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Title: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: xunedeinx on February 27, 2012, 10:32:14 AM
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/1-killed-4-wounded-in-school-shooting-in-Ohio-3363752.php

here we go again...

Are kids so full of anger that they must shoot each other? Its been like once a year since columbine happened.

Kids, just stop it.
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:15:40 PM
Haha I've seen kids snap. Teachers don't give a shaZam! any more.. if a kid comes to them and says "my dads raping me" its.. "Go the the front office!" [goes to office] "My dads raping me!" [staff; "Orly? Lets call him up and ask."] [dad; "Of course not! He's my only boy, I would never do such thing to him!"] ((Kid gets 3 days suspended for wasting staff's time)) <- true story...
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: shonole on February 27, 2012, 04:33:42 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:15:40 PM
Haha I've seen kids snap. Teachers don't give a shaZam! any more.. if a kid comes to them and says "my dads raping me" its.. "Go the the front office!" [goes to office] "My dads raping me!" [staff; "Orly? Lets call him up and ask."] [dad; "Of course not! He's my only boy, I would never do such thing to him!"] ((Kid gets 3 days suspended for wasting staff's time)) <- true story...

Pardon me if I don't believe you.

Also, "haha, I've seen kids snap"?  WTF is that?  You think this is funny? 
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:39:36 PM
He The teacher chased him down.. He didn't fire on the teacher. Meaning he was only going after the dickheads who we're picking on him. Btw I've seen kids snap. I've stopped them each time. I've also snapped myself over some dork bag being extremely racist. Problem?!? If I can find the humor in the stupidity in the people who do not care. I Wasn't laughing at the story I was laughing at my own story. And if you don't wanna believe it. Fine what ever. Doesn't hurt me. But sounds like you are one of those people who dismiss everyone, and don't wanna believe the unbelievable. Enough said.

Edit: I also summed up my story.. Didn't think anyone wanted to read a book.
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: shonole on February 27, 2012, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:39:36 PM
He The teacher chased him down.. He didn't fire on the teacher. Meaning he was only going after the dickheads who we're picking on him. Btw I've seen kids snap. I've stopped them each time. I've also snapped myself over some dork bag being extremely racist. Problem?!? If I can find the humor in the stupidity in the people who do not care. I Wasn't laughing at the story I was laughing at my own story. And if you don't wanna believe it. Fine what ever. Doesn't hurt me. But sounds like you are one of those people who dismiss everyone, and don't wanna believe the unbelievable. Enough said.

Edit: I also summed up my story.. Didn't think anyone wanted to read a book.

No, I'm someone with life experiences, who has seen more that I care to see.  Some things are believable, others are not.  I've read enough of your posts to see the swill that spews from your mouth.  You're an "upper".  Your story always has to be better than everyone else's.  "Enough said".
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: shonole on February 27, 2012, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:39:36 PM
He The teacher chased him down.. He didn't fire on the teacher. Meaning he was only going after the dickheads who we're picking on him. Btw I've seen kids snap. I've stopped them each time. I've also snapped myself over some dork bag being extremely racist. Problem?!? If I can find the humor in the stupidity in the people who do not care. I Wasn't laughing at the story I was laughing at my own story. And if you don't wanna believe it. Fine what ever. Doesn't hurt me. But sounds like you are one of those people who dismiss everyone, and don't wanna believe the unbelievable. Enough said.

Edit: I also summed up my story.. Didn't think anyone wanted to read a book.

No, I'm someone with life experiences, who has seen more that I care to see.  Some things are believable, others are not.  I've read enough of your posts to see the swill that spews from your mouth.  You're an "upper".  Your story always has to be better than everyone else's.  "Enough said".

Hah, its catching on.. "enough said" that is. an upper eh? Maybe I want to throw out the blunt truth that people REFUSE to understand. Bet you wouldn't believe me either if I said the world was round. Seen more than you care to see. but do you do anything to stop future things from happening? I doubt not. The only way I can get a reaction from people is to be a d!ck about it. So they actually read it. and possibly a day later or even years later. They will be like "Maybe he was right after all." Enough said.
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: shonole on February 27, 2012, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: shonole on February 27, 2012, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:39:36 PM
He The teacher chased him down.. He didn't fire on the teacher. Meaning he was only going after the dickheads who we're picking on him. Btw I've seen kids snap. I've stopped them each time. I've also snapped myself over some dork bag being extremely racist. Problem?!? If I can find the humor in the stupidity in the people who do not care. I Wasn't laughing at the story I was laughing at my own story. And if you don't wanna believe it. Fine what ever. Doesn't hurt me. But sounds like you are one of those people who dismiss everyone, and don't wanna believe the unbelievable. Enough said.

Edit: I also summed up my story.. Didn't think anyone wanted to read a book.

No, I'm someone with life experiences, who has seen more that I care to see.  Some things are believable, others are not.  I've read enough of your posts to see the swill that spews from your mouth.  You're an "upper".  Your story always has to be better than everyone else's.  "Enough said".

Hah, its catching on.. "enough said" that is. an upper eh? Maybe I want to throw out the blunt truth that people REFUSE to understand. Bet you wouldn't believe me either if I said the world was round. Seen more than you care to see. but do you do anything to stop future things from happening? I doubt not. The only way I can get a reaction from people is to be a d!ck about it. So they actually read it. and possibly a day later or even years later. They will be like "Maybe he was right after all." Enough said.

So you're a hero?  Is that what you're saying?  "Btw I've seen kids snap. I've stopped them each time."

2 tours and 7 years in Law Enforcement.  That's what I've done.
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: codajastal on February 27, 2012, 04:55:00 PM
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No, I'm someone with life experiences, who has seen more that I care to see.  Some things are believable, others are not.  I've read enough of your posts to see the swill that spews from your mouth.  You're an "upper".  Your story always has to be better than everyone else's.  "Enough said".
+1
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Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: shonole on February 27, 2012, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: shonole on February 27, 2012, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:39:36 PM
He The teacher chased him down.. He didn't fire on the teacher. Meaning he was only going after the dickheads who we're picking on him. Btw I've seen kids snap. I've stopped them each time. I've also snapped myself over some dork bag being extremely racist. Problem?!? If I can find the humor in the stupidity in the people who do not care. I Wasn't laughing at the story I was laughing at my own story. And if you don't wanna believe it. Fine what ever. Doesn't hurt me. But sounds like you are one of those people who dismiss everyone, and don't wanna believe the unbelievable. Enough said.

Edit: I also summed up my story.. Didn't think anyone wanted to read a book.

No, I'm someone with life experiences, who has seen more that I care to see.  Some things are believable, others are not.  I've read enough of your posts to see the swill that spews from your mouth.  You're an "upper".  Your story always has to be better than everyone else's.  "Enough said".

Hah, its catching on.. "enough said" that is. an upper eh? Maybe I want to throw out the blunt truth that people REFUSE to understand. Bet you wouldn't believe me either if I said the world was round. Seen more than you care to see. but do you do anything to stop future things from happening? I doubt not. The only way I can get a reaction from people is to be a d!ck about it. So they actually read it. and possibly a day later or even years later. They will be like "Maybe he was right after all." Enough said.

So you're a hero?  Is that what you're saying?  "Btw I've seen kids snap. I've stopped them each time."

2 tours and 7 years in Law Enforcement.  That's what I've done.

So you're a bully? I SEE NOW. I understand. Btw what you have been doing. [Attacking me over pity things.] IS actually being a bully yourself.. Only People who've been bullied would know one. and I'm sure you've "Stopped" kids.. by locking them up and claiming they are mentally unstable. Yeah. Your a real god damn hero. I do more taking a shaZam! than probably your 2 tours and 7 years in law enforcement. I know people like you very well.. my father was one. He beat me 6 years before I put a stop to it. IE: 10 years old. Never was justice served. So I don't wanna hear all this bullshit. Attack me all you want. In the end. you will be the one with the regrets! [Enough said.]
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: codajastal on February 27, 2012, 05:07:50 PM
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So you're a bully? I SEE NOW. I understand. Btw what you have been doing. [Attacking me over pity things.] IS actually being a bully yourself.. Only People who've been bullied would know one. and I'm sure you've "Stopped" kids.. by locking them up and claiming they are mentally unstable. Yeah. Your a real god damn hero. I do more taking a shaZam! than probably your 2 tours and 7 years in law enforcement. I know people like you very well.. my father was one. He beat me 6 years before I put a stop to it. IE: 10 years old. Never was justice served. So I don't wanna hear all this bullshit. Attack me all you want. In the end. you will be the one with the regrets! [Enough said.]

Take it outside :nono:
Title: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: kyleGS500 on February 27, 2012, 05:10:50 PM
Little off the subject aren't we? Ill never understand why this stuff happens. As a kid I was bullied for being over weight and not "one" of the crowd but I would have never dreamed of shooting someone.


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Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 05:18:17 PM
Quote from: kyleGS500 on February 27, 2012, 05:10:50 PM
Little off the subject aren't we? Ill never understand why this stuff happens. As a kid I was bullied for being over weight and not "one" of the crowd but I would have never dreamed of shooting someone.


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I am always friends with guys like you! Because those are the best kinds of friends. People who srsly understand the harshes of life. Have a friend named mike. extremely over weight. Helped him lose some weight [its what he wanted.] than I helped him get a girlfriend. [never had one before] She loves him. and he loves her. 2 years and still going. So I'm glad you made it this far. Keep going my friend.. Keep going and never look back!
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: shonole on February 27, 2012, 05:23:23 PM
I'm far from a bully.  And I'm not attacking you.  Just stating simple observations.  You are the one that laughed about a school shooting (and you can say that wasn't what you were laughing about all you want, everyone here can see what you wrote).  And insinuated that I "locked kids up and claimed they were mentally unstable".  When did I ever say that?

"I do more taking a shaZam! than probably your 2 tours and 7 years in law enforcement"?  That says everything I need to know.  I pray that, as you mature, you come back and look at that statement and realize how ignorant it is.

I'm sorry that you were bullied and abused.   No one deserves that.  I apologize if I came off brash and offended or belittled you.

I empathize, as I too have suffered through plenty of mental anguish.

That said, kyle is right.  We've gotten off topic.  This shooting was one of the numerous tragedies we've suffered over the past few years, and is a complete and utter shame.
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: bill14224 on February 27, 2012, 05:46:14 PM
Back to the subject, if we ever stop mistreating our children this sort of thing will stop.  Kids are kids.  They were the same in the days of Socrates.  The only thing that changes is how we treat them.  Maybe we should stop treating them like pets?  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 05:46:40 PM
I'm sorry for bashing you, But Just its hard to get your thoughts across now days cause everyone is worried about their own ideas. Not willing to listen to others. and I'm taking my own advice. And Going back ontopic, and off my own ideas. The kid was accordingly "Not bullied by students" One's playing around may be anothers picking on. Kids are immature. and I think its up to the adults to find this. and attack it early. Now world news said that he posted something on facebook before he did this. and said "Could this of been stopped?" that is so fuking arrogant of them! so If im venting on facebook how I want to kill everyone at work. the FBI is gonna show up at your door step? SOME People just have TEMPERS. others MENTAL DISORDERS!

I got introuble in my younger highschool years for posting on facebook that I wish this [d!ckhead deans] car would just randomly explode. He was a REAL d0uche! and a freaking pedophile.

Back ontopic. Why does everyone look at things AFTER the fact. Also things start at the house. If the kid had a decent family. I don't think he would of done this. Parents point blame at schools and students because they mentally feel guilty for not hugging him every day, and thanking him for being a great kid. Normally kids that do this. Have high IQs and are VERY smart. but no one cares. no one cares till they make six figures.

I know if my parents gave half a shaZam! they did about me growing up as they did about other things. that my school life wouldn't of possibly been as mentally scaring on me when I was smaller. Just my 2cents on the subject. I say we stop talking about. Let the parents heal. And Hopefully move on. Revenge feels good for the first 5 Mins. but after that. you still hate them. and nothing good comes of it.

and watch the question "How he got the gun?" will come up! Okay I was 10 and knew where daddys gun was.. and where he kept the ammo. I didn't dare to touch it of course. because I was always told not to. Also at that time, really Loved my gokarts more than I did guns. So stupid people are gonna complain about that. If I wanted to. I could go out right now. and pick up an AR-15 for $800 with enough ammo to fight the Chinese army. So Kids know gun dealers? I blame the parents for not teaching their kids the consequences of what happens when you do really fuked up things.. Then again. Some kids feel jail for the rest of their life will be better than what they are going through now. A lot choose suicide too. More than a mass shooting. News doesn't report on all those.

That's my thoughts.
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: Twisted on February 27, 2012, 11:49:38 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:49:29 PM
The only way I can get a reaction from people is to be a d!ck about it.

Probably the most honest thing I have ever seen you post. You should have stated "enough said" right after this sentence.
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: codajastal on February 28, 2012, 12:07:31 AM
Quote from: Twisted on February 27, 2012, 11:49:38 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 04:49:29 PM
The only way I can get a reaction from people is to be a d!ck about it.

Probably the most honest thing I have ever seen you post. You should have stated "enough said" right after this sentence.
:icon_lol: :bowdown:
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on February 28, 2012, 03:58:46 AM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 27, 2012, 05:18:17 PM
Quote from: kyleGS500 on February 27, 2012, 05:10:50 PM
Little off the subject aren't we? Ill never understand why this stuff happens. As a kid I was bullied for being over weight and not "one" of the crowd but I would have never dreamed of shooting someone.


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I am always friends with guys like you! Because those are the best kinds of friends. People who srsly understand the harshes of life. Have a friend named mike. extremely over weight. Helped him lose some weight [its what he wanted.] than I helped him get a girlfriend. [never had one before] She loves him. and he loves her. 2 years and still going. So I'm glad you made it this far. Keep going my friend.. Keep going and never look back!
was in teh same boat my friends. funny thing was i ended up hiring one of my "tormentors" from times past. im a forgiving person for most thigns. including those incidences. life goes on, and i dont look back. i chose not to be an ass during my young days.im better than that
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: ninjeff on February 28, 2012, 06:43:11 AM
Thing is, if you can just make it past high school, when you get to be in your 30s you realize that nothing that happened then really matters.

Things always seem like the end of the world in high school, but they aren't.

Kind of just wish someone would tell these kids that later on in life so many things will happen and you'll learn so much and that high school is just a blip on the radar.
Title: Re: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: ohgood on February 28, 2012, 09:33:14 AM
Quote from: ninjeff on February 28, 2012, 06:43:11 AM
Thing is, if you can just make it past high school, when you get to be in your 30s you realize that nothing that happened then really matters.

Things always seem like the end of the world in high school, but they aren't.

Kind of just wish someone would tell these kids that later on in life so many things will happen and you'll learn so much and that high school is just a blip on the radar.

+1

And good lord at the whining.






Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: SAFE-T on February 28, 2012, 12:11:56 PM
Talk - action = zero

I think kids biggest problem is that you can say things will get better all you want, but if no one is there to make it better, why believe it ? Adults can try this at work ~ tell yourself every day it will get better, but don't actually change anything and see how you feel about that in 6 months.
Title: Re: Another school shooting? WTF!?
Post by: Juan1 on February 29, 2012, 11:07:31 AM
Considering the number of guns in the U.S. and the hormone-induced angst of teenagers in general, I'm surprised there aren't more school shootings.