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Title: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: J_Walker on January 28, 2012, 10:54:55 PM
I don't understand this, when my bike was running everyone would slow down, and other bikers would pull up next to me and stare at my chest trying to figure out if I was a female or not, now some might ask how do I know, 3 cars in the last 4 months ive been riding a motorcycle, Ive been honked at and yelled vulgar things. Directed at females ofc, but I wear jeans/combat boots a 4 season jacket and a helmet, how does this make me look like a female?! now I do have to say, im not the "biggest" rider out there.. only weighing in around 120lbs and being 5'7" I'm not the biggest guy in the world.. but still! If what I wear looks like female wear, than im a really skinny butch women!

Look down the page for the pickup problem
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: Funderb on January 28, 2012, 10:57:03 PM
Maybe its the butterfly tramp stamp?
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: J_Walker on January 28, 2012, 10:59:53 PM
Quote from: Funderb on January 28, 2012, 10:57:03 PM
Maybe its the butterfly tramp stamp?

Can't be.. I got that covered up, its a flower now.
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: Dizzledan on January 28, 2012, 11:07:53 PM
What does this have to do with GS500 general discussion? Take your feminine problems to Odds and Ends  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: J_Walker on January 28, 2012, 11:11:16 PM
Quote from: Dizzledan on January 28, 2012, 11:07:53 PM
What does this have to do with GS500 general discussion? Take your feminine problems to Odds and Ends  :icon_lol:

Oh it has lots to do with the GS500. :D

Anyone know how to do the cam timing on the GS500f? :D
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: Slack on January 28, 2012, 11:12:20 PM
Always ride with one of those Harley shirts that says, "If you can read this then the Biatch fell off."   O0
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: Funderb on January 28, 2012, 11:13:42 PM
Ah, that will go much better with the hairy chest and the rolled-sleeve wool flannel.


are you running stock exhaust? I think you need an angrier sounding bike.

QuoteAnyone know how to do the cam timing on the GS500f?

here?

http://beergarage.com/GSTiming.aspx
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: J_Walker on January 28, 2012, 11:15:57 PM
Quote from: Funderb on January 28, 2012, 11:13:42 PM
Ah, that will go much better with the hairy chest and the rolled-sleeve wool flannel.


are you running stock exhaust? I think you need an angrier sounding bike.

I am running stock exhaust yes.. also running on 1 cylinder! whoo!  :cheers:

Well I was thinking of painting my bike hot pink, yeah know so when someone starts to hit on me, I can talk to them back and out comes my helmet a manly deep voice, :D

I find it funny, not creepy, I Like women, the girlfriend can prove it ^^ :D
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: Funderb on January 28, 2012, 11:19:02 PM
QuoteI Like women

In response, i point you to 'Bear Claw' Chris Lapp
Quote"But don't get me wrong; I loves the womens, I surely do. But I swear, a woman's breast is the hardest rock that the Almighty ever made on this earth, and I can find no sign on it."
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: J_Walker on January 28, 2012, 11:22:00 PM
Quote from: Funderb on January 28, 2012, 11:19:02 PM
QuoteI Like women

In response, i point you to 'Bear Claw' Chris Lapp
Quote"But don't get me wrong; I loves the womens, I surely do. But I swear, a woman's breast is the hardest rock that the Almighty ever made on this earth, and I can find no sign on it."

LOL! I knew this thread was gonna get funny. Reason why I made it. even tho its true, always good to have a laugh!

BTW that camshaft timing, isn't what mine looks like tho! :0
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: Funderb on January 28, 2012, 11:27:44 PM
The F has a different head? Dang. Seriously? How? I'm confused.
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: J_Walker on January 28, 2012, 11:30:39 PM
Quote from: Funderb on January 28, 2012, 11:27:44 PM
The F has a different head? Dang. Seriously? How? I'm confused.

