So, I plan to get a 2012 Triumph Bonneville SE sometime in the next couple months. The two colors I am considering are Phantom Black and Intense Orange.
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/224834_481790415181567_382208567_n.jpg)
I like both, alot, but after considering the gear I was going to buy, I am not sure which color to choose. I was planning on this suit
(http://image.motorcyclistonline.com/f/12498919+w750+st0/122_0811_01_z+aerostich_hi_viz_lime_yellow_roadcrafter_suit+side_view.jpg)
Clearly I am not trying to look like a badass out on the road, but if I got the orange bike and that particular suit....I would look like a clown. I dont care a lot about how I look...but that is just too much haha.
So, my question is, what do you think would serve me better as far as visibility? A bright orange bike with black suit, or hivis suit with black bike?
I realize hivis only does a little bit for you....but the odds are so far against us out the road, every little bit helps.
hi=vis suit with a black bike
Quote from: spokes100 on June 17, 2012, 04:45:31 PM
hi=vis suit with a black bike
This is what I was thinking at first, but isnt the bike the largest part of what someone sees, rather than the rider?
the bike is large but you and your helmet and upper body stick up higher than the bike, nonetheless a lot of what a person sees is the background so if you stick out from the background they see you. I used to drive tractor trailer and people that pull out in front of trucks always say they didn't see them because they are mostly neutral colors and they blend in to the background. if you can stand to wear a yellow helmet that helps too.
A bright bike is more likely to be seen when parked (so nobody backs into it).
While I haven't seen any actual studies as to what's noticed more, I've always thought a bright helmet is best. It's the highest part of the bike / rider, and it's worn all the time (assuming you are ATGATT) .
Spokes beat me to it......
I think it was that euro study, but you're something like 35% less likely to be hit if you are wearing a white helmet.
Answer: whatever makes you look like the bike cops in your area.
Cops wear white helmets. People sees bikes they just don't care. But when they see a white helmet they think Cop long enough to make them pause, even if they then realize not a cop.
Contrast is what makes things 'stand out'... For instance, a yellow sign with a black border is more noticeable than the same sign in a solid yellow...
Also, a brightly colored bike is only bright from the side view, its color doesn't really show up to other drivers from the front or rear when going down the road... I have a bright yellow bike and people still pull out in front of me just as much as my buddy on his black bike.
- Bboy
I have a white helmet and others riding in a group with me said they could see where I was in their mirrors easier when compared to the darker helmets. I also have a white bike and lighter colored jacket. Partly because I wanted to stay cool in heat of summer, but the visibility is a bonus. Now I wonder why I ever wore black. It looks cool, but it's so hot in traffic and nobody could see me. I do still were a black jacket sometimes when it's cooler out, but the white helmet stays.
I also ride a certain way in traffic. Instead of staying in one position in my lane, I shift around within my lane and also tap my breaks when I'm slowing. It seems to keep people off my tail and lets them know I am not an empty space on the road just because they can see through me. As for people turning left from the opposite lane, just look out for those. A bike is least visible from the front and back no matter what you do. Assume they can't see you.
I don't have the study off hand but I pasted and copied one over here talking about how hi-vis is better. Which is why you will see many fire departments are going from red engines to hi-vis engines.
Mary
I wear one of these now:
(http://www.aplpowersports.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/th/HH-113010603-08.jpg)
(shoei rf1100)
I rekkon bright clothing helps you stand out but, the rule i stick to is ride as if no one can see you and avoid it all. I have a black bike and jacket and I ride as if I'm not seen and can count close calls I've had on one hand, and yes I have both hands lol.
Quote from: NesquikNinja on June 17, 2012, 04:39:04 PM
So, I plan to get a 2012 Triumph Bonneville SE sometime in the next couple months. The two colors I am considering are Phantom Black and Intense Orange.
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/224834_481790415181567_382208567_n.jpg)
I like both, alot, but after considering the gear I was going to buy, I am not sure which color to choose. I was planning on this suit
(http://image.motorcyclistonline.com/f/12498919+w750+st0/122_0811_01_z+aerostich_hi_viz_lime_yellow_roadcrafter_suit+side_view.jpg)
Clearly I am not trying to look like a badass out on the road, but if I got the orange bike and that particular suit....I would look like a clown. I dont care a lot about how I look...but that is just too much haha.
