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Title: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Lasse on February 12, 2012, 09:19:29 AM
Herro!

My name is Lasse, I'm 24 and I come from Denmark. I've recently acquired a '95 GS500, with 35kkm on the clock. I'm usually into classics, but I had a restoration project that was going to cost way more than I was willing to put in to it, so I benched and found this GS at a very good price.

First thing I am going to do is a service on it, which means oil and oil-filter change, along with measuring the valveclearences. So while I have so much of the bike torn apart, I figure a KN drop in and a rejet would be in order as well.

On the cosmetic side I'm going with a classic clipon set, mounted below the top yoke, gimbel rearsets, and a small flyscreen.

Come winter, I'd like to do a USD/monoswingarm/CBR400 swingarm mod.

Questions:

Where do I get jets in Europe? Which sites for parts in Europe? Wemoto?

Regards, Lasse

Edit:

Flyscreen:
(http://files.bs-motoparts.eu/images/puig/cockpitverkleidungen/anbau-0869n.jpg)

Clipons:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lenker-Clip-ons-7-8-Zoll-22mm-schwarz-37mm-/110815841335?pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item19cd238c37#ht_500wt_1180

Rearset:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Fussrastenanlage-SUZUKI-GS-500-E-/260738085031?pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item3cb53370a7#ht_2885wt_1163
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Erika on February 12, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
Not sure where you could find jets in Denmark, but here are a few links to other European GS500 forums...

http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Main.Community

-Erika
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: twinrat on February 12, 2012, 11:00:41 PM
just google mikuni carbs and it should show up your local agents in your country or go to a japanese motercycle dealer in your area
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Twisted on February 12, 2012, 11:07:34 PM
Can I make a suggestion? Why not go with the classic looking screen like this one -

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Neue-Gimbel-Lampen-Verkleidung-fur-SUZUKI-GS-500-E-/260795027804?pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item3cb898515c

I have never been a fan of the puig ones but that is just my opinion.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: codajastal on February 13, 2012, 02:13:50 AM
Quote from: Twisted on February 12, 2012, 11:07:34 PM
Can I make a suggestion? Why not go with the classic looking screen like this one -

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Neue-Gimbel-Lampen-Verkleidung-fur-SUZUKI-GS-500-E-/260795027804?pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item3cb898515c

I have never been a fan of the puig ones but that is just my opinion.

Hey Twisted, where can I get the classic screen in Aus? I have looked everywhere but keep coming up with OSeas and the freat is a killer and I am broke.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Twisted on February 13, 2012, 03:08:21 AM
Quote from: codajastal on February 13, 2012, 02:13:50 AM
Quote from: Twisted on February 12, 2012, 11:07:34 PM
Can I make a suggestion? Why not go with the classic looking screen like this one -

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Neue-Gimbel-Lampen-Verkleidung-fur-SUZUKI-GS-500-E-/260795027804?pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item3cb898515c

I have never been a fan of the puig ones but that is just my opinion.



Hey Twisted, where can I get the classic screen in Aus? I have looked everywhere but keep coming up with OSeas and the freat is a killer and I am broke.

Sorry mate overseas is the only place you will find them.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: codajastal on February 13, 2012, 03:14:32 AM
Quote from: Twisted on February 13, 2012, 03:08:21 AM
Quote from: codajastal on February 13, 2012, 02:13:50 AM
Quote from: Twisted on February 12, 2012, 11:07:34 PM
Can I make a suggestion? Why not go with the classic looking screen like this one -

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Neue-Gimbel-Lampen-Verkleidung-fur-SUZUKI-GS-500-E-/260795027804?pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item3cb898515c

I have never been a fan of the puig ones but that is just my opinion.

Bugger :cry:


Hey Twisted, where can I get the classic screen in Aus? I have looked everywhere but keep coming up with OSeas and the freat is a killer and I am broke.

Sorry mate overseas is the only place you will find them.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Lasse on February 14, 2012, 06:38:09 AM
Thanks for the replies, but I am kind of hooked on the Puig one. I've seen  it do nice on other machines.

The "topplate", where the handlebars are mounted, are they interchangeable? Currently I have som aluminium handles bolted to the topplate, but I'd like one that uses regular handlebars, if the clipons don't work for me.

Today I also set about doing the valves. But my thickness gauge is only going down to 0.05, so the other three came up as "tight", but the camfollower was able to move. I'm seeking other gauges, so I can get some correct measurements.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Lasse on February 14, 2012, 09:32:06 AM
A few pics!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UVO959mnb1w/TzqF_bm9N4I/AAAAAAAAGKA/AfnZXtuRc1U/s512/DSC01441.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jGJfBY5aU50/TzqGMKmxU8I/AAAAAAAAGJQ/OfCRG0-KZJo/s720/DSC01445.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0sarXWu8bx8/TzqGMAaBBRI/AAAAAAAAGJY/JQ0eIF56G9k/s720/DSC01446.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bIqegiXGx9k/TzqGXFBHRqI/AAAAAAAAGJo/ggYuIFFynUc/s720/DSC01449.JPG)
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: SS Adrenaline on February 14, 2012, 09:46:30 AM
I am just woundering whats the advantage to having clip on handle bars as opposed to the regular ones?  Also while Im asking this, whats the weight on the ends of the handle bars for.....less vibration?
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Lasse on February 14, 2012, 11:08:11 AM
By having regular handlebars up there, it is easy to change handlebars, to get a new seating position, or if you're going for another look.

The bar-end weights move the vibrations further out, so the majority of the vibrations will be at the ends and not in the my hands.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: twinrat on February 14, 2012, 11:38:42 PM
I have gs clip ons and they have aluminum bar ends and they dont work as stopping vibrations to your hands.i dont know if these came out standard like this. if they do then i would say they are handle bar plugs incase you fall off and land on them , or they are there to stop your hand grips sliding off on a hot day. my origonal bars had steel ones painted.Your brake lever and clutch leaver have balls on the end to stop you getting impaled when you fall off so handle bar ends should do the same.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Twisted on February 16, 2012, 02:46:28 AM
Quote from: Lasse on February 14, 2012, 06:38:09 AM

The "topplate", where the handlebars are mounted, are they interchangeable? Currently I have som aluminium handles bolted to the topplate, but I'd like one that uses regular handlebars, if the clipons don't work for me.


I would stick with the clip ons. They look much better than the GS bars and have a similar positon. Plus the clip ons are pretty sought after so think yourself lucky you have em!
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: codajastal on February 16, 2012, 02:51:50 AM
I have the original ones like you and I love them. I do not get any vibration at all? Maybe change the bar ends?
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Lasse on February 16, 2012, 11:06:24 AM
What is the general consensus of RTV sealants between the valvecover and cylinderhead.

I have a new gasket at hand, so thats not the problem. Do people use both?
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Paulcet on February 16, 2012, 06:25:37 PM
I don't know what the general consensus is... But I'll tell you what I do.  I just use RTV (oil resistant kind) on the half-circle parts and just a few spots around the head to keep it in place while I set the cover in place.  No leaks yet.  Admitting that I only have about 200 miles on it.  Dgyver used it on the bottom (between gasket and head), all the way around.  Started leaking after about the 4th time the cover was removed (about 15k miles).
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: adidasguy on February 16, 2012, 09:41:13 PM
Quote from: twinrat on February 14, 2012, 11:38:42 PM
I have gs clip ons and they have aluminum bar ends and they dont work as stopping vibrations to your hands.i dont know if these came out standard like this. if they do then i would say they are handle bar plugs incase you fall off and land on them , or they are there to stop your hand grips sliding off on a hot day. my origonal bars had steel ones painted.Your brake lever and clutch leaver have balls on the end to stop you getting impaled when you fall off so handle bar ends should do the same.
Aluminum bar ends are just wrong. The OEM bar ends were lead then solid steel. I use the R&G which are chrome steel. Very heavy. No vibration. The bars are important, too. If you changed to aluminum bars, then you don't have the advantage of the OEM heavy steel bars. Plus the OEM's have that steel slug in the end for the bar end screw. That blob of steel in there has a lot of mass.

To the OP, I have the Gimbel rear sets. I LOVE them. I prefer them over Raask.

To the OP: The top plates are interchangeable. 2 bolts hold them to the top triple.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: codajastal on February 16, 2012, 09:54:19 PM
Quote from: adidasguy on February 16, 2012, 09:41:13 PM
Quote from: twinrat on February 14, 2012, 11:38:42 PM
I have gs clip ons and they have aluminum bar ends and they dont work as stopping vibrations to your hands.i dont know if these came out standard like this. if they do then i would say they are handle bar plugs incase you fall off and land on them , or they are there to stop your hand grips sliding off on a hot day. my origonal bars had steel ones painted.Your brake lever and clutch leaver have balls on the end to stop you getting impaled when you fall off so handle bar ends should do the same.
Aluminum bar ends are just wrong. The OEM bar ends were lead then solid steel. I use the R&G which are chrome steel. Very heavy. No vibration. The bars are important, too. If you changed to aluminum bars, then you don't have the advantage of the OEM heavy steel bars. Plus the OEM's have that steel slug in the end for the bar end screw. That blob of steel in there has a lot of mass.


Well now I know why mine give me no trouble because they are original and not futzed with ;)
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: xunedeinx on February 16, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
Yea, I made the mistake of replacing my stock bent bars with AL renthal bars. BUZZZZZZY.

Eventually went down at 5mph on a cold morning cause I wasn't being careful, and replaced them with the beautiful set that adidasguy sent me. I don't have enough thanks to give him.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: twinrat on February 16, 2012, 10:39:39 PM
Thanks Adidas i now know they are not standard ,ill make up some stainless steel ones to the same as the oem bars that should cure the numb hands
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: k.rollin on February 16, 2012, 11:30:44 PM
When I switched to bar end mirrors, my bars shook so much that the mirrors were useless at engine speeds over 4500 RPM. My solution was to fill my bars with BBs, and it's worked so far.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: adidasguy on February 16, 2012, 11:33:06 PM
Quote from: xunedeinx on February 16, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
Yea, I made the mistake of replacing my stock bent bars with AL renthal bars. BUZZZZZZY.

Eventually went down at 5mph on a cold morning cause I wasn't being careful, and replaced them with the beautiful set that adidasguy sent me. I don't have enough thanks to give him.

You're welcome! (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/tiphat.gif)
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: xunedeinx on February 17, 2012, 09:10:42 AM
Quote from: k.rollin on February 16, 2012, 11:30:44 PM
When I switched to bar end mirrors, my bars shook so much that the mirrors were useless at engine speeds over 4500 RPM. My solution was to fill my bars with BBs, and it's worked so far.

Also serves the dual purpose as ammo for when some idiot cager tries to enter your lane.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Lasse on February 17, 2012, 11:21:06 AM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-s6E8iX_O4kU/Tz53L6pYqAI/AAAAAAAAGKM/3alul2xAX9c/s720/DSC01450.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zWp8F3rkWzs/Tz53Y14EUbI/AAAAAAAAGKw/MJ_o7q-QOlE/s720/DSC01455.JPG)

With the proper tools, the rest went fine. Only one shim needed change. Both inlets were at(above) ~0,03mm., one exhaust was 0,05 and the last needed change.

So I'm all good for the next 6000km.

I haven't ridden the bike yet, so I'm holding off on the rejetting, though I have bought a set of 125 and 127,5'es.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: adidasguy on February 17, 2012, 03:31:05 PM
FYI on bars: I weighed a new 89 clip on bar (yes, I found another new old stock bar! Came in today's mail from England) and it comes in a 12.6 oz.
I'm guessing the bar end is about the same or at least 10 oz.
I lot more mass than aluminum bars and those pretty, foofoo aluminum bar ends.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: Erika on February 17, 2012, 07:45:32 PM
I got these bar end weights that are meant for a scooter, but work on the GS500. The heavier ones work fine...

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56002.0
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: xunedeinx on February 17, 2012, 10:32:51 PM
Quote from: adidasguy on February 17, 2012, 03:31:05 PM
FYI on bars: I weighed a new 89 clip on bar (yes, I found another new old stock bar! Came in today's mail from England) and it comes in a 12.6 oz.
I'm guessing the bar end is about the same or at least 10 oz.
I lot more mass than aluminum bars and those pretty, foofoo aluminum bar ends.

Knowing this, should I fill my bars with an extremely dense, fine texture cement?

I wont feel a thing, right?
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: adidasguy on February 17, 2012, 10:47:05 PM
Well, your bars are the right ones. Filling would make them heavier. Not sure what that would do. Do you want them heavier?
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: xunedeinx on February 17, 2012, 10:57:58 PM
Quote from: adidasguy on February 17, 2012, 10:47:05 PM
Well, your bars are the right ones. Filling would make them heavier. Not sure what that would do. Do you want them heavier?

IDK, I get a slight vibration at 8k, dont bother me. But none would be sweet. Ill try bb's first.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: adidasguy on February 17, 2012, 11:38:23 PM
I rarely hit 8k RPM. 7k puts me at 75mph.
BB's are denser that cement powder. You could stuff in old Christmas fruit cake. That's pretty dense.
Maybe some steel rods wrapped in soft rubber/neoprene jammed in the bar.

Be sure you have the 4 small rubber bumpers that go between the top plate and the top of the triple. That helps dampen vibration to the bars.

FYI:  Stock bar end weight is 10.4 oz. Just stopped by my office weighed one as I tried to figure out what we are supposed to photograph since I don't understand Ausie very well.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: k.rollin on February 18, 2012, 12:12:22 AM
By the way, if you do go the BB route, make sure that you don't plan to remove your left side bar end for any reason. When I swapped mirrors, and later, grips, they just pour out. They're kind of annoying.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: adidasguy on February 18, 2012, 12:28:45 AM
BB's won't fall out of the OEM clip ons. There is a steel slug in the end with the threads for the bar end screw. The inner end has a plastic cap. You'd pour them in there and put the cap on.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: k.rollin on February 19, 2012, 01:31:16 AM
Quote from: adidasguy on February 18, 2012, 12:28:45 AM
BB's won't fall out of the OEM clip ons. There is a steel slug in the end with the threads for the bar end screw. The inner end has a plastic cap. You'd pour them in there and put the cap on.

True; I should have qualified that previous statement. They will pour out if you run aftermarket bars or OEM bars that used the expanding rubber sleeve. Good catch.
Title: Re: New guy from Europe + Mod questions.
Post by: bombjack on February 20, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: Lasse on February 12, 2012, 09:19:29 AM
Questions:

Where do I get jets in Europe? Which sites for parts in Europe? Wemoto?


Hi Lasse,

You can get jets in Denmark from http://www.kgi.dk/search.php?ids=1&src=+dyse
Or you can buy them from ebay UK or Germany.