I'll try to take a picture give me a min or two.. gotta find my camera charger. give me 5 mins or less!
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: J_Walker on January 28, 2012, 11:38:26 PM
Not the best picture in the world, took with a cam corder.. :/ but you can see a lot better than with my 2 mega pixel cell phone camera.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/vesso.jpg)
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: Funderb on January 28, 2012, 11:58:52 PM
Well there's your problem right there. Seems ya only got one pickup.


haha!


Either way, with just the one, you should be able to accomplish the timing job. Just align the one pickup to TDC and follow the dye-rections.

The other nubs are just for lost spark or something? for emissions? Why is your signal rotor so nubby? What the hell.
Title: Re: I get mistaken for a female rider all the time.
Post by: J_Walker on January 29, 2012, 12:12:23 AM
Quote from: Funderb on January 28, 2012, 11:58:52 PM
Well there's your problem right there. Seems ya only got one pickup.


haha!


Either way, with just the one, you should be able to accomplish the timing job. Just align the one pickup to TDC and follow the dye-rections.

The other nubs are just for lost spark or something? for emissions? Why is your signal rotor so nubby? What the hell.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION! lol!

btw I have no idea what your talking about, this whole pickup thing is very confusing...
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: Funderb on January 29, 2012, 12:18:02 AM
well, the widest/biggest nub on the rotor is the one that happens before tdc, aka, combustion. In our case, it is the only one that creates work. the other lost sparks are little baby ones, maybe? if they even occur, they are usually meant to burn up leftover stuff. (I could be wrong) So you should just align the forward pickup to the hash
L - T  |
........^ that one, I believe.
Then the Right cyl will be at TDC
and then  do your pin counting.

the beer garage is down for me right now, not sure about you, but if you have the manual, same thing.


I edited a couple times, so recheck^^^
& bt-dubs, i'm off to bed, gotta be up in three hours woo. Get a new pickup and go ride. Do it, its good for the heart.
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:28:45 AM
In the pic you provided, there should be a second piece bolted on that's missing. See where the threaded holes are? It's supposed to be right there.
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: Funderb on January 29, 2012, 12:31:14 AM
what kijona said, you are supposed to have two. How do you not have two? one for each cylinder.
Do you know you need two? I thought you did. Go get another one. kids these days.
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: J_Walker on January 29, 2012, 12:37:25 AM
I didn't take it off! LOL! I took the side cover off, and it wasn't there? Possibly PO screwed me over AGAIN? wouldn't be surprised. Where do I get another one?

and I know its supposed to be right there, but it isnt! Where did it go?! did the engine eat it?! lol!  :technical:
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:40:40 AM
I'd have to look at mine but it seems like there should be another set of wires as well, unless the second one grounds to the outer ring where it's bolted on.

Edit: How much did you pay for this thing anyway? How the bastard even runs without that is an f'ing miracle to me.
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: J_Walker on January 29, 2012, 12:48:56 AM
Quote from: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:40:40 AM
I'd have to look at mine but it seems like there should be another set of wires as well, unless the second one grounds to the outer ring where it's bolted on.

Edit: How much did you pay for this thing anyway? How the bastard even runs without that is an f'ing miracle to me.

did you miss my rant? im sorry. $2,000 Had no idea, still have PO's address too.. :)
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:49:49 AM
Um...maybe we're wrong.

Here's the parts fiche for a 2007 GS500F...which is what I assume you have...an F model?

http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/SIGNAL_GENERATOR_/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/48/Year/2007/ModelID/7551/Model/GS500F/GroupID/357828/Group/SIGNAL_GENERATOR_
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: J_Walker on January 29, 2012, 12:50:44 AM
Quote from: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:49:49 AM
Um...maybe we're wrong.

Here's the parts fiche for a 2007 GS500F...which is what I assume you have...an F model?

http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/SIGNAL_GENERATOR_/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/48/Year/2007/ModelID/7551/Model/GS500F/GroupID/357828/Group/SIGNAL_GENERATOR_

Yeah I do have the F model.. lol? still doesn't explain anything how to set the timing right..
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:52:26 AM
Quote from: J_Walker on January 29, 2012, 12:50:44 AM
Quote from: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:49:49 AM
Um...maybe we're wrong.

