So, I know this dude that has/had a gs500F. I tried to befriend him but wow we are in totally different worlds. A couple of times he almost killed me with our bikes. The first time he asked me to give him a ride down the street to pick up something for his bike. Sure, no problem since he was a rider I assumed (my mistake) he knew the rules of pillion riding. He did not as soon as he got on I should have realized because he didn't wait for me to tell him I was ready for him to get on I was taken by surprise and it irritated me but I proceeded on. We get to a red light he didn't tell me he needed to adjust he stands up on the rear pegs leaning to the right (that's my bad knee ankle) it took everything I had to keep us from going over. I make the left turn from the light. He starts leaning into it like he was a superbike racer! WTF are you doing I asked him. When we got to our destination I went over the rules and told him he pulled anything and he was walking back.
Next time we are out in Daytona riding a nice road I had never been on when we come up on a turn the yellow sign said 30mph and that is where I was as I get closer it is more like a dead man's 15mph turn and I'm coming in hot. Since, there was no other traffic I was just gonna take it wide but I look in my rear view and he was following so close if I would have gone wide I would have taken me and him out! So, I go offroading into the orange grove. I have arthritis in my neck and the bouncing was enough I thought I had whiplash not to mention my right knee was killing me from treating Flick like a dirt bike. We get to dinner and he never even apologizes even though I was in evident pain. Finally, I said something about his following distance and how that could have been both of us down. So what? he said.
So, I told our mutual friend I'm never riding with him again! A couple weeks ago I'm talking with mutual friend because bike week is coming up soon. He said squid friend got a brand new zx-14! :icon_eek: was my thought. Second thought was isn't he 22 and still in school? Oh, yeah my friend said mom and dad bought it for him! This kid doesn't respect the GS and he now has a ninja I expressed my concerns and friend said he seems to have grown up a bit. So, today I see him on the road and decide to test his growth. I pull up at the red light next to him and nod my head he didn't recognize me at first and since he never pays attention as soon as the light changed I took off pretty quickly 1. hope he didn't realize it was me 2. if he did see what his reaction is. Well, I guess he realized and caught up to me and reminded me of who he was. I didn't say anything about the bike because I knew he was dying for me to "oogle" all over it. I saw the UCF decal and asked what campus he said UCF. I said I know that where? Finally, he got the idea and said main. When the light turned this time I took off like I normally do to see how he reacted now that he had someone to show off to. Guess what he does? Yup WOT and starts riding erratically to show me how much better his ninja is over Flick. Then he starts lane splitting.
That solidified my decision I am not riding with him! I bet he has a major accident within the year. My friend did tell me last week he was washing it and when he took it off the center stand didn't realize the kickstand wasn't down and dropped it. But, I was nice and didn't say anything about that well yet! Now to my question gentlemen what makes you guys total boneheads at that age? Can it really be just testosterone?
Mary
"yes".
Well, that, and bad parents.
Obviously, his ones are a bad lot, just by the one decision we are privy to, that they made for him :/
going to say guys and gals on bikes at that age, a majority sadly fit into this category. WITH a few exceptions ;)
It may be because he thinks with his little brain is in his pants
It is true. We can be complete boneheads but the best thing to have is a dad or father figure to tell us to pull our heads in. Seems that is lacking a bit these days. Some guys never grow up.
Lets hope he has a little crash to stop and make him think and not a big one that ends or ruins his life
That's a bit harsh. This guy may be a dumbass, but that doesn't mean everyone in his age group is like him. I'm 22, and I've had a few mistakes with my GS, but I learned from them, and I doubt that I ever exhibited that level of stupidity on a motorcycle.
Quote from: k.rollin on February 17, 2012, 12:12:14 AM
That's a bit harsh. This guy may be a dumbass, but that doesn't mean everyone in his age group is like him. I'm 22, and I've had a few mistakes with my GS, but I learned from them, and I doubt that I ever exhibited that level of stupidity on a motorcycle.
Oh c'mon be honest now hehe ;)
I'm right in the middle if that bracket. I have moments of silliness to twist my wrist a bit further than usual but the fact of I have a young family keeps me sensible. Also I'm a huge fan of my license and all my points. Having losit once I don't want to loose it again.
