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Title: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on March 21, 2012, 05:55:57 PM
Hi All,
Friend and I are putting together a fun bike built out of two junkers.
So far this is what we have, it's taken all winter just putting on it once or twice a week.
Lots of new parts, and more money than I want to think about.

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/500messtostartwith.jpg)
To this and on and on...

[(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/two.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/three.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/six.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/one.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/four.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/five.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/5.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/rsif.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/nrdif.jpg)


So there she be so far, and aways to go yet. 
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: adidasguy on March 21, 2012, 06:02:59 PM
You're showing some good taste in your build. Too often people really mess up a bike trying for a "street fighter" look. You're keeping it clean, not all chopped up and tastefully done.

I have the Shorai's and MosFet's in my bikes. Good choice.

The black forks with the gators works out very nice.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on March 21, 2012, 06:15:22 PM
Thanks, my first try at this.
I wanted it clean, simple, with just a little color to catch the eye.
We got the shori only because of space limitations, hope it works out.
I have heard plus's and minus's.
Again, thanks !
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: cbrfxr67 on March 21, 2012, 06:55:28 PM
Looking good!  Applause for pics!  more more more,....can't wait to see you sew it up.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: 5thAve on March 21, 2012, 07:06:14 PM
Ooh, that colour combo is nice. Can't wait to see it assembled!
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: adidasguy on March 21, 2012, 10:11:14 PM
I have the Shorai 14a (the $150 one) in 3 bikes and the 4th bike I'm building. I wouldn't have anything else.
I can't see which one you have. But they are worth it. Bikes all started fine at 30*.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: seamax on March 22, 2012, 07:53:49 AM
AWESOME! Finally another black and red combo GS with undertail exhaust. Well mine has been converted now to underbelly. Love the build. Can we get a clean pic of how it looks with the routed exhaust on the right side.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: Tombstones81 on March 22, 2012, 08:09:35 AM
Indeed!
YUMMM on the red and black!!

especially the valve cover paint job!
that sucker is friggin SHINY!

Okay okay okay! (trying to refrain from more painting ideas with mine!!!)
I spent enough! hahaha
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: vasama on March 22, 2012, 08:19:33 AM
Beautiful work, man, simply beautiful!. Congratulations!!

:cheers:
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: cbrfxr67 on March 26, 2012, 09:23:27 AM
updates??  8)
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: knowles on March 26, 2012, 12:10:54 PM
Like the colors, I agree with adidasguy lot of people try to do a fighter and mess it up. nice bike man.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: holyfighter117 on March 27, 2012, 12:19:05 AM
What tail section are you using? it looks sweet!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on April 30, 2012, 05:52:37 PM
Finally have an update on the build.
By the way, that's a 01 Yami R1 race tail.
HJ and I rode the bike this last Saturday. Runs real good, a little lean high up, running 140 mains right now with the lunchbox and the custom exhaust. We're going to put in some 150 mains and give them a try. The bike sounds AWSOME !
Need to hide the rear master cyl etc with some expanded metal or perforated sheeting but....
One other glitch it seems the dual dominators pull a heck of a lot of juice when both are used as running lights so we're going to look at smaller bulbs, or running just one light and two for high beam.  Anyone else notice this with the dominators?
Anyway here it is so far.

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500%20build3/100_1191.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500%20build3/100_1196.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500%20build3/100_1199.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500%20build3/100_1195.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500%20build3/100_1192.jpg)
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: gsatterw on April 30, 2012, 07:23:08 PM
Looks awesome.

Suggestions:
1) Factory clip ons (produced for 89's only, and 89-00 in europe). I think they would really make the bike look mean.

2) Chin fairing/belly pan. Would really pull the whole bike together.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: zute72 on April 30, 2012, 07:48:01 PM
Sweet!!  :thumb:

Awesome ride  :bowdown: (my fav colors)
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: shonole on April 30, 2012, 07:49:39 PM
Quote from: gsatterw on April 30, 2012, 07:23:08 PM
Looks awesome.

Suggestions:
1) Factory clip ons (produced for 89's only, and 89-00 in europe). I think they would really make the bike look mean.

2) Chin fairing/belly pan. Would really pull the whole bike together.

x2.

I also prefer the look of the stock headlight, or bigger duals.  Those look too small.

And, if you can, chop about 3" off of that exhaust so it sits flush, would look 1000x better.

