Bike has been having some serious issues lately, not running well at all after sustaining high RPMs. Use some Seafoam and that seemed to fix it entirely, but its back at it now. Basically massive loss of power, second the clutch is in it dies. Dad has a couple mechanic friends and my roommate had actually same problem on his GS500, all say carbs is likely culprit.
They are going to help me do a large service in a couple weeks, most notably including the carbs. I also need to replace the battery and do an oil change. Here is what I have picked out, please let me know ASAP as I will need to order ASAP :D.
Anything else I am missing except the obvious oil I can get at Autozone?
PARTS & QUESTIONS
- Scorpion AGM YT10L-A2 12v Battery (http://www.batterystuff.com/powersports-batteries/sYT10L-A2.html): I was looking at that Shorai but I need cold-weather starts here in Washington.
- When I talked to a guy at a shop about replacing my battery cables he said thats normally done at battery replacement. Looks to be inaccurate but I would like to replace mine, I had to replace the clamps and could not find anything standard, they are big bulky and a PITA to work with. Can't find the part? This obviously not as necessary for the upcoming service.
- NGK (4929) DPR8EA-9 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CSGX9C/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&psc=1) x 2
- I was advised to replace the spark plug wiring as well, but cant seem to find what I need to buy for that... any ideas?
- K & N Oil Filter (http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/43/53/174/735/-/-/229176/K-%26-N-Oil-Filter-2004-Suzuki-GS500F-)
- The problem last weekend went away by swapping to reserve line, makes me suspicious something is clogged somewhere. Is there any reason to replace the fuel lines, or does just watering them out and blowing dry get the job done just fine?
Hmmmm...... Not far from West Seattle are you? I have Shorai in all 4 of my GS500's. Started no problems all winter this year even when below freezing. The 14a one already has 30% more power than standard battery so even if it is 30% down when 10 degrees, that's still more power than a standard 9ah battery (which will also be down on power when below freezing).
Just be sure the battery you get has the terminals in the right place and is no bigger than your present battery.
Spark plugs sound right.
Filter will work. I've been told by guys here at the Suzuki Owners Club that OEM oil filters are the best choice. Run over to Aurora Suzuki and get one. You can get your plugs there, too. You shouldn't need to replace battery wires. Just clean them and apply some contact cleaner. They won't corrode anymore with a sealed battery or a Shorai.
Maybe your loss of power is due to dirt in the in-tank filter screen?
Come over to West Seattle Saturday if you want to do some GS500 wrenching.
I get most stuff at Aurora Suzuki. Maybe a few cents more. But I'm sure I have the right stuff - they know bikes better than Autozone - and if we don't support our local dealers, soon we won't have any. RMC closed. A couple other dealers closed in the past 6 months.
Quote from: adidasguy on April 16, 2012, 10:02:04 PM
Hmmmm...... Not far from West Seattle are you? I have Shorai in all 4 of my GS500's. Started no problems all winter this year even when below freezing. The 14a one already has 30% more power than standard battery so even if it is 30% down when 10 degrees, that's still more power than a standard 9ah battery (which will also be down on power when below freezing).
Just be sure the battery you get has the terminals in the right place and is no bigger than your present battery.
Spark plugs sound right.
I've been told by guys here at the Suzuki Owners Club that OEM oil filters are the best choice. Run over to Aurora Suzuki and get one. You can get your plugs there, too. You shouldn't need to replace battery wires. Just clean them and apply some contact cleaner. They won't corrode anymore with a sealed battery or a Shorai.
Maybe your loss of power is due to dirt in the in-tank filter screen?
Come over to West Seattle Saturday if you want to do some GS500 wrenching.
I get most stuff at Aurora Suzuki. Maybe a few cents more. But I'm sure I have the right stuff - they know bikes better than Autozone - and if we don't support our local dealers, soon we won't have any. RMC closed. A couple other dealers closed in the past 6 months.