So, my question is, what do you think would serve me better as far as visibility? A bright orange bike with black suit, or hivis suit with black bike?
I realize hivis only does a little bit for you....but the odds are so far against us out the road, every little bit helps.
The orange is sexier, that's for sure. :icon_twisted:
One of the reasons they now put taillights in the rear window of vehicles is because that is the height people are looking at while driving, so I say clothing/helmet color is more important than bike color. You could always get the orange Trumpet and wear an orange Icon milspec vest
For daily riding I wear my black jacket and silver helmet, because even with hi-vis stuff your basically invisible to idiot drivers anyway, and I keep my eyes scanning the road ahead.
When it gets foggy/rainy I wear hi-vis pants and raincoat over my black jacket, just so that I could be seen in the dim, but I still drive like I'm invisible.
I agree with mister on this, that unless you wear something that makes someone look twice (police! blinky-lights! bikini!) you're basically going to be invisible anyway and I always drive like no-one sees me.
IMHO I would go with whatever you prefer and forget the hi-vis stuff unless you really want it. If you like the orange bike, get the orange bike! :icon_mrgreen:
I have that suit. I think it helps but there are no guarantees. Other riders have commented that it does really stand out.
In the end the most important piece of safety gear is the thing you put inside your helmet.
So true ^^
So, If I get the orange one, is the bonus of the hi-vis suit worth looking like a clown? Again, Im not trying to be a BA....I stay far from half helmets and leather vests...
Ha... I googled orange motorcycle suit and found this....
http://technabob.com/blog/2011/12/17/safety-sphere-motorcycle-airbag-jacket/
What if you get the orange bike you seem to like more, and then get whatever jacket or suit makes you feel like a BA. Just always remember to ride like nobody can see you, because you could put on flashing lights and the brightest day-glo gear and there is still some teenager texting and driving.
They do make helmets with that orange color scheme that are pretty visible.... I have this one with the orange and black stripe... http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/38/19653/ITEM/SparX-S-07-Stryder-Helmet.aspx
That orange suit is the bombdiggity.
I think Ill just get the orange bike with a yellow helmet adn the hi vis yellow suit.
How could you miss that?
:woohoo:
Quote from: NesquikNinja on June 18, 2012, 12:26:30 PM
That orange suit is the bombdiggity.
I think Ill just get the orange bike with a yellow helmet adn the hi vis yellow suit.
How could you miss that?
:woohoo:
the bike color won't matter at all. most crashes are head on's. your frontal area has very little definition besides the head light, and that appears to be A CAR at a very far distance to most car drivers, instead of a bike. the headlight obscurs your hi-vis helmet and jacket with it's brightness.
look into GLOVES in hi-vis, and a huge checker board pattern helmet. or zebra stripes. or anything with an unnatural pattern.
the safest, most important thing you can do to prevent collisions is:
reduce your speed
anticipate other drivers' actions
the rest is marketing.
Ride smart. You could put an ambulance siren on your white helmet and have a suit that lights up like the Vegas strip and drivers will still not see you and cut you off, move into your lane, pull out in front of you, etc.
Quote from: NesquikNinja on June 18, 2012, 11:37:06 AM
So, If I get the orange one, is the bonus of the hi-vis suit worth looking like a clown? Again, Im not trying to be a BA....I stay far from half helmets and leather vests...
If my hi-viz Roadcrafter ever wears out (it's about 12 years old with one trip back to Aerostich to replace the main zipper and a few other bits), I'd buy another one just like it. That said, in the real world where people vote with their wallet, it's unusual to see much hi-viz riding gear, except around military bases which require reflective over vests.
My wife has told me she thinks it's hideous, but she's glad I wear it. I don't give it much thought. I accept that the BA leather tasseled Harley guys may be laughing at me. Until it starts to rain . . .
that pump up bom diggety fresh orange suit crash unit life saver thing... :icon_rolleyes:
looks like some good planning.... i wanna see a real life one though ... not dang CGI ...
but .... what if old mate there was right up the top of a mountain rd or beside a deep gorge when that ball suit was needed.... that could be a long way to roll/bump/career down eh! :icon_eek:
I'm more into statistics i.e what is really happening versus opinion but that's me.
