Well, I sold my 97 today...ended up with 2050 for it plus a free meal and two beers. I feel like I made out okay on it.
Here is the last image I have of her...
(http://i.imgur.com/Ek5y4.jpg)
Guy said he'd more than likely make an account on here and continue on with it...so hopefully he will.
I'm not as happy as I thought I'd be...I guess it's because I had a sort-of love/hate relationship with the bike. Oh well...now maybe I can find something I really like.
I've had mixed feelings every time I sold one of my bikes. Should I have kept it? Was that the last $50 repair that I will make in a while? Will I miss my old bike? All these go through my head when the new owner rides off. I typically dwell on it for a day, and move on.
I'm sure you made the right decision. Good luck with your new bike.
I've owned many bikes, only ever miss one: 1996 CBR600F3
-Jessie
(http://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/1996-Honda-CBR600F3-Right-Side.png)
How did you get so much money for such an old bike?
Quote from: wildcat333 on April 07, 2012, 06:18:41 PM
How did you get so much money for such an old bike?
Condition, history, etc.. I'm also in Atlanta. Apparently 8 year old Katanas go for 4 grand...absolute nonsense IMHO.
I took a last few pics before she left...
(http://i.imgur.com/eS4m6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YmsZR.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aQBGt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gD92O.jpg%5B/img%3Cbr%20/%3E%5Bimg%5Dhttp://i.imgur.com/jG3NX.jpg)
The above pictures should kind of answer how I got what I did...the bike was in pristine condition as you can see.
Silly forum only let me post 4 images...
Here's the other one..
(http://i.imgur.com/LDren.jpg)
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on April 07, 2012, 06:05:28 PM
I've owned many bikes, only ever miss one: 1996 CBR600F3
-Jessie
(http://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/1996-Honda-CBR600F3-Right-Side.png)
Nice bike! I dunno if I'm going to own an i4 yet...the Katanas around here are just so absurdly expensive. I'm not paying $4k for a Katana.
Yeah...I miss my KLR650. Considering I sold it for double what I paid...even after a set of tires, I figure that that kind of negates regrets, heh.
Quote from: Kijona on April 07, 2012, 11:00:01 PM
Silly forum only let me post 4 images...
I put 6 in "what have you done..."
Too bad you couldn't have sold it to me :dunno_black:
Quote from: adidasguy on April 08, 2012, 01:00:56 AM
Quote from: Kijona on April 07, 2012, 11:00:01 PM
Silly forum only let me post 4 images...
I put 6 in "what have you done..."
Too bad you couldn't have sold it to me :dunno_black:
Maybe it has something to do with image size? I posted 6 but only 4 showed up. I omitted one just because it was similar to the others.
I wanted to but there was no way I was going to ride all the way to Washington :( It's just not comfortable enough, for me, to do that.
:icon_lol:
Quote from: Kijona on April 08, 2012, 02:22:57 AM
I wanted to but there was no way I was going to ride all the way to Washington :( It's just not comfortable enough, for me, to do that.
I have an OEM gel seat in storage. I'd have loaned that to you for the ride :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Quote from: adidasguy on April 08, 2012, 11:18:11 AM
:icon_lol:Quote from: Kijona on April 08, 2012, 02:22:57 AM
I wanted to but there was no way I was going to ride all the way to Washington :( It's just not comfortable enough, for me, to do that.
I have an OEM gel seat in storage. I'd have loaned that to you for the ride :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Lol as if! :P
Here's what replaced it...
(http://i.imgur.com/cN1nT.jpg)
She's a tad rough around the edges...was a quart low on oil when I got to it...hopefully I rescued it. Oil light did not come on except when starting so...it should be okay. There's a bit of cam racket but that's normal...no lower-end noise. 17k miles... paid 2100 for it and it came with a brand new Continental Road Attack rear tire in addition to the one that's already on it and in very decent condition. Tire was still in its box!
Heck Yeah!!!
Mmmm nice bike!
love SV650s!
I'm not too familiar with the SV's - but is yours FI or have carburetors?
Quote from: Big Rich on April 08, 2012, 08:27:46 PM
I'm not too familiar with the SV's - but is yours FI or have carburetors?
99-2002 were carbureted. 03 and above were FI. So, naturally, the one I have is carbureted.
Honestly, you'd never know it had carburetors...the difference between the GS and the SV are just...astounding. It starts up with no choke...every time. Even stone cold. It was about 70° or so today.
The only other bike I've ever had that had so much left in it at 80MPH was the V-Strom...this SV gets up to 100 very quickly, and I honestly won't ever be going that fast for any extended time. It's nice...it cruises at 5.5K at 80mph.
You got a Curvy :thumb:
I personally like the Curvy's better than the 2nd gen S models - though prefer the naked over both.
Enjoy your ride...
Michael
Quote from: mister on April 08, 2012, 08:59:42 PM
You got a Curvy :thumb:
I personally like the Curvy's better than the 2nd gen S models - though prefer the naked over both.
Enjoy your ride...
Michael
Hey thanks. :) Yeah...the newer ones just...I dunno. They look "too modern" and don't stand out like the older ones. The tube frame is reminiscent of a Ducati and the curvy features look really different.
N models (Naked) are geared slightly lower than the S models. Also, it'll be nice to have a fairing for the slab.
Quote from: Kijona on April 08, 2012, 08:22:52 PMShe's a tad rough around the edges...was a quart low on oil when I got to it...hopefully I rescued it. Oil light did not come on except when starting so...it should be okay. There's a bit of cam racket but that's normal...no lower-end noise. 17k miles... paid 2100 for it and it came with a brand new Continental Road Attack rear tire in addition to the one that's already on it and in very decent condition. Tire was still in its box!
If that's your first 90° V-Twin, what your calling "Cam Racket"
might be Idle Hammer from the clutch basket, a common 90° Twin noise.
Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on April 08, 2012, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: Kijona on April 08, 2012, 08:22:52 PMShe's a tad rough around the edges...was a quart low on oil when I got to it...hopefully I rescued it. Oil light did not come on except when starting so...it should be okay. There's a bit of cam racket but that's normal...no lower-end noise. 17k miles... paid 2100 for it and it came with a brand new Continental Road Attack rear tire in addition to the one that's already on it and in very decent condition. Tire was still in its box!
If that's your first 90° V-Twin, what your calling "Cam Racket" might be Idle Hammer from the clutch basket, a common 90° Twin noise.
Had a DL1000. The big brother of the DL650 which had the same motor as the SV650 - and respectfully, the SV1000. I do know exactly what you're talking about, though...the DL made hella clutch noise.
Pretty sure it's the cam chain tensioner/chain/whatever noise. Seems pretty common on the older bikes. Kind of like all the weird noises our GS500's make - particularly the camshaft knocking.
like i said, great choice! maybe we can make that one transaction #2 when you want to move on and i want to move up... won't let you make any money on it the second time around though... ;)
cheers :cheers:
So, Cash... You the one who got the GS from kijona?
yea, its my first bike. i've heard great things about the gs500e, and wanted a naked bike. his was the nicest one ive seen, at least cosmetically. love the orange color. cannot believe they only used it one year... apart from pure looks, i admittedly do not know much about bikes yet, but i very much want to learn. he had a shop manual along with the manual that comes with the bike. i'm going to try to do all basic maintenance like oil changes, valve clearances, etc on this bike. i want it to be a learners bike for me both as a rider and a 'mechanic.' i really hope that basic maintenance is all i encounter, at least for the first few thousand miles... might need a new rear tire at some point somewhat soon, not sure.
i felt a little more comfortable with this bike because i went back and read the threads he'd created on it last year. he was also really helpful and seemed pretty knowledgeable about bikes in general. i had know idea what to check when you go to buy a used bike, and he gave me a few pointers.
there was another 2005 gs500f a mile from my house. still up on craigslist. only had 536 miles on it... owner said he had not really done any maintenance on it, but showed me the oil level... whatever thats worth. guy needed to sell and i could have got it for way under his asking price if i showed him the money. i felt more comfortable buying the 1998 with 12k miles from kijona who i thought i could trust and who was very helpful, over buying a newer bike that had been just sitting and sitting and had who knows what going on with it... everything is a learning experience.
unfortunately, i havent had a chance to ride it yet because its still parked at a friends place (see above photo, about an hour away in atlanta)... gotta get it this weekend when i have time.
Quote from: cashmoves on April 09, 2012, 09:23:02 AM
yea, its my first bike. i've heard great things about the gs500e, and wanted a naked bike. his was the nicest one ive seen, at least cosmetically. love the orange color. cannot believe they only used it one year... apart from pure looks, i admittedly do not know much about bikes yet, but i very much want to learn. he had a shop manual along with the manual that comes with the bike. i'm going to try to do all basic maintenance like oil changes, valve clearances, etc on this bike. i want it to be a learners bike for me both as a rider and a 'mechanic.' i really hope that basic maintenance is all i encounter, at least for the first few thousand miles... might need a new rear tire at some point somewhat soon, not sure.
i felt a little more comfortable with this bike because i went back and read the threads he'd created on it last year. he was also really helpful and seemed pretty knowledgeable about bikes in general. i had know idea what to check when you go to buy a used bike, and he gave me a few pointers.
there was another 2005 gs500f a mile from my house. still up on craigslist. only had 536 miles on it... owner said he had not really done any maintenance on it, but showed me the oil level... whatever thats worth. guy needed to sell and i could have got it for way under his asking price if i showed him the money. i felt more comfortable buying the 1998 with 12k miles from kijona who i thought i could trust and who was very helpful, over buying a newer bike that had been just sitting and sitting and had who knows what going on with it... everything is a learning experience.
unfortunately, i havent had a chance to ride it yet because its still parked at a friends place (see above photo, about an hour away in atlanta)... gotta get it this weekend when i have time.
Well it's all a learning experience my friend. I did a whole bunch of research on the GS500's, mainly came from here, before I ever even purchased one. You can find some of my first posts from way back when I was looking at some ragged out piece of junk, heh. I've come a long way since then.
Since this is easier than a text message, I'll tell you a few things you need to have when you go to change the oil. First thing is some M14
aluminum crush washers. You'll want to replace them each time you change the oil. Not only does it give you somewhat of a buffer from over-tightening the drain plug, it also is what mostly seals the head of the bolt to the oil pan. PepBoys and a few others carry a package of 4 for 3.99. I believe AutoZone has the same ones for the same price but don't quote me. You'll also want to remove the old one beforehand, which can be done a variety of ways but the best way I found was to set the bolt, head down, on the ground and use a medium flatblade screwdriver to cut through the washer to the head of the bolt. You just use a hammer or some other heavy implement and tap the butt of the screwdriver until it cuts through the aluminum. It's fairly soft so it shouldn't require too much effort. Then from there you can just peel it away. Just be sure you don't damage the threads on the bolt.
Everything else about changing the oil, checking the valves, etc. is covered many times over by several members here. Videos/pictures/text, the whole nine yards.
Edit: Or you might get lucky and the old crush washer is just loosely on there and you can unscrew it. Or it might just fall right off...I don't know what you'll end up with with the washer I used. Hard to say.
dammit man, you should have sold that fairing to me!
Quote from: Funderb on April 09, 2012, 11:29:28 AM
dammit man, you should have sold that fairing to me!
Sorry Charley...I don't think the bike is nearly as appealing without it. :(
yea, the fairing makes the bike as far as im concerned...
Depends what you want to do yourself.
For valve clearance adjustments, I highly recommend one of these tools:
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0017
You will also need a full set of metric sockets and box end wrenches.
I'm sure the list goes on and on...
Quote from: bombsquad83 on April 09, 2012, 12:21:11 PM
Depends what you want to do yourself.
For valve clearance adjustments, I highly recommend one of these tools:
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0017
You will also need a full set of metric sockets and box end wrenches.
I'm sure the list goes on and on...
great, thank you!
Well I took a look under the tank on the SV today...whew.
Somebody has neglected this bike pretty bad. Looks like it sat out in the rain at least once. It also looks like somebody might've taken it off-road. There was all kind of mud and crap on the airbox. Airfilter was filthy. Thankfully there was nothing inside the airbox.
I've got some work to do.
Bryan, FYI there's a very decent set of sockets from Autozone that carry a lifetime warranty. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Duralast-50-pcs-3-8-in-drive-SAE-and-metric-ratchet-and-socket-set/_/N-25k6Z1z141xg?itemIdentifier=914104_0_0_
It's a tad expensive but the quality of the tools is on par with Craftsman so it's not a bad deal. The deep-well sockets will come in handy.
Bryan, let me know when you want to change the oil on the GS. I'll make a trip down there and give you a hand. Might even let you ride my SV! :)
In other news...encountered a new problem. The chain on the SV was in pretty rough shape when I was looking at it but then I realized it's the original chain AND I think somebody cut links out of it because it was so stretched out. The front sprocket was dry as a bone...not a drop of lube anywhere on it, and the teeth are all mangled. Uggghhhh...people don't need to own bikes if they can't even do a simple job like lubing the chain every few hundred miles.