Quote from: slipperymongoose on February 17, 2012, 02:09:35 AM
I'm right in the middle if that bracket. I have moments of silliness to twist my wrist a bit further than usual but the fact of I have a young family keeps me sensible. Also I'm a huge fan of my license and all my points. Having losit once I don't want to loose it again.
Hey Im in my 40's and I am the same as you there slips. I twist on occasion but I also have a young family to think of.
I have however NEVER lost my license :D
I'm 21 and I've never lost my license.
I've had 2 car accidents with me being the only vehicle involved and I've learned a lot from them.
I've been caught speeding once. Back on my red P's. Again, I learned my lesson.
I've been taken out by a car on my bike and that taught me to have a hell of a lot more awareness of people simply not seeing me.
I'm on my red P's for the bike and I've got 1 point left because I manoeuvred around a parking car by crossing double lines at 5km/h and some @$$hole cop did me for it taking 75% of my license with him.
I'm still not the safest guy on the road but I am getting better and better and learning a hell of a lot of respect for the dangers of being on the road each day.
Recklessness is hard to stop sometimes. I won't deny that. It's easy to forget how risky it all is on occasion
Some of you guys aren't helping your case LOL!
This guy makes these decisions all the time. His parents are in S.Africa and are well off he gets everything he wants and more.
I found it interesting that my mutual friend has had some major health issues I.E open heart surgery and his wife lost her job and had to take $2,000 a month pay cut so they can't afford their 3rd garage anymore primarily the one squidy keeps his new ninja in. They've let him park his bike there for 2+ years. Now they can't afford it and told him that his response (BTW garage $99 a month). I will help you with half for a little while! :bs:
My goodness if someone let me park my bike in their garage for a few years if they hit hard times I'd do everything in my power to help them. If I had the money like he has I'd pay for the garage but that is just me.
Oh, well my little vent!
Mary
I should help our case...
Im 24, 25 in august,
Only been down once, at 5mph around a corner, still dont know why, may have been a twig or something.
I gear up to go to work, I work behind my apt complex.
I've lifted the front wheel twice, both on accident, once when I was learning, once when I slipped off the clutch, both a while ago.
I have had my drivers license since 14, my motorcycle license/endorsement (different between NY/NH/FL) since 18. Been riding a year. Bought the bike with 9k miles 9 months ago, it has 14k now.
I dont split lanes, I dont do obscene speeds above the speed limit, I use my turn signals, and I WILL punch a car in the window if it gets withen punching range (done it twice)
Only time I go fast if I go on a group north run, early sunday morning, in the middle of nowhere with nobody around. Its how my strips got ate up.
I'd say I'm fairly safe.
1. Knew this was a Mary thread before I even opened it.
2. One bonehead does not a village of idiots make
3. Who buys their kid a ZX-14 anyway ? Sounds like Lunchmeat's gene pool was in a downward trajectory to begin with.
4 Let this be a lesson to all of you with kids ~ give them enough money to be able to do something but not so much that they don't have to do anything
Quote from: SAFE-T on February 17, 2012, 10:21:27 AM
1. Knew this was a Mary thread before I even opened it.
2. One bonehead does not a village of idiots make
3. Who buys their kid a ZX-14 anyway ? Sounds like Lunchmeat's gene pool was in a downward trajectory to begin with.
4 Let this be a lesson to all of you with kids ~ give them enough money to be able to do something but not so much that they don't have to do anything
A village of boneheads does make a village of idiots though
Sounds like you know a squidiot.
Quote from: Juan1 on February 17, 2012, 10:30:17 AM
Sounds like you know a squidiot.
Theres a lot of them round the tampa area.
They usually look like this...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/TL1000R/Quick%20Pics/squid10117628vm.jpg?t=1243476589)
(http://i.verylol.com/1/funny_family_motorcycle.jpg)
beach time
I'm just left my 20's. I'm 30 now. You're right. There's something about your 20's that is steeped in dickish-ness. It was as if my entire twenties was a quest to prove that "I'm a MAN!"
Age 29 was a year long cooling-off period. It felt like a great rubber band had untwisted itself. You're right about the testosterone. Maybe your levels drop off at the end of your twenties. It was such a load-off. You start to think slower. You see farther into the future. You can predict the outcome of events with acute accuracy. It's like you gain superpowers!
Fellow guys in their 20's: Don't fear 30! It's great!
I dont fear 30, I feared 18.