Motorcycle rider conspicuity and crash related injury: case-control study.
Wells S, Mullin B, Norton R, Langley J, Connor J, Lay-Yee R, Jackson R.
Source
Section of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, School of Population Health, Private Bag 92019, University of Auckland, Grafton Road, Auckland 1, New Zealand. s.wells@auckland.ac.nz
Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
To investigate whether the risk of motorcycle crash related injuries is associated with the conspicuity of the driver or vehicle.
DESIGN:
Population based case-control study.
SETTING:
Auckland region of New Zealand from February 1993 to February 1996.
PARTICIPANTS:
463 motorcycle drivers (cases) involved in crashes leading to hospital treatment or death; 1233 motorcycle drivers (controls) recruited from randomly selected roadside survey sites.
MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:
Estimates of relative risk of motorcycle crash related injury and population attributable risk associated with conspicuity measures, including the use of reflective or fluorescent clothing, headlight operation, and colour of helmet, clothing, and motorcycle.
RESULTS:
Crash related injuries occurred mainly in urban zones with 50 km/h speed limit (66%), during the day (63%), and in fine weather (72%). After adjustment for potential confounders, drivers wearing any reflective or fluorescent clothing had a 37% lower risk (multivariate odds ratio 0.63, 95% confidence interval 0.42 to 0.94) than other drivers. Compared with wearing a black helmet, use of a white helmet was associated with a 24% lower risk (multivariate odds ratio 0.76, 0.57 to 0.99). Self reported light coloured helmet versus dark coloured helmet was associated with a 19% lower risk. Three quarters of motorcycle riders had their headlight turned on during the day, and this was associated with a 27% lower risk (multivariate odds ratio 0.73, 0.53 to 1.00). No association occurred between risk and the frontal colour of drivers' clothing or motorcycle. If these odds ratios are unconfounded, the population attributable risks are 33% for wearing no reflective or fluorescent clothing, 18% for a non-white helmet, 11% for a dark coloured helmet, and 7% for no daytime headlight operation.
CONCLUSIONS:
Low conspicuity may increase the risk of motorcycle crash related injury. Increasing the use of reflective or fluorescent clothing, white or light coloured helmets, and daytime headlights are simple, cheap interventions that could considerably reduce motorcycle crash related injury and death.
This is just a quick search I'm sure if I sat down and really wanted to do a lit review I could find more. But, I've got other things to research. If you want the whole article let me know I'll PM it to you.
Mary
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on June 20, 2012, 07:08:12 AM
I'm more into statistics i.e what is really happening versus opinion but that's me. . . .
Good find. Full text of study report can be found here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC387473/pdf/bmj32800857.pdf
HiViz, Sirens and Brightly Flashing lights didn't help this guy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynXnGcOn4Uc
It's not about being seen. It's about making the vehicle Care that they saw you.
Just like cars pull out in front of cyclists - they don't care cause he will stop.
They pull in front of trucks cause they don't want to get held up.
Motorbikes.... they just don't care, he'll move, stop, whatever.
It wearing the hiviz makes you warm and fuzzy inside then wear it. Just don't think you can ride switched off like cagers drive and the hiviz will protect you. Ride like they cannot see you. That is, do NOT put yourself into dangerous positions.
Michael
Quote from: mister on June 20, 2012, 12:06:18 PM
HiViz, Sirens and Brightly Flashing lights didn't help this guy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynXnGcOn4Uc
It's not about being seen. It's about making the vehicle Care that they saw you.
Just like cars pull out in front of cyclists - they don't care cause he will stop.
They pull in front of trucks cause they don't want to get held up.
Motorbikes.... they just don't care, he'll move, stop, whatever.
It wearing the hiviz makes you warm and fuzzy inside then wear it. Just don't think you can ride switched off like cagers drive and the hiviz will protect you. Ride like they cannot see you. That is, do NOT put yourself into dangerous positions.
Michael
THIS ! :thumb:
I think for someone to be completely sided one way or the other on this, is only to say that they are being absent minded. Wearing hi-vis isn't safety net by any means, and no one is saying that it is or that wearing it will give reason to drive 'less safely.' The fact is, a dangerous situation can be completely avoided and never even be acknowledged to have existed if another driver saw you just one second earlier. Wearing Hi-vis will not hurt you, and will certainly help your odds.