Quote from: Kijona on April 09, 2012, 09:57:08 PM
Bryan, let me know when you want to change the oil on the GS. I'll make a trip down there and give you a hand. Might even let you ride my SV! :)
In other news...encountered a new problem. The chain on the SV was in pretty rough shape when I was looking at it but then I realized it's the original chain AND I think somebody cut links out of it because it was so stretched out. The front sprocket was dry as a bone...not a drop of lube anywhere on it, and the teeth are all mangled. Uggghhhh...people don't need to own bikes if they can't even do a simple job like lubing the chain every few hundred miles.
will do! i would definitely appreciate a helping hand with that kind of stuff. i think when i finally get the bike back here, im just going to clean and lube the chain, check the battery, tire pressure... just kind of go through the basic inspection stuff. might want to change the oil to 20w50 in a couple weeks...
as for the SV yikes! 17k miles and chain so stretched they cut links out? is that a sign that they probably rode it really hard while also not keeping chain maintenance up? are you gonna have to buy and install an all new chain? looks like you can buy kits for ~ $160.
Quote from: cashmoves on April 10, 2012, 06:18:28 AM
Quote from: Kijona on April 09, 2012, 09:57:08 PM
Bryan, let me know when you want to change the oil on the GS. I'll make a trip down there and give you a hand. Might even let you ride my SV! :)
In other news...encountered a new problem. The chain on the SV was in pretty rough shape when I was looking at it but then I realized it's the original chain AND I think somebody cut links out of it because it was so stretched out. The front sprocket was dry as a bone...not a drop of lube anywhere on it, and the teeth are all mangled. Uggghhhh...people don't need to own bikes if they can't even do a simple job like lubing the chain every few hundred miles.
will do! i would definitely appreciate a helping hand with that kind of stuff. i think when i finally get the bike back here, im just going to clean and lube the chain, check the battery, tire pressure... just kind of go through the basic inspection stuff. might want to change the oil to 20w50 in a couple weeks...
as for the SV yikes! 17k miles and chain so stretched they cut links out? is that a sign that they probably rode it really hard while also not keeping chain maintenance up? are you gonna have to buy and install an all new chain? looks like you can buy kits for ~ $160.
Chains stretch over time regardless. What tears up the sprockets is the chain being too tight, not enough lube, incorrect lube, etc. The chain had started "fretting" as I've heard it called which is where a sort-of red dust, presumably rust, begins to form on the chain from being neglected.
What's scary is the adjuster is all the way to the front and the rear sprocket is smaller than stock. Meaning the overall chain length has been shortened drastically. It must have been stretched way far out of spec. Either that or the numbskull that cut the lengths cut one too many out.
One link really makes a huge difference.
Quote from: dropitlow88 on April 10, 2012, 04:24:26 PM
One link really makes a huge difference.
True, but I think they took more than one out. I haven't counted the links yet but the adjuster is ALL the way forward, and it's still a little tight, and it even has a smaller rear sprocket.
I figured out another thing they did...replaced the sprocket recently but did not replace the chain NOR the other sprocket. So now I have a relatively new sprocket that's all beat to hell, a front sprocket that looks like it went through the "warp" effect on Photoshop, and a chain that's about to break. UGH!
Quote from: Kijona on April 11, 2012, 04:12:49 PM
Quote from: dropitlow88 on April 10, 2012, 04:24:26 PM
One link really makes a huge difference.
True, but I think they took more than one out. I haven't counted the links yet but the adjuster is ALL the way forward, and it's still a little tight, and it even has a smaller rear sprocket.
I figured out another thing they did...replaced the sprocket recently but did not replace the chain NOR the other sprocket. So now I have a relatively new sprocket that's all beat to hell, a front sprocket that looks like it went through the "warp" effect on Photoshop, and a chain that's about to break. UGH!
lol, i'm going through the exact same thing on my gs. Poor PO maintenance...
Quote from: dropitlow88 on April 11, 2012, 04:42:03 PM
Quote from: Kijona on April 11, 2012, 04:12:49 PM
Quote from: dropitlow88 on April 10, 2012, 04:24:26 PM
One link really makes a huge difference.
True, but I think they took more than one out. I haven't counted the links yet but the adjuster is ALL the way forward, and it's still a little tight, and it even has a smaller rear sprocket.
I figured out another thing they did...replaced the sprocket recently but did not replace the chain NOR the other sprocket. So now I have a relatively new sprocket that's all beat to hell, a front sprocket that looks like it went through the "warp" effect on Photoshop, and a chain that's about to break. UGH!
lol, i'm going through the exact same thing on my gs. Poor PO maintenance...
It makes me wonder whether people know that bikes aren't like cars - they require a lot of maintenance. Do they know and just don't care or are they just ignorant?
I think it's a combination of both. Mine will be fixed soon, partial thanks to adidas for my rear sprocket. I found a lightly used DID chain on ebay for $25 shipped! What a huge differance. No more drivetrain backlash lol
Quote from: dropitlow88 on April 13, 2012, 04:11:49 PM
I think it's a combination of both. Mine will be fixed soon, partial thanks to adidas for my rear sprocket. I found a lightly used DID chain on ebay for $25 shipped! What a huge differance. No more drivetrain backlash lol
I got a deal on a Bikemaster O-Ring chain and two JT Sprockets from eBay for $100.
I replaced the "Made in China" no-name chain that came on my GS with a bikemaster chain...very high quality from what I can tell, and made in Japan not CHINA!
Quote from: Kijona on April 13, 2012, 03:39:49 PM
It makes me wonder whether people know that bikes aren't like cars - they require a lot of maintenance. Do they know and just don't care or are they just ignorant?
I think its a little from column A and a little from column B :icon_lol:
Quote from: adidasguy on April 08, 2012, 11:18:11 AM
:icon_lol:Quote from: Kijona on April 08, 2012, 02:22:57 AM
I wanted to but there was no way I was going to ride all the way to Washington :( It's just not comfortable enough, for me, to do that.
I have an OEM gel seat in storage. I'd have loaned that to you for the ride :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
What year? Pre or post? Wait...is that Kat talk? O0
Quote from: average on April 13, 2012, 06:43:36 PM
Quote from: adidasguy on April 08, 2012, 11:18:11 AM
:icon_lol:Quote from: Kijona on April 08, 2012, 02:22:57 AM
I wanted to but there was no way I was going to ride all the way to Washington :( It's just not comfortable enough, for me, to do that.
I have an OEM gel seat in storage. I'd have loaned that to you for the ride :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
What year? Pre or post? Wait...is that Kat talk? O0
Lol, Adidas wanted me to ride my little 97 all the way from Atlanta to WA so he could buy it from me.
Well I got my new chain and sprockets installed. Unfortunately I don't have a swingarm stand so I had to prop the bike up on its sidestand in order to do the work.
I think all in all it took 8hrs, every curse word in the dictionary and some that aren't, a broken flashlight, and a shot of tequila.
Part of why it took so damn long is because there is a 1.25" nut that holds the front sprocket on. I spent almost an hour searching through all my tools and finally found it. I didn't have a 32mm (had a 36mm though d'oh), which is what it requires, but thankfully the 1.25" actually fits better.
All in all, I'm better for it. Now I know how to correctly press a master link. I'd never done it before and I was really scared of A) breaking Adidasguy's tool he so generously loaned me and B) breaking the master link or pressing it too far and binding it.
Good thing is now I won't have to worry about it for a LONG time. I'm religious about chain care...almost obsessive, so, needless to say my chains stay clean and lubed. ;)
Bikemaster 525 o-ring chain and two JT sprockets from eBay...only cost me $110 with shipping. Not bad at all.
Oh, and yeah, I was mistaken...they didn't remove any links. I was looking at the adjustment lines incorrectly. However, the chain was stretched beyond belief.
It was also so worn that I could literally almost touch both ends together laterally once I had it off. Upon closer inspection, I discovered most of the rollers had gone dry because the o-rings had disintegrated and/or flattened out and cracked.
They really use 525s on a 650 twin? Seems a little bit of an overkill. I would have thought a 520 would be more than enough and cheaper :dunno_black:
Quote from: Twisted on April 16, 2012, 11:00:31 PM
They really use 525s on a 650 twin? Seems a little bit of an overkill. I would have thought a 520 would be more than enough and cheaper :dunno_black:
Yeah but they also put down some pretty significant torque. 520 PROBABLY would do the trick but...who knows?
Also...why does it need a 1 and a quarter (32mm) nut to hold the freaking counter sprocket on...WITH a locking washer? It's got teeth for a reason...the little clip system works just fine on our GS's. :dunno_black:
Oh well! At least if 525 is overkill, that means the chain should last longer.
In Aust they also use a 525 for 1000 vstroms. Guy at work is going to a 530 with a one tooth drop to 16 on the front and two up to 43 on the rear do it is better around town.
Michael
Quote from: mister on April 17, 2012, 03:07:20 PM
In Aust they also use a 525 for 1000 vstroms. Guy at work is going to a 530 with a one tooth drop to 16 on the front and two up to 43 on the rear do it is better around town.
Michael
My DL1000 'Strom had a 525 EK chain on it that lasted almost 25000 miles. Go figure.