Oh my no idea RMC closed, what a shame. Haven't been to the dealer in Seattle, I am on the eastside. I don't mind the guys in Bellevue but they were not incredibly helpful and their attempt to distance themselves from everything that is not labeled Ducati is disappointing.
Actually I take that back, I think I did go to the one in Seattle. I try to avoid Seattle unless I am on my bike (parking + traffic), hard to do in this condition its in! I will swap to the OEM filter.
Curious about the shorai, seems complaints online were due to cold-starts, I have to park outside so it is a concern. However now that I am in the condo also plugging the battery into a tender means removing the battery, kind of a pain in the butt to do regularly.
As for the cables I had to replace the connectors with these bulky ones from Home Depot that do the trick, but they are much too thick and I have to pry the nut up so that the screw will thread in (despite many attempts I gave up on finding different connectors, new bolts or screws!!!).
Not sure I am sold on the Shorai yet.
Battery tender? What is that? Don't need one.
Shorai out of the box - sitting in the bike cave for 9 months - started the bike better than the OEM battery. Never used a battery tender. I accidentally left Phenix on all night (24 hours) and drained it down to 1.7 volts. Jumpered it to Suzi with baby jumper clips. After 5 minutes it was good to go. These things have tremendous recovery, fast charging and can sit for a year without charging.
Mind you, I'm only speaking from experience, not from the old reviews.
Do check out Aurora Suzuki. They have parking in the back. See if Joe is at the parts counter. He really knows GS500's because of me. Well, they all do now at the parts counter. Plus they have free (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/popcorn_smiley.gif)
Ask for the West Seattle GS500 Club discount (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/minicat-3.gif)
I have all the cables, starter solenoids, etc. that you would need. That's the West Seattle Bike Cave!
Is the bike cave walls or a carport :-X?
How does one go about purchasing some of those parts? My main concern is spark plug wiring, I am not that mechanical but I should have no problem running other cabling myself. How does one go purchasing some parts from the bike cave :cookoo:?
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Oh and what about fuel lines? Part of me assumes a good rinse and dry would be like new, but part of me also feels that its a small investment and if the tank is off why not replace them?
Stop over and pick out what you need. I have coils (plug wire comes attached), battery cables. No spare fuel line but Aurora will give you the right stuff.
If you can ride over - that's even better.
Bike Cave: It has bikes and bike parts. It has walls AND a carport for extra bikes.
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PS: It has one of these for juices and beers:
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Nice, my concern is those walls, even if thin and uninsulated are keeping it just warm enough to not be a problem. Charging a battery is a pain, but at least its something I can do. If the battery won't start in the cold I am just out of luck :dunno_black:. I kind of wait to get the Shorai just in case, take the risk, another $50 battery won't put me into the poor house if I have to follow up due to cold-start problems.
Thanks for the offer, I will have to come by sometime once its in free-way condition again. I did enough sitting and pushing along I-90 to last me a lifetime two weekends ago >:(.
If you are talking about parking in the cold: they park both inside and out.
Your call on a battery. I'm just saying I had no problems at all this past winter and I never use a battery tender.
If you're always taking out your battery in the winter (or anytime) to keep it charged: is it really a battery?
Awesome thanks.
Is it the 14AH I need: Shorai Lithium 14 AH PBEq 12 Volt LiFePO4 ATV and Motorcycle Battery (- +) (http://www.batterystuff.com/powersports-batteries/LFX14L1-BS12.html). I was thinking $100, $150 is ahhh lol.
Realized I need fuel line for Phenix to put the gas tank on. Didn't want to use used stuff and didn't have enough new. Ordered 6' of 1/4 and 5/16 from Aurora Suzuki so I'll have it by Friday. I would have picked it up but that's all I need today. You should drop in there. Those guys are really awesome and helpful. Always ask for the West Seattle GS500 Club discount :icon_lol:
Joe knows me best. Then there's Dan and Justin. All good guys.
Nice Redhook you got in your fridge! The other brewery is in Portsmouth, NH - about 10 miles from me!
Does the AH matter on the battery? Manual says 11AH but the only Shorai in stock is 14AH, and I swear I read some people saying they got the 14AH as an upgrade to a lower AH?
Sounds like the spark plugs wire directly to the coils and that setup is $108 a piece and the shop said no reason to replace those.
Stock I recall is 11ah, maybe 10ah.
Higher Amp Hours (ah) is more power for starting. Therefore, if the battery is a little tired when frozen, you still have enough power. That is, lets say it is frozen and power drops by 25%. If you start with 14ah, you have more than 10ah cranking power where a 10ah would be down to 7. If that makes sense.
The higher the rating the more power you have. I have the 14ah Shorai's in 4 bikes. I wouldn't have anything else. I appreciate it with all the testing I've done on Phenix even before I got the motor to run and do some recharging of the battery.
Bike sparky wires are not the same as cars. Bikes last almost forever. I have a pile coils if you want to replace them but I maybe only heard once of a bad coil/wire on a GS500.
What you must do on a car is not necessarily the same things you need to do for a bike.
Quote from: Vova on April 16, 2012, 09:43:20 PM
- NGK (4929) DPR8EA-9 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CSGX9C/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&psc=1) x 2
I would never bother putting a standard plug in anything, if there was an Iridium equivalent for it NGK DPR8EIX-9 Iridium IX Spark Plug (http://www.amazon.com/NGK-DPR8EIX-9-Iridium-Spark-Plug/dp/B000CSGWZC/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1334712009&sr=1-1) :dunno_black:
Ok thanks everyone. Final shopping list follows. I called the Aurora Suzuki guys a couple times today and they were very helpful, but the only things they have that I need for this upcoming service would be the filter and plugs (and I did not even ask about those). Not worth the trek into Seattle, but will be heading out there for some of the later fixes like cables and such.
- Shorai Lithium 14 AH PBEq 12 Volt LiFePO4 ATV and Motorcycle Battery (- +)
- NGK (2202) DPR8EIX-9 Iridium IX Spark Plug, Pack of 1 x 2
- Suzuki OEM Oil Filter (do I need an o-ring too?)- actually going to see if dad can pick this up at Aurora instead of buying online
- Misc. 10W40 Oil
1) Fuel lines will be cleaned and inspected for cracks or wear prior to replacement. After battery is resolved will worry about wiring, though if I am not removing battery constantly dealing with my bulky connectors will not be a PITA anymore :D.
2) Will run seafoam in the oil on ride over to my dad's buddy's house for the oil change (been running it in the gas tank for a while now).
3) Carbs will get cleaned, oil will get changed, spark plugs replaced.
4) Will inspect tires, sprocket, chain and brake fluid. Looks like in service manual my brake fluid and lines should be replaced? Will worry about that later as braking has not been a problem (well, lack of braking anyway hah).
Filter should come with o-ring. Just be sure when you order it. Most do because you should always replace the o-ring with the filter.
Good choice on battery. You can throw away that battery tender (or keep it just in case you leave your bike on PARK for a few days.)
When you decide to replace brake lines, go stainless braided lines.
Looking forward to your visit to the bike cave. If you have time, you can drive your car over Saturday for a special event (if your bike is not up to the trip).
Pick up whatever you can at Aurora. They're really great guys. Build a relationship with them. I ask questions to the service guys a lot, and the parts guys. Really worth it having knowledgeable people you can ask that are local. Rather than saving a dollar here and there and waiting for orders in the mail, I go there. Its worth having them to guide me to the right parts and help me get the correct parts. Like I say - support your local dealer or soon you won't have a local dealer.
They will have the plugs, filter and maybe the battery. They always tell me they will price match. Don't be afraid to tell them you can get it cheaper elsewhere - they work with you for the best price.