Its like those people whose reason for not wearing a helmet is 'If I go down on my bike, I'll be in the hospital or worse regardless of what I'm wearing' - and most of us here know thats a hunk of bull just from seeing racers go down in full gear and come back up without a scratch. But, given there are a lot of variables that are in play, there is a grain of truth to what they say, that view doesn't just come from nowhere... but back to the topic - It doesn't matter how good of a driver you are, you won't avoid EVERY dangerous situation because you simply are not in control of everyone else's driving.
The proof is there that being more visible is SAFER, because it lowers the chance of a dangerous situation even coming to sight (no pun intended). It is always up to you how much risk you are willing to take on, and a motorcycle simply invites more to start off with. These are all still just statistics that dictate the conversation, but its also still a matter of chance and circumstances that are continually changing, but some of which you CAN change by altering the odds.
- Bboy
The prob with any stats that show less motorcycle stuff with hi viz is, the person who opts for hi viz rides a certain way to begin with. You don't see hi viz wearers riding like dickheads.
Michael
Quote from: Janx101 on June 19, 2012, 07:43:55 PM
that pump up bom diggety fresh orange suit crash unit life saver thing... :icon_rolleyes:
looks like some good planning.... i wanna see a real life one though ... not dang CGI ...
but .... what if old mate there was right up the top of a mountain rd or beside a deep gorge when that ball suit was needed.... that could be a long way to roll/bump/career down eh! :icon_eek:
I haven't seen an airbag equipped suit or jacket that will turn you into a ball, but I know that AlpineStars, Dainese, and Spidi make jackets, suits, and vests that use airbags to protect riders in crashes.
Quote from: mister on June 20, 2012, 05:18:33 PM
The prob with any stats that show less motorcycle stuff with hi viz is, the person who opts for hi viz rides a certain way to begin with. You don't see hi viz wearers riding like dickheads.
Michael
Challenge accepted!!! :flipoff:
Quote from: mister on June 20, 2012, 05:18:33 PM
The prob with any stats that show less motorcycle stuff with hi viz is, the person who opts for hi viz rides a certain way to begin with. You don't see hi viz wearers riding like dickheads.
Michael
THIS !
remember the studies that said "drinking one glass of wine daily means a longer healthier life" ? yes, no one said anything about the study comparing upper class to poverty level folks.
yes, wearing hi-vis will make you more visible. the offending car driver WILL STILL HAVE TO LOOK AND CARE about not killing you.
Quote from: BockinBboy on June 20, 2012, 01:05:07 PM
...These are all still just statistics that dictate the conversation, but its also still a matter of chance and circumstances that are continually changing, but some of which you CAN change by altering the odds.
- Bboy
It is like I say, take the studies and their statistics with a grain of salt. But there is truth there, and it doesn't just come from no where. Now whether it is truly '18%' or actually '5%'.. who cares? Its still an amount that does make a difference whethere its a tangible amount or not. Its whether you choose to accept additional risk or not.
Now the generalization about Hi-Vis wearers is exactly that, a generalization. I know two brothers who ride 'balls to the wall' everday riding, and both have yellow helmets and vests. On the other hand, my grandpa still rides and he wears a white helmet and yellow vest, and drives like a grandpa (another generalization, I know! but you get the drift).
To say that other drivers just don't care is another generalization, but there is a grain of truth, and I accept that. But the take home from that is always drive like everyone else doesn't care to cover for the 5% that truly don't care.
So to make an equivalent statement to the above:
To say that other drivers don't see you on the road is another generalization, but there is a grain of truth, and I accept that. But the take home from that is always drive to make yourself visible (maybe wear hi-vis to help that out) to cover for the 5% that truly don't see you.
- Bboy
It seems like some people are REALLY worried about the other person and if they care or not. Bottom line is, you can't do a damn thing to change that other person. But you can make changes to yourself to make those people who are maybe just not paying enough attention see you.
That's what wearing the hi-visibility clothing is about. If someone is out to run over a motorcyclist and you are the first one they see, you're going to have a bad day no matter what you are wearing. You can't change that. Worry about the things you can change. Ride within your own limits as safely as you can and make yourself as noticeable as you can. You do that, and you're stacking the odds as high as you can into your corner.
