Hello everyone! Yesterday I was doing a routine oil change. While putting the oil filter cap back on, the lower stud snapped while I was tightening it back on.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/jhshelton45/GS500E/P1000263.jpg)
A better view:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/jhshelton45/GS500E/P1000265.jpg)
The nut with the broken end of the stud:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/jhshelton45/GS500E/P1000270.jpg)
If this ever happens to you, DON'T PANIC. Most of the time, studs that stick out are actually right-hand turning "bolts" without the bolt head. If you have a bit of the stud hanging off like I do, you can use a good pair of vice grips to unscrew the stud.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/jhshelton45/GS500E/P1000271.jpg)
With a bit of muscle, you'll be able to twist out the broken stud:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/jhshelton45/GS500E/P1000272.jpg)
From here, you can choose to order a replacement stud online with the proper threading (a M6 stud with a 1.00 thread, length approximately an 1" to 1 1/4"), or run to your local Ace Hardware and search for a suitable replacement there. Unfortunately, I could not find a stud of the proper fit/size, so I instead opted to fashion a M6 bolt with plenty of washers. I also picked up some new cap nuts for the other studs.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/jhshelton45/GS500E/P1000273.jpg)
It may not look pretty, but it will do the job until you the find the proper hardware.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/jhshelton45/GS500E/P1000275.jpg)
On an unrelated note, I pulled off my oil pan to inspect the condition of the oil system (as well as check hardware and the gasket - anti-seized the bolts while I was at it). Strangely, I found deposits that raise a little concern for me. Not sure how the deposits made it in there, or whether or not they're debris from within the engine, so I may do an entire engine tear down just to verify some time in the future. Fortunately, the bike runs just fine.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/jhshelton45/GS500E/P1000274.jpg)
Cheers. :cheers:
Way to go. Good on ya for not panicking! :icon_eek:
Pull your left side engine cover off and inspect your rotor and stator - The coating on the rotor may be coming off-might be the source of your chips in your oil pan.
Will do. Wait, does that mean I need to drain the oil again?
This thread has it all, nuts, bolts, studs & blood! :cheers:
Good job handling the situation :thumb: Next time you change the oil swap a stud and nut back in. The stud usually breaks before you damage the threads in the case, that's why a bolt is not used there. Adfalchius did a video tutorial on this last month for anyone else in a similiar situation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aE_bntq_iE&context=C4f58b76ADvjVQa1PpcFO0reBSFTcLKZ_xk7SsbCcguwJl3UlTbR4=
-Jessie
Great job in thinking outside the box to get you out of trouble. And good for doing the anti seize job too on the bolts.
Quote from: Jared on March 31, 2012, 09:49:27 AM
Pull your left side engine cover off and inspect your rotor and stator - The coating on the rotor may be coming off-might be the source of your chips in your oil pan.
Yeah, what he said.
Quote from: Chronohunter45 on March 31, 2012, 12:13:32 PM
Will do. Wait, does that mean I need to drain the oil again?
Yep!
did this last week! i ground down the cover so i could still use the nut. your idea was simpler!lol
hey, thanks u for this post, u save me :bowdown:
same things happen to me, i fix it just like u explain and show here...
i put M6 bolt, 30mm length, with 1 washers.
thanks again :)
You are my hero sir. Thanks for the post. :cheers:
I bought my bike with an M6 bolt already in there...but because a previous owner stripped the stud out of the block and attempted to thread a bolt into the remaining threads. When that wouldn't hold oil (because at this point, the o-ring was flattened due to massive overtorquing), he used an expanding gasket sealer and never changed the oil filter again.
I'm perfectly comfortable drilling and tapping the hole for a helicoil. I'm perfectly fine with spending $40 on said helicoil kit (will probably come in handy in the future, as my M8 kit already has on the bike and several times on my car). But having my bike down for a week because I have to special order a goddamn o-ring really puts me on edge. This has successfully been a $100+, week-long oil change. Still waiting on that o-ring so I can ride the bike a second time.
And about a "snaped cranckcase quick fix?!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lil0qT7y29A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lil0qT7y29A)
It's in portuguese but you can get it by the images...that guy also has a video making a old Honda (I think) work with HHO (water!)... :cookoo:
Quote from: RossLH on July 30, 2012, 11:55:00 PM
I bought my bike with an M6 bolt already in there...but because a previous owner stripped the stud out of the block and attempted to thread a bolt into the remaining threads. When that wouldn't hold oil (because at this point, the o-ring was flattened due to massive overtorquing), he used an expanding gasket sealer and never changed the oil filter again.
I'm perfectly comfortable drilling and tapping the hole for a helicoil. I'm perfectly fine with spending $40 on said helicoil kit (will probably come in handy in the future, as my M8 kit already has on the bike and several times on my car). But having my bike down for a week because I have to special order a goddamn o-ring really puts me on edge. This has successfully been a $100+, week-long oil change. Still waiting on that o-ring so I can ride the bike a second time.
Buy a new oil filter locally like Fram for example that has an enclosed gasket and use it twice for present and next oil change. I used them a couple times in the past to avoid putting the new ones in.
Quote from: piresito on July 31, 2012, 03:30:08 AMthat guy also has a video making a old Honda (I think) work with HHO (water!)... :cookoo:
I couldn't find the video, but HHO is Brown's gas. It is the product of water and electrolysis. You can make vehicles run on it, but the process is incredibly inefficient.
Quote from: gsJack on July 31, 2012, 06:53:17 AMBuy a new oil filter locally like Fram for example that has an enclosed gasket and use it twice for present and next oil change. I used them a couple times in the past to avoid putting the new ones in.
This is very handy information! Thank you!
Quote from: RossLH on July 31, 2012, 07:21:36 AM
Quote from: piresito on July 31, 2012, 03:30:08 AMthat guy also has a video making a old Honda (I think) work with HHO (water!)... :cookoo:
I couldn't find the video, but HHO is Brown's gas. It is the product of water and electrolysis. You can make vehicles run on it, but the process is incredibly inefficient.
Here is the HHO video, and it's the same guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10dmWQk_IwM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10dmWQk_IwM)
When I learn in school to get hidrogen from water electrolysis, I went home, left overnight a 9 volt battery and in the morning had that brilliant idea of burning the content of the "Hidrogen" recipient...needless to say almost shaZam! on my pants! Baam, it burnt just like in the video, when the guy ignites those bubbles (at 5:53h)!
Anyway, I think he just made that as a proof of concept (is this the right expression?!), as you say, to inefficient and I don't think he can carry a strong enough battery to produce suficient hidrogen , and for certain, I wouldn't ride with a hidrogen bomb between my legs!