Its the age where your legally accountable for your actions.
hence, why I stopped speeding, streetracing, fighting, drinking under bridges, and so on.
Your brain is actually incapable of properly assessing the future possible repercussions of the choices you make until age 25.
Haha! Drinking under bridges! The scheme's you come up with to booze when you're underage. There's always that one guy who's 21 who buys the beer or liquor.
One time my friends and I took a weekend and drove from Central PA to Toronto, had a fun weekend and filled my parents minivan with cases for the drive home.
Quote from: SAFE-T on February 17, 2012, 10:59:56 AM
Your brain is actually incapable of properly assessing the future possible repercussions of the choices you make until age 25.
I guess I can halfway comprehend the choices I make, being its my half birthday in a week. go-go old man 25!
Quote from: SAFE-T on February 17, 2012, 10:59:56 AM
Your brain is actually incapable of properly assessing the future possible repercussions of the choices you make until age 25.
So true. It's like you only can see about a week into the future. Yes, there are moments of clairvoyance but they don't occur as often as they do at 30. I remember quitting my first job at a produce market because I wouldn't be able to hang out with my friends as much.
"It's ruining my summer!" I thought.
I remember being 18 and being a store operator of a 7-11 while being a AM acting as a gm at a KFC thinking to myself "is this really what being a teenager is like, I cant wait to be an adult"
Nothings changed.
Quote from: SAFE-T on February 17, 2012, 10:59:56 AM
Your brain is actually incapable of properly assessing the future possible repercussions of the choices you make until age 25.
Meh.... I dispute that claim. I know there have been "studies". but brain capability is altered by what you DO with it.
When "men" were expected to go out and get jobs at 14, they were a whole lot more responsible and capable when 20 rolled around. I'm just sayin.
Quote from: xunedeinx on February 17, 2012, 11:10:12 AM
I remember being 18 and being a store operator of a 7-11 while being a AM acting as a gm at a KFC thinking to myself "is this really what being a teenager is like, I cant wait to be an adult"
Nothings changed.
You should thank the backward moving country for it, when you were 18 there were factory jobs making and measuring stuff that you had to be really educated for. You went and got that education, and those jobs are now being done by chinese who are also "cant wait to be adults". Sadly they will also be disappointed when someone moves their cheese.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: xunedeinx on February 17, 2012, 11:06:33 AM
Quote from: SAFE-T on February 17, 2012, 10:59:56 AM
Your brain is actually incapable of properly assessing the future possible repercussions of the choices you make until age 25.
I guess I can halfway comprehend the choices I make, being its my half birthday in a week. go-go old man 25!
In five years, your powers will double! Like Professor X, it's uncanny. You'll overhear conversations between 21-year-olds about their "problems." Their problems, while devastating to them, will be simple and fixable to you, because you've been down that road. You'll be tempted to jump in and say:
"That's not a big deal, all you have to do is this-this-and-this."
"No! That won't work! Because
unrelated-thing unrelated-thing unrelated-thing." They say
You blink and think "Are they serious?"
You'll repeat: "That has nothing to do with this. Just do this-this-and-this and your problem will be solved."
The 20-something will become frustrated and insist that
unrelated-thing means something when, to you, it means nothing.
"You don't understand!" They'll say.
Tragically, they're right. You don't. In your mind, you're skipping the details and drilling right to the source of their problems with your super-perception.
Quote from: The Buddha on February 17, 2012, 11:19:06 AM
You should thank the backward moving country for it, when you were 18 there were factory jobs making and measuring stuff that you had to be really educated for. You went and got that education, and those jobs are now being done by chinese who are also "cant wait to be adults". Sadly they will also be disappointed when someone moves their cheese.
How do you need an education to "measure stuff"?? That's what I dont get.
Seems to me that stuff needs about 1 year of "vocational training", tops.
For many many people, 4 years of high school are wasted, let alone 4 years of college.
In other countries, people can stop with HS when they're 16, and start transitioning into real work (where available)
Quote from: xunedeinx on February 17, 2012, 11:10:12 AM
I remember being 18 and being a store operator of a 7-11 while being a AM acting as a gm at a KFC thinking to myself "is this really what being a teenager is like, I cant wait to be an adult"
Nothings changed.
Yup. "adults" are just slightly older teenagers. They're pretty much the same people. Which is why it is NOT okay for society to allow teenagers to act like selfish inconsiderate little chidren.
Okay, rant off now. sigh.
You want a good rant on 21-year old guys, listen to this bit of Classic Loveline with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew (NSFW).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kixXkO0brzI
Mary,
Generally speaking here. Not everyone ok, just general talk...
21 year males are rampaging horndogs. Flipping through the Victoria Secret catalog will pop their load. In that ever present frame is the need to attract a mate to mate with. Depending on what they have available to them at the time will determine that type of attraction method used. He is on a bike, he will do "look how good I am" things on his bike. In a car, he will do "look how good I am" things in his car. Etc. Just to be thought of as Cool.
There is no help for him. He must learn himself.
Michael
Quote from: mister on February 17, 2012, 03:33:02 PM
Mary,
Generally speaking here. Not everyone ok, just general talk...
21 year males are rampaging horndogs. Flipping through the Victoria Secret catalog will pop their load. In that ever present frame is the need to attract a mate to mate with. Depending on what they have available to them at the time will determine that type of attraction method used. He is on a bike, he will do "look how good I am" things on his bike. In a car, he will do "look how good I am" things in his car. Etc. Just to be thought of as Cool.
There is no help for him. He must learn himself.
Michael
Very true Michael I'm still learning.
Quote from: mister on February 17, 2012, 03:33:02 PM
Mary,
Generally speaking here. Not everyone ok, just general talk...
21 year males are rampaging horndogs. Flipping through the Victoria Secret catalog will pop their load. In that ever present frame is the need to attract a mate to mate with. Depending on what they have available to them at the time will determine that type of attraction method used. He is on a bike, he will do "look how good I am" things on his bike. In a car, he will do "look how good I am" things in his car. Etc. Just to be thought of as Cool.
There is no help for him. He must learn himself.
Michael
On my custom GS, with my full black gear, black gloves, black helmet with a fogged visor, I think I look pretty badass.
Or, I looked over dressed for the occasion on an outdated bike.
Either way, its a fogged visor, they don't know who I am!!!
Quote from: mister on February 17, 2012, 03:33:02 PM
Mary,
Generally speaking here. Not everyone ok, just general talk...
21 year males are rampaging horndogs. Flipping through the Victoria Secret catalog will pop their load. In that ever present frame is the need to attract a mate to mate with. Depending on what they have available to them at the time will determine that type of attraction method used. He is on a bike, he will do "look how good I am" things on his bike. In a car, he will do "look how good I am" things in his car. Etc. Just to be thought of as Cool.
There is no help for him. He must learn himself.
Michael
I'm 23 years old and I haven't experienced this. I guess it's because I view sex as something that's supposed to be shared behind closed doors and only with someone who you love. For me, attraction is mental...not physical.
I also feel like many relationships fail nowadays because one or both parties jump in with both feet, i.e., have sex right off the bat, then realize they aren't compatible. Then they're either stuck together because of a kid, or circumstance.
I'm 23 years old and I haven't experienced this. I guess it's because I view sex as something that's supposed to be shared behind closed doors and only with someone who you love. For me, attraction is mental...not physical.
I also feel like many relationships fail nowadays because one or both parties jump in with both feet, i.e., have sex right off the bat, then realize they aren't compatible. Then they're either stuck together because of a kid, or circumstance.
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Holy crapola,
Thats exactly how my wife and I have been together for 24years. You just hit the nail on the head. Well said for someone young enough to be my son. (geez I feel old) :bowdown:
Quote from: codajastal on February 18, 2012, 11:16:58 PM
Quote from: Kijona
I'm 23 years old and I haven't experienced this. I guess it's because I view sex as something that's supposed to be shared behind closed doors and only with someone who you love. For me, attraction is mental...not physical.
I also feel like many relationships fail nowadays because one or both parties jump in with both feet, i.e., have sex right off the bat, then realize they aren't compatible. Then they're either stuck together because of a kid, or circumstance.
Holy crapola,
Thats exactly how my wife and I have been together for 24years. You just hit the nail on the head. Well said for someone young enough to be my son. (geez I feel old) :bowdown:
Well, needless to say, I don't necessarily get along with people my age. Thank you though, I appreciate the compliment.
I have but a select few friends, and all but one of them are much older than I am. The reason being is that I'm stuck in this strange world: people my age think I'm "too old fashioned" and out-of-style (consequently I think they're just a bunch of morons). People older than me, that I would and do get along with great, hardly give me the chance because of my age. Ironic, isn't it?
The funny thing is I get along with people your age much better than others my age. Weird how the mind works.
Quote from: codajastal on February 18, 2012, 11:37:56 PM
The funny thing is I get along with people your age much better than others my age. Weird how the mind works.
Does that mean we can be friends? :cheers:
Quote from: Kijona on February 18, 2012, 11:56:51 PM
Quote from: codajastal on February 18, 2012, 11:37:56 PM
The funny thing is I get along with people your age much better than others my age. Weird how the mind works.
Does that mean we can be friends? :cheers:
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i sometimes think back to my younger days and wonder how the hell i'm still alive lol
honestly though i think everyone should have to take a motorcycle safety course before they get their license.
as for the squids riding without safety gear in shorts and flipflops, just makes it easier to pick out the people i want to avoid
I think this served my point pretty well LOL!
Just an update on squidly. My mutual friend gave me a call and let me know squidly had told him about the incident and was very hurt that I didn't notice his bike. Guess I should be :cry: right now but hey!
I'm studying women's psychology this semester and during the teenage years there is something called (darn can't remember the technical term clothes are dry and I don't have time to look it up) a magnified audience (maybe) where they believe that the whole world is watching them and focused in on their problems. So, if my hair is a mess the whole world is going to notice and poke fun at me. I learned this was a fallacy at an early age when at Disney and I said the wrong spiel for 7 minutes jumped over to the right one and no one noticed! Broke stage fright too!
Work time!
Mary
Id like to think im an exception to the title of this thread. Im 23, and try to ride my gs responsibly.. or at least not like an idiot.
All the 'chavs' with their modified cars or scooters, not my thing, too lame. I ride in full gear, even in hot weather and try to keep it under 80. I said try..
Of course, there are those of a similar age that are exactly as the thread title suggests. I know a few of them, and am constantly surprised at their stupidity, general lack of common sense and the inability to see what the repercussions of their actions could be..
the lad that was originally complained about .. Him and his 40 Bazillion brothers! .. Its so common it IS the norm pretty much .. But Mary .. You let someone on the back without checking they knew the pillion rules? .. Or at least knew your rules? ..
And one thing a riding mate of mine said recently when i was complaining about group rides and feeling the dread of someone close behind being taken out if 'I' made a mistake.. "worry about your safety , you ride the line you want and if they get taken out with it then they ARE FOLLOWING TOO CLOSE WITH NO SAFETY BUFFER... Their fault!" .. Im only fairly new to legal riding myself .. But everyone knows the ASSUME rule .. Dont they? ....... Sorry caps not shouting just main point
Yeah,
your right I assumed I think I pretty much made that known in my post. I took for granted that a rider would have common sense. But, shouldn't a rider know these things from I don't know riding? Just as when you get in the car with someone driving. Do you ask them "Do you know how to drive?" Pretty sure you don't. If I have a friend that wants to ride pillion and has never been on a bike then yes we sit down for the talk.
Also, if I would have done what you advised. I would have taken both of us out because he was already beyond the double yellow. I will not go down just to prove a point.
Mary
P.S. I also have another observation from all of my years in security and observing people. Most people assume that they are the exception to rule when in fact you are not you are like everyone else.
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Mmm .. I was just sayin .. Not attacking .. Just so thats clear .. My phone dont let me do smilies on this site either for some reason .. But .. Probably not in a car straight away .. In my work truck if we have a new "driver" i even ask to see licence .. I havent pillioned anyone for ages and then not legally, but yeah i check every 1st time i have someone new behind me on the seat .. Rider or not .. Came off many many years ago .. From a dirt bike into a blackberry bush ..not ever again did i fail to ask.. Dont want to seem cheeky but i suspect you be asking too next time .. Rather be blunt that banged up!
See,
You proved my point you only start asking that after you suffered the consequences of not doing it. It is not something that is ingrained in one's mind. Find it interesting that you chide someone for making the same mistake that you also made. Instead of making a been there done that comment.
Your work vehicle is completely different from a personal vehicle. Shoot at my old job I had to check and make sure every person that came on property was completely legal to drive if they forgot their license they didn't come on property clear and simple.
Anybody on here actually check a friend's license before letting them drive you anywhere in a POV?
Mary