I think what everyone is trying to say is you should pick whatever color bike you think looks cool, and that while wearing hi-viz clothing couldn't hurt, you should still ride as though no one can see you.
That said, i don't wear hi-viz, and the only close calls I have had (and learned from) were ones I could have avoided by driving less aggressively.
Be safe, Be smart. Back in 2000, I took an MSF class in Indiana where I was living at the time. Best $25 I ever spent.
We learned about SIPDE (Scan, Identify, Predict, Decide, Execute):
Scan: Look around for the "quick way out" if things go awry.
Identify: Identify what's ahead. Drive "through" the windshield of the car in front of you.
Predict: The car next to me is texting. That spells danger. Eliminate the car from the equation. Let them pass.
Decide: Pick the best area of a multi-lane road, or the best area within the lane to ride in.
Execute: Use the above to make the best decision possible.
Quote from: mister on June 20, 2012, 05:18:33 PM
The prob with any stats that show less motorcycle stuff with hi viz is, the person who opts for hi viz rides a certain way to begin with. You don't see hi viz wearers riding like dickheads.
Michael
I would agree with this most hi viz riders are more safety conscious to begin with.
I feel Hi-vis clothing is much more safe than the color of the bike. Just my 2 cents worth. Ride safe.
Quote from: mister on June 20, 2012, 05:18:33 PM
The prob with any stats that show less motorcycle stuff with hi viz is, the person who opts for hi viz rides a certain way to begin with. You don't see hi viz wearers riding like dickheads.
Michael
And where is your proof to back this up? Ever ride around a military base? Lots of riders have their Hi-Vis military spec vest on and ride like complete jerk wads. Give me some hard statistics to back it up verses confirmation bias!
Even the Hurt report supports hi-viz! #13
"Conspicuity of the motorcycle is a critical factor in the multiple vehicle accidents, and accident involvement is significantly reduced by the use of motorcycle headlamps (on in daylight) and the wearing of high visibility yellow, orange or bright red jackets. "
Mary
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on June 21, 2012, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: mister on June 20, 2012, 05:18:33 PM
The prob with any stats that show less motorcycle stuff with hi viz is, the person who opts for hi viz rides a certain way to begin with. You don't see hi viz wearers riding like dickheads.
Michael
And where is your proof to back this up? Ever ride around a military base? Lots of riders have their Hi-Vis military spec vest on and ride like complete jerk wads. Give me some hard statistics to back it up verses confirmation bias!
Mary
Great. You know full well there is no way for me to prove to you that hiviz wearers don't ride like dickheads. Likewise, you cannot PROVE to me with Hard Statistics that lots of riders have hiviz military spec vests on and ride like jerk wads.
My statement is based on my riding observations. And I usually ride seven days a week and clock up 400++ miles a week. And on the weekend I see loads and loads of bikes. Some with hiviz. And I can tell you, the hiviz wearing riders I see during the week and on weekends do not ride like jerk wads. Of course, I am not hanging out in front of military bases - which simply might mean that people that work in military bases ride like jerk wads regardless of what they wear - but there is no Hard Statistical Proof for that either. So I guess we shall forever remain at this impasse.
Michael
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on June 21, 2012, 09:49:30 PM
And where is your proof to back this up? Ever ride around a military base? Lots of riders have their Hi-Vis military spec vest on and ride like complete jerk wads. Give me some hard statistics to back it up verses confirmation bias!
Would this be US military bases where wearing hi-vis is a requirement for being allowed to ride on base? In that case observation of their riding behaviour is immediately invalidated, because you can no longer distinguish those that choose to wear hi-vis from those that are forced to wear it.
You need to get over your obsession with statistics, they will always be twisted to match the bias of whoever is creating them, or whoever wants to use them to achieve a specific outcome. ie Statistics are utter bullshit
why is there no 'eating popcorn and watching' smiley?
i'll just pretend i put it in here :icon_neutral:
Quote from: Janx101 on June 27, 2012, 09:08:04 PM
why is there no 'eating popcorn and watching' smiley?
i'll just pretend i put it in here :icon_neutral:
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/forum/smileyvault-popcorn.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/)
what the ... where the .... sigh ...