All in all, really nice work!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: gsatterw on April 30, 2012, 08:14:28 PM
^^^Agreed^^^
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: entropic on April 30, 2012, 11:07:48 PM
Looks Amazing !! Awesome job.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: Tombstones81 on May 01, 2012, 04:39:23 AM
Gorgeous bike!!  :thumb:  :thumb:
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: Funderb on May 01, 2012, 06:47:28 AM
that is sexy. good job, dude!
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: cbrfxr67 on May 01, 2012, 07:15:14 AM
Fab-nastic!
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: reload on May 01, 2012, 08:09:13 AM
looking good there. what tail cowl is that?
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: shonole on May 01, 2012, 10:35:17 AM
Quote from: reload on May 01, 2012, 08:09:13 AM
looking good there. what tail cowl is that?

01 Yami R1 race tail according to his post.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: jmill on May 01, 2012, 11:08:07 AM
Wow that looks good. How did you get that exhaust pipe to route so cleanly under the tail? Professional work or something you fabbed up yourself?

Really like the red hardware for accents. Very nicely done.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: reload on May 01, 2012, 11:36:43 AM
Quote from: shonole on May 01, 2012, 10:35:17 AM
Quote from: reload on May 01, 2012, 08:09:13 AM
looking good there. what tail cowl is that?

01 Yami R1 race tail according to his post.

hahaha d'oh thats what i get for skimming
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on May 01, 2012, 05:18:41 PM
Thanks for all the comments and suggetions !   
The bikes all seem to be a work in progress don't they ?
You look at the bike and think, I could always add this or do that and on and on .........
The exhaust we did (routed and tack welded) ourselves, we took it to a custon shop to have it TIG welded ($35.00). It's a combination of old mandrel bends we cut up and fit together.
We were going to make the can flush with the tail but were a little leery of the heat affecting the CBR tail light/turn signals molded into the tail just above the can. As it turned out there really isn't too much heat off the can. The pipes long enough, I think around six feet, the the heat dissipates well.

Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: Byard on May 02, 2012, 07:46:12 AM
Quote from: mab32 on April 30, 2012, 05:52:37 PM
Finally have an update on the build.
By the way, that's a 01 Yami R1 race tail.
HJ and I rode the bike this last Saturday. Runs real good, a little lean high up, running 140 mains right now with the lunchbox and the custom exhaust. We're going to put in some 150 mains and give them a try. The bike sounds AWSOME !
Need to hide the rear master cyl etc with some expanded metal or perforated sheeting but....
One other glitch it seems the dual dominators pull a heck of a lot of juice when both are used as running lights so we're going to look at smaller bulbs, or running just one light and two for high beam.  Anyone else notice this with the dominators?
Anyway here it is so far.

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500%20build3/100_1191.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500%20build3/100_1196.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500%20build3/100_1199.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500%20build3/100_1195.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500%20build3/100_1192.jpg)

f%$k f%$k f%$k that is f%$king nice
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: Tombstones81 on May 02, 2012, 01:39:53 PM
One thing that makes that front end look really good.

Is how the dual headlights are right below the gauges.

Never been a fan of those types of headlights no matter the size because people always put them just Too far down and just look Odd to me.

Those are Perfect! tho.

(edit)

how about some in depth details on the painting tho?

Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: bombsquad83 on May 02, 2012, 03:12:49 PM
Really well done tail and exhuast.  Definitely a thing of beauty.  Curious though...where is your tailight and signals on the back?  I also agree with the person that said the exhuast should be shorter to be flush with the end of the tail.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on May 02, 2012, 05:59:10 PM
The paint is Just duplicolor flat black on the frame, I have no illusions of longevity but it's an easy touchup. The deep red highlights are again duplicolor, works well and takes the heat.
The tank and tail were done by a custom painter, coats of black and seven coats of clear.
Relatively inexpensive and gas proof.
I'm really not sure what paint brand he used.
The turn signals on the front are the GS500 rear turn signals, on the back it's a CBR600 LED intergrated tail/turn signals built right up into the end of the tail, just over the can.
I'm going to throw on another set of GS500 rear turns for the back, they look fine.
It's got a GSX-R shock, the forks were modified by inserting 1-3/8" delrin spacers and using 20wt fork oil. The suspension is firm.
Got a new Shindengen r/r and the Shorai lithium battery so we were able to fit almost all the electrics in a Suzuki GT380 battery box we modified to fit the frame.
It's still a wait and see situation with the Shorai battery, it works, theres plenty of power but new technology like that is still NEW technology. Don't want a fire under my butt.
I need to tell everyone that if it weren't for the expertise and 30 plus years of experiance of my friend this bike would not have happened. He's the kind that can see a wiring harness on the floor of a shop and tell you what bike it came out of.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: adidasguy on May 02, 2012, 06:09:36 PM
Nice job.

I've been running Shorai for quite a while now in all my bikes. I don't know where a battery tender is - I just don't need it. also using the MosFet regulators in all bikes. Good combination.

Also I added the single LED battery status indicator. Its a nice easy idiot light to show battery status and that the electrical system is A-OK.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: Agno on May 02, 2012, 08:14:23 PM
Adidas... Do you have a write-up on that battery status led?
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: knowles on May 02, 2012, 09:48:25 PM
LOVE the exhaust, just what i want to do to mine. Great job
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: dougdoberman on May 10, 2012, 08:04:59 AM
Nice job mab32.

Couple of questions.  What's the spread of light like with those Dominators?  They're not too focused dead-ahead are they?

And, did you need to modify the subframe to get that R1 tail on there? 
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: adidasguy on May 10, 2012, 03:05:26 PM
Quote from: Agno on May 02, 2012, 08:14:23 PM
Adidas... Do you have a write-up on that battery status led?

Here's info. I like it because it is an idiot light. No need to try to read a volt meter while riding. All you care about is good, bad, charging, etc.

http://roadstercycle.com/Motorcycle%20voltage%20monitor.htm
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: SS Adrenaline on May 11, 2012, 05:19:51 AM
It looks fantastic.  Very nice job.  I agree that the exhaust should be set back a few more inches.  The all black front forks look so sweet and witht he red accents, takes my breath away.
Cheers.
Title: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: BeerIsSoAwesome on May 12, 2012, 07:04:21 AM
This is just awesome. I have a 1992 model with which I want to do something similar, and this is an inspiration.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: steezin_and_wheezin on September 12, 2012, 01:37:08 PM
 :sad: What happened to this beast?
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: GI_JO_NATHAN on September 18, 2012, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on September 12, 2012, 01:37:08 PM
:sad: What happened to this beast?
He's still around.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: Higgins13 on September 18, 2012, 11:36:32 AM
Im more of a sports bike fan but that looks good!
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: Jack_S on September 18, 2012, 12:41:13 PM
Loving the underseat exhaust and colour combination, look forward to seeing what other changes you make
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mabrio on September 19, 2012, 08:56:43 AM


Well done art work, good color combination and still kept GS500 tone, congratulation!
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: MaxP on September 21, 2012, 01:33:36 AM
Very nice. The newer pictures don't seem to be there any more. Any chance of still seeing the updated work?
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: tom.gabriele on September 23, 2012, 12:24:57 PM
@Mab - how did you mount the stock turn signals on the Dominator headlight? Looks like you just drilled the right size hole through the fork bracket? I wanted/want to do that to mine, but it looked like there wouldn't be enough room. I ended up making some brackets that go on the brake line retainer clip bolt on the right and speedo cable on the left.

@Doug - the Dominators definitely need new bulbs. The ones they come with are not so great. I have Silverstars in mine right now. Lots of light output and the angle for low/high beam is good, but the side-to-side spread leaves something to be desired. It's an issue going around sharper turns at night, the beams don't illuminate the road very well as you are coming up to the turn. HOWEVER, I wouldn't call it dangerous. You just need to be driving somewhat near the speed limit and it won't be much of a problem.

@Mab re: headlight draw - Just get Silverstar bulbs like I did, and it will only be 6 months to a year until the low beam burns out in one of them. Then you have a single low beam/dual high beam like you wanted!  I recently got that "upgrade" given to me by the overpriced headlight gods.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on September 23, 2012, 06:36:08 PM
I mounted the directionals by drilling the dominater mounts with a 3/8" drill and wiggled it around some till things fit. I believe the directional bolts were 10mm.
As far as the headlight bulbs go, I put 35w in, I'm using a shorei lithium iron battery and the draw of the two 55w bulbs was more than I was comfortable with.
I don't ride at night so not an issue, if I had to I'd just do it and pray a little, just need lights for visability and inspection.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: Toogoofy317 on September 24, 2012, 10:36:14 PM
What exactly did you do with that tail. Did you have to weld the subframe. I've always wanted to do this on Flick but I cannot weld due to a pacemaker defibrillator  :sad:

Mary
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on September 24, 2012, 11:20:10 PM
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on September 24, 2012, 10:36:14 PM
What exactly did you do with that tail. Did you have to weld the subframe. I've always wanted to do this on Flick but I cannot weld due to a pacemaker defibrillator  :sad:

Mary
no ac or dc? or nothing at all? can the bf weld? ( or know anyone that can?) i had fun welding the gsxr wedge can onto my 97 i had
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on September 25, 2012, 06:55:50 AM
Toogoofy317,
The tail is a 2001 R1 race tail I picked up on ebay. There are no bolt/screw holes in the tail as purchased, so you can put them where needed to some extent.
The only modification to the sub frame was to cut off the passenger peg braces.
We did have to make some round threaded inserts out of drill rod, drill through the frame, and weld in the inserts to hold the tail on to the frame.
The same could be accomplished by just drilling through the frame without the inserts and use a through bolt, washers, and a nut but we were afraid of the tail splitting or cracking (fiberglass).
Perhaps using a piece of steel tubing through the drilled hole in the frame would be adequate instead of a threaded, welded in insert.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on September 25, 2012, 07:20:12 AM
The only other modification I've made to date is the fuel delivery system.
If you look at the last image of the bike, I've got a motion pro on/off valve on the fuel line from the tank and a quick disconnect between that and the carbs so I have no leaks when I have to pull the tank off.
I have a straight shot from the tank to the carbs so I needed the on/off and the quick dissconect.
I'm thinking of going up one tooth on the drive sprocket.
Right now it's two down and fairly frisky if you jump on it.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: BassWoW on September 26, 2012, 09:40:15 AM
awesome project-
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on September 26, 2012, 05:37:21 PM
Again, thanks guys for the thumbs up.
Coming from you guys it's a real compliment !
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: tom.gabriele on September 30, 2012, 07:10:56 PM
Quote from: mab32 on September 23, 2012, 06:36:08 PM
I mounted the directionals by drilling the dominater mounts with a 3/8" drill and wiggled it around some till things fit. I believe the directional bolts were 10mm.

One more question Mab - where on the bracket did you drill? Mine looks like this (top down view):

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/tomgabriele/IMG_20120930_215901.jpg)


on the forward part, looks like there wouldn't be enough clearance with the headlight bucket, center part is sloped, so the lights would be raked back, and not enough clearance with the fork clamps to the rear.

am i missing something, or are your brackets different?  thanks for the help with this silly question!
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on October 01, 2012, 07:26:04 AM
Quote from: tom.gabriele on September 30, 2012, 07:10:56 PM
Quote from: mab32 on September 23, 2012, 06:36:08 PM
I mounted the directionals by drilling the dominater mounts with a 3/8" drill and wiggled it around some till things fit. I believe the directional bolts were 10mm.

One more question Mab - where on the bracket did you drill? Mine looks like this (top down view):

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj633/tomgabriele/IMG_20120930_215901.jpg)


on the forward part, looks like there wouldn't be enough clearance with the headlight bucket, center part is sloped, so the lights would be raked back, and not enough clearance with the fork clamps to the rear.

am i missing something, or are your brackets different?  thanks for the help with this silly question!

It looks like you have different brackets than I have. Yours look like the ones with the rubber sleeve to snug up on the forks.
Mine came with the Dominator headlights, they're kind of cheap but work out fine.
I don't want to tell you to drill what you have and make a mess of it for you.
I'll get some close ups of my setup and put them up here so you can compare.

Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: tom.gabriele on October 01, 2012, 09:06:19 AM
Don't worry, I won't listen to any bad advice  :D

If you don't mind putting up pictures, that would be great. Looks like it might just not work with my brackets.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on October 02, 2012, 05:28:36 PM
Quote from: tom.gabriele on October 01, 2012, 09:06:19 AM
Don't worry, I won't listen to any bad advice  :D

If you don't mind putting up pictures, that would be great. Looks like it might just not work with my brackets.

Thanks!

Here's the pics, I hope they help.

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/brackets.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/light1.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/light2.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/light3.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/light4.jpg)

(http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff361/skysol173/500/light5.jpg)

A little dusty, I haven't washed it this season............
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: 7thgear on October 09, 2012, 07:57:16 AM
Beautifully modified, nice job done...  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: justgswood83 on October 09, 2012, 12:11:15 PM
I like your bike a lot. I wish I could get mine to look as good as that. I just think I'm too impatient to get everything as nice as that.
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: mab32 on October 10, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
Quote from: justgswood83 on October 09, 2012, 12:11:15 PM
I like your bike a lot. I wish I could get mine to look as good as that. I just think I'm too impatient to get everything as nice as that.

We took about nine months just pecking away at it.
Part of the time was spent waiting for parts, cutting and welding little pieces to secure the seat, tail section, building/modifying the battery box for the tiny Shorei battery.
Stripping, sanding, painting. Mocking up the parts to make sure things fit and funtioned.
Just kind of taking our time going as fast as possible, trying to get it right.
Fudging here and there.
The biggest pain was the fuel delivery system, lots of trial and error getting a free flowing system that wouldn't deprive the carbs of fuel at any speed. Hard to believe all the conveluted hoses and valves the stock bike had. Who the heck thought that up ?
Finally just went straight from the tank to the carbs via a quick disconnect and manual shutoff.
Anyway, take your time, they're never really finished anyway :)
Title: Re: Trying for a little commuter streetfighter look
Post by: peteGS on November 26, 2012, 08:31:45 AM
Hey I recognise this beast! I just joined over here the other day, nice to see some familiar names and bikes around...