Here's the parts fiche for a 2007 GS500F...which is what I assume you have...an F model?

http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/SIGNAL_GENERATOR_/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/48/Year/2007/ModelID/7551/Model/GS500F/GroupID/357828/Group/SIGNAL_GENERATOR_

Yeah I do have the F model.. lol? still doesn't explain anything how to set the timing right..

What leads you to believe it's off? This thread started off as you complaining about being mistaken for a woman. What do you expect?  :dunno_black:

Edit: Did you take the cam shafts apart or something? BaltimoreGS has a video explaining how to properly align the cam shafts on the chain.
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: J_Walker on January 29, 2012, 12:53:43 AM
Quote from: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:52:26 AM
Quote from: J_Walker on January 29, 2012, 12:50:44 AM
Quote from: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:49:49 AM
Um...maybe we're wrong.

Here's the parts fiche for a 2007 GS500F...which is what I assume you have...an F model?

http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/SIGNAL_GENERATOR_/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/48/Year/2007/ModelID/7551/Model/GS500F/GroupID/357828/Group/SIGNAL_GENERATOR_

Yeah I do have the F model.. lol? still doesn't explain anything how to set the timing right..

What leads you to believe it's off? This thread started off as you complaining about being mistaken for a woman. What do you expect?  :dunno_black:

Hahaha, I didn't say it was off. I took the cams out tho. I was told to reset the timing or something in order to put the cams/chain and shaZam! back in so it works correctly?
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:56:00 AM
As I said...you need to watch BaltimoreGS' video.

You also need to buy yourself a shop manual if you haven't already. ALL of this information is available in there.
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: J_Walker on January 29, 2012, 12:57:40 AM
Quote from: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 12:56:00 AM
As I said...you need to watch BaltimoreGS' video.

You also need to buy yourself a shop manual if you haven't already. ALL of this information is available in there.

why buy a shop manual? you've answered my question so far. :D
Durr thats what forums are for. Stupid lazy people like myself!
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: twinrat on January 29, 2012, 12:59:03 AM
dont let these people put you wrong ,that is a late model ignition system one coil only .The first line after RT must line up with the center of the coil then your cams should be in the right place...THE NOTCH INTHE CAMS MUST FACE INWARDS OR TOWARDS EACH OTHER
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: Kijona on January 29, 2012, 01:01:02 AM
Quote from: twinrat on January 29, 2012, 12:59:03 AM
dont let these people put you wrong ,that is a late model ignition system one coil only .The first line after RT must line up with the center of the coil then your cams should be in the right place...THE NOTCH INTHE CAMS MUST FACE INWARDS OR TOWARDS EACH OTHER

I did correct the mistake. Check my other posts.

Just assumed it had a similar pickup to the older GS...then I checked, and found out I was wrong.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: J_Walker on January 29, 2012, 01:09:13 AM
Quote from: twinrat on January 29, 2012, 12:59:03 AM
dont let these people put you wrong ,that is a late model ignition system one coil only .The first line after RT must line up with the center of the coil then your cams should be in the right place...THE NOTCH INTHE CAMS MUST FACE INWARDS OR TOWARDS EACH OTHER

is it going clock wise or counter clock wise, the first line that is.

Kijona its okay you helped me figure out this jap trap!
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: BaltimoreGS on January 29, 2012, 09:06:03 AM
I was waiting to see how long before someone figured out why there was a pick up missing   :laugh: :laugh:  Jack had already covered this question 5 days ago when he posted the pic below in a thread on checking valve clearances.

-Jessie

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/gs500signalgenerators.jpg)
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: Funderb on January 29, 2012, 03:50:07 PM
WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT ITS SO CONFUSING!  :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Changed! : Pickup issue..
Post by: J_Walker on January 29, 2012, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: Funderb on January 29, 2012, 03:50:07 PM
WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT ITS SO CONFUSING!  :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Your telling me? Lol!  :dunno_black: I'm new to all this so its uber confusing.. Hopefully all I gotta do is buy shims and Slap this Buddha Loves You back together and It shall run on both cylinders again!