Statistics mean a lot ~ they are a unit of measure which can be very helpful. Statistics taken out of context can be misleading though.
Quote from: SAFE-T on October 02, 2012, 02:23:07 PM
Statistics mean a lot ~ they are a unit of measure which can be very helpful. Statistics taken out of context can be misleading though.
Yes because 42% of statistics are made up on the spot (ha ha).
Most of your bike is level with car hoods, so the flashy paint job could go unnoticed. Your body extends above the cartops and is the best billboard you've got. Some of the big bikers have such mad skills that they don't really concern themselves with safety and stick almost exclusively to black leather. As an added plus for them, we recently repealed the helmet law here in Michigan. WHOOHOO! Been there, done that, high speed crashes with asphalt and pickup trucks. I couldn't afford a full helmet back then, and have chin scars to remind me. My wife laughed at me when I bought a lime-green mesh vest to cover my Joe Rocket jacket with body armor, but I've got the best odds available. Am going to trade in my full coverage tribal helmet for plain white FC helmet sometime soon. If/when the day comes to do the Iron Butt, I'll probably get a full suit like yours. Ride to live, live to ride again.
I would assume the high vis gear designed to be seen over an orange color bike.
My vote goes to, in that order:
1. Hi-viz jacket and helmet
2. Hi-viz helmet only
3. Hi-viz jacket only
Distant 4. Flashy bike
I see a rare few 1's on my commute from SF to Sunnyvale, a few more 3's, even more 2's, and a lot more 4's. The only ones who stand out reliably from any angle are 1's and 2's. The ones with hi-viz jackets only are sometimes harder to see, especially from the front if they have two low beams or ride with their high beams on. As for the 4's, the bike itself is all too often lost in the sea of metal on 101 or 280 at rush hour. As for me, I'm full neon gear (#1) with a silver '99 GS (aftermarket paint job) and I do get my share of last-minute aborts from cars preparing lane changes, presumably because they see me well.
Also, as the days get shorter, don't forget to augment your hi-viz helmet with hi-viz reflective decals!
Quote from: jestercinti on October 02, 2012, 05:11:51 PM
Quote from: SAFE-T on October 02, 2012, 02:23:07 PM
Statistics mean a lot ~ they are a unit of measure which can be very helpful. Statistics taken out of context can be misleading though.
Yes because 42% of statistics are made up on the spot (ha ha).
Actually, it's 47.6%
Quote from: NesquikNinja on June 17, 2012, 04:39:04 PMI realize hivis only does a little bit for you....but the odds are so far against us out the road, every little bit helps.
I haven't read the 30 or so posts in this thread, so forgive me if the question has already been answered.
The hurt report showed that high visibility clothing (bright colors, including white and orange) was under-represented in motorcycle accidents, while bike color didn't seem to make much of a difference. Jacket color is significantly more important than pant color. Helmet color is also important.
Victorian government in Australia are trying to make hi vis clothing compulsory. Seems extremely stupid since helmets are the only thing you legally have to wear. If they wanted to start on safety seriously instead of band aid solutions (I'm not pro or con hi vis, data is not conclusive) then they would start by doing simple stuff. Mandate people are covered head to toe. So at the least people wear close shoes, long pants, long sleeves and gloves. Later you upgrade that to approved bike gear compulsory and a riding course minimum every 5 years for a brush up of skills. Straight to hi vis to me is horse before cart stuff.
Ah... hiviz makes fewer appearances in crashes.... can either mean....
- People who wear hiviz ride in a certain style that shows them to be less likely invovled in a crash
- Do not ride on weekends when many bike crashes happen
- people mistake them for police and that Pause before realizing they were not cops is enough to prevent a crash
- it makes them more visible and thus people don't crash into them
Strange considering Most motorcycle crashes are single vehicle crashes.
The other day I saw 3 drunk men and they were Spanish. I conclude all drunks a spanish or all spanish are drunk. Must be true, stats don't lie. :icon_mrgreen:
Michael
I have been hit twice by cars while wearing full head to toe hi-vis clothing. Makes no difference whether you wear it or not if the driver is an idiot?
http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/inattