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Title: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: mysterious_rider on March 02, 2012, 09:53:11 AM
Hiya dudes, got a leak from where i kept having to whip the clutch cover off. Pretty bad drip coming from that seal where the ignition thing is. Anyone know what its called and where I can buy one?

Also can it be fitted without taking clutch cover off?

Many thanks!  :)
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: mysterious_rider on March 02, 2012, 02:15:00 PM
bump. whats the seal called where the ignition thing goes? It's that seal by the cylinder behind the suzuki badge cover.
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: Dresnewtoy on March 02, 2012, 03:09:59 PM
Show us a pic! A picture is worth a thousand words!!
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: mysterious_rider on March 02, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
hi its this fucker right here.


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Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: adidasguy on March 02, 2012, 03:38:53 PM
OIL SEAL, RH (22X40X8)
09283-22015    1    $6.87
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: BaltimoreGS on March 02, 2012, 03:47:08 PM
Use an appropriately sized socket and a hammer to drive the new seal in.  Be careful you don't pop the little spring off or the new seal will leak too.  I like to put a couple dabs of heavy grease on the spring to help keep it from popping out   :thumb:

-Jessie
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: slipperymongoose on March 02, 2012, 03:47:45 PM
Check out my video in the tutorial section. Make sure you buy the genuine seal not a cheap one because it will leak trust me I know. And yes side cover has to come off.
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: BaltimoreGS on March 02, 2012, 03:56:45 PM
If you had a small seal puller and a deep well socket that would fit far enough over the rotor (or even a piece of PVC pipe) you could replace the seal without removing the side cover if the seal is driven in from the outside.

-Jessie

Seal puller

(http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/tools/pics/seal_puller.jpg)
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: mysterious_rider on March 02, 2012, 04:00:02 PM
hi guys any places in the uk that would sell the seal? I'm in england you see! I've no idea what it's actually called!!!!

Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: BaltimoreGS on March 02, 2012, 04:03:08 PM
Any Suzuki dealers in your area?
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: slipperymongoose on March 02, 2012, 04:04:29 PM
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on March 02, 2012, 03:56:45 PM
If you had a small seal puller and a deep well socket that would fit far enough over the rotor (or even a piece of PVC pipe) you could replace the seal without removing the side cover if the seal is driven in from the outside.

-Jessie

The rotor sits through the seal on the bike, you would probably risk damage to it if you tried to hook in and under.

Quote from: mysterious_rider on March 02, 2012, 04:00:02 PM
hi guys any places in the uk that would sell the seal? I'm in england you see! I've no idea what it's actually called!!!!

Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go to your Suzuki dealer, in this case definetly go genuine.

Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: BaltimoreGS on March 02, 2012, 04:12:13 PM
Not starting a pissing match but that is the kind of tool I use to replace rear main seals and front crank seals in Toyota engines and it doesn't damage the crankshaft.  That being said, you are the one who has actually replaced that seal before where as I have not.  I guess I could actually experiment with the block Adfalchius used for her broken stud video when I get a chance to make sure it works.

-Jessie

Edit-  And a dirt biker tip: If you don't want to drain the oil you can lean the bike over towards the other side so all the oil drains into the other half of the engine   :thumb:
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: slipperymongoose on March 02, 2012, 04:20:40 PM
No worries Baltimore is that tool plastic or something? I was also going off my Haynes manual too. I remember my origional seal was a real beech to get out, had to really bash it. But for people who don't have or get access to a seal puller my video way is probably best.
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: adidasguy on March 02, 2012, 04:24:34 PM
Quote from: mysterious_rider on March 02, 2012, 04:00:02 PM
hi guys any places in the uk that would sell the seal? I'm in england you see! I've no idea what it's actually called!!!!


Duh.......

OIL SEAL, RH (22X40X8)   09283-22015       $6.87

And there's the Suzuki part number. Look on the CRANKSHAFT page of the parts diagrams.

Go to a Suzuki dealer.
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: BaltimoreGS on March 02, 2012, 04:29:20 PM
Anyone that contributes a video is cool by me Slippery   :thumb:  The tool is metal.  You hold it sideways to slip the hook under the seal then turn it and lift it up so the hook grabs the metal part of the seal.  A couple good whacks with a hammer on the other angled end and the seal pops right out in a perfect world.  Sometimes the seal is stubborn and the metal tears, then you just start over in another spot.

And to the OP, if you are going to remove the side cover you will need to order a new side cover new gasket.

-Jessie
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: slipperymongoose on March 02, 2012, 04:57:33 PM
 :thumb: I've never used a seal puller, cause unless you do them regularly theres no point having one for home use, but yeah can now see why not let us know how it goes, the install is the same as shown so all good. You would probably combine my video with a clutch plate change, but always good to show options. Also wanted to show another way of dealing with the small bolts like you and Adfalchius did. There is always plenty of room to prosper on YouTube
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: BaltimoreGS on March 02, 2012, 05:44:21 PM
Adidas hoards parts, I hoard tools   :laugh:

-Jessie
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: mysterious_rider on March 05, 2012, 02:27:42 PM
cheers for the help. I ordered two seals from the USA but just now got an email saying there was none in stock.  :cookoo: Stupid. The leak seams to have stopped so i guess maybe i filled it with a tad too much oil..

Will buy another seal if the leak carries on. I take it this seal is the same all throughout the gs500 years?
Mines the gs500ev 1996 model. Cheers.  :)

Also I won't need the seal puller I would have thought. Should'nt be too difficult to do. Managed to do fork seals before without one.

thanks.
Title: Re: leaking seal, clutch cover side, ignition thing?
Post by: tt_four on March 05, 2012, 03:24:01 PM
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on March 02, 2012, 04:12:13 PM
Edit-  And a dirt biker tip: If you don't want to drain the oil you can lean the bike over towards the other side so all the oil drains into the other half of the engine   :thumb:

Ha! I enjoy that method, just gotta make sure your carb is empty before you lay our bike over inside the house haha  :oops:

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