:22 PM
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on January 11, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
Xune rocking the picts.  Got mine in today and will see what happens.  Thanks for starting this post Redge!

no prob buddy, thanks for being the guinea pig  :D

post a video after you install if you can, id be interested
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Clancy on January 14, 2012, 11:59:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdZcHScKNNI&feature=plcp&context=C3469ad1UDOEgsToPDskJsQzyPlNZXLmGP13FVWjCE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdZcHScKNNI&feature=plcp&context=C3469ad1UDOEgsToPDskJsQzyPlNZXLmGP13FVWjCE)

I could be biased but i think the old Ixil shorty sounds good...
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: ben2go on January 15, 2012, 02:30:25 PM
My Hayabusa D&D muffler.Lighter and louder.I'm going to repack it and polish it this spring.

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/Motorcycle%20Stuff/1989%20GS500%20Build/0626081654a.jpg)

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/Motorcycle%20Stuff/1989%20GS500%20Build/0626081656.jpg)
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Dr.McNinja on January 15, 2012, 06:06:41 PM
I have a Yoshimura TRS exhaust debaffled. Sounds pretty good for being a 500cc twin. Bonus that it shaved off enough weight to be noticeable when compared to the lead-lined solid-block-milled cheapo OEM exhaust that ships with it. Remember too, the GS500F has a cat installed and you'll have to chop it out to get it to sound better. It sounds muffled even without the baffle in if you still have the cat installed.

https://www.yoshimura-rd.com/ps-3260-1153-trs-stainlessstainless-slip-on.aspx

I picked mine up for 250 on amazon. Worth every penny.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: cbrfxr67 on January 16, 2012, 07:55:31 AM
Yesterday I got the one Redge had posted onto the bike.  Cranked it up and it sounds okay.  Better than open header anyway.  I left the baffle in.  I'll get a clip on as soon as I get my fuel delivery issue fixed.  Always something,....
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Funderb on January 16, 2012, 10:15:17 AM
^^^^ videeoooooooo
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: cbrfxr67 on January 27, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
http://youtu.be/prCVg7itdpc

Finally got a quick video this evening.  I really needed to run the bike since I haven't started it in too long.  My opinion is that it sounds okay.  I'm not a big fan of super loud and it seems much better than the retardedly loud open header. 
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on January 27, 2012, 08:20:16 PM
WOW, just wow. im loving it. I was afraid it will sound too much like HD, but it still got that sporty sound. nice, may pick one up soon ... or two
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on January 27, 2012, 08:25:06 PM
Btw, thanks cbrfxr67! Hope you get ur bike in running shape again soon. Was it as easy as cut and slip on?
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: cbrfxr67 on January 27, 2012, 08:37:43 PM
Super easy.  I just used my heat gun on the header and a dead blow mallet and pounded it on, then stuck a clamp on it.  Still need to do the bracket that was included with it but not in a rush.  For the money I'd say you can't go wrong.  I really liked how small it is.  Inspired by the great Seamax, I wanted something tucked under and small.  Thanks again for posting this redge.  Who know what I would've found otherwise.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: parker on January 27, 2012, 09:23:15 PM
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on January 27, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
http://youtu.be/prCVg7itdpc

Finally got a quick video this evening.  I really needed to run the bike since I haven't started it in too long.  My opinion is that it sounds okay.  I'm not a big fan of super loud and it seems much better than the retardedly loud open header.
I like the sound, not a big fan out how it's placed under the bike but hey everyone has their own opinions.

Really tempted to get one now :)
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: shonole on January 27, 2012, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: parker on January 27, 2012, 09:23:15 PM
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on January 27, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
http://youtu.be/prCVg7itdpc

Finally got a quick video this evening.  I really needed to run the bike since I haven't started it in too long.  My opinion is that it sounds okay.  I'm not a big fan of super loud and it seems much better than the retardedly loud open header.
I like the sound, not a big fan out how it's placed under the bike but hey everyone has their own opinions.

Really tempted to get one now :)

Sounds good.  I'll reserve judgement until I hear it on one of our bikes first.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Funderb on January 27, 2012, 10:22:28 PM
Very nice. Better than expected. I'm only pissing in the wind here, but maybe bend the pipe in just a tad, (if you have a bender) a little closer to the wheel. Just in case you have a blonde moment and step on it, in turn shearing off the manifold bolts. unless you welded on a new support for the exhaust?
I don't know,
but it sounds surprisingly good.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: xunedeinx on January 28, 2012, 12:12:14 AM
I want an I4 GS so bad...

Does the renntec crash bars add Frame? rigidity?

I really want to stuff an I4 in my bike once I get my garage.

Being I love how it looks, I'd wind up just getting emulators fo rmy stock forks. I love my euro clipons!

Also would construct a tube rear subframe for just the stock bare seat. I love how it looks on the ducs, And I want to keep myself open to stock seats in-case I ever go down. Plus the fat passenger seat is great for 2-up.

How about shoehorning one of these between the frame?

(//)

Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: Dr.McNinja on January 28, 2012, 02:28:16 PM
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on January 27, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
http://youtu.be/prCVg7itdpc

Finally got a quick video this evening.  I really needed to run the bike since I haven't started it in too long.  My opinion is that it sounds okay.  I'm not a big fan of super loud and it seems much better than the retardedly loud open header.


This is one of those 25 dollar cans right? I'd like to see the numbers, jetting, and backpressure on one of these. It can't be good for your bike. I guess people will pinch a penny where ever they can though...
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on January 28, 2012, 03:50:29 PM
Yea come to think of it, will re-jetting be necessary?
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on February 10, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
I know this is an old post but i was wondering what you guys think bout this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-MOTORCYCLE-STREET-DIRT-BIKE-BLK-RACING-EXHAUST-MUFFLER-PIPE-SLIP-/200711871642?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2ebb5c1c9a#ht_5418wt_1396
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: codajastal on February 10, 2012, 12:28:55 AM
Quote from: redge on February 10, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
I know this is an old post but i was wondering what you guys think bout this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-MOTORCYCLE-STREET-DIRT-BIKE-BLK-RACING-EXHAUST-MUFFLER-PIPE-SLIP-/200711871642?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2ebb5c1c9a#ht_5418wt_1396

Dunno bout the muffler but I liked the pic they used.


(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/4/7/4/2/8/webimg/410425933_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on February 10, 2012, 01:07:58 AM

Dunno bout the muffler but I liked the pic they used.

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Yes sir, that alone made me want to buy it  :cheers:
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: adidasguy on February 10, 2012, 01:25:26 AM
tea, if I had a 125cc - maybe. Didn't anyone read the specs? Up to a 125cc scooter. I think the GS500 is a little bigger - more like 498cc's.
How would you connect 4 of them to a GS500?
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on February 10, 2012, 01:28:52 AM
hmm i see, i did not realize exhausts have cc limits. I guess i just assumed they were all the same, haha i have much to learn
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: redge on February 10, 2012, 01:55:14 AM
more questions! would a M4 SLIP-ON for HONDA 600RR somehow work for the gs?
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: ohgood on February 10, 2012, 05:55:59 AM
Quote from: redge on February 10, 2012, 01:55:14 AM
more questions! would a M4 SLIP-ON for HONDA 600RR somehow work for the gs?

"somehow" - yes.
"bolt on" - no.

why this has gone three pages when the gs has been made and modified for 20+ years is beyond me.

it is a pipe. like what a stove usees, to dump spent (and some unspent) gasses to the atmosphere.

titanium, carbon, helium, unobtainium - whatever, it will not improve the handling or fun of the gs more than %2. dyno numbers ? pushta- they mean nothing. sound ? wear earplugs ! earplugs make a lawnmower sound badass.

now then, lets ride already  :D
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: ben2go on February 10, 2012, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: redge on February 10, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
I know this is an old post but i was wondering what you guys think bout this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-MOTORCYCLE-STREET-DIRT-BIKE-BLK-RACING-EXHAUST-MUFFLER-PIPE-SLIP-/200711871642?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2ebb5c1c9a#ht_5418wt_1396

It is to restrictive.I think the pipe size is like .75 or 1 inch.IIRC,GS is 2.25.I don't have a GS one sitting near me or I'd measure it.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: ben2go on February 10, 2012, 05:54:43 PM
I was wrong.My 96 header is 1.75.It's my Hayabusa D&D exhaust on my black 89 GS that 2.25.
Title: Re: Mufflers?
Post by: lanesplitter on February 10, 2012, 06:33:41 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c_k-_hNd56Y/Tm08Wq4_lUI/AAAAAAAALe8/UCeaNZq7Z2k/s400/DSC_0338.JPG)

I know it's considered ghetto, but an old fashioned glass pack works well.  Heck, most after market motorcycle mufflers are nothing more than glorified glass packs anyway.  $35 for the muffler and $35 to have the new mid-pipe bent and welded and I was good to go.  I did bring it home and smooth out the welds before spraying it with flame proof paint.   The hanger is a 2 7\8" offset chrome muffler hanger for a Harley Davidson.  I should have gotten a 3".  It's not obnoxious under normal operations but definitely roars when you get on it.  Folks in the neighborhood do look but they don't give me the evil eye when I ride by.  The guy in the neighborhood with the Harley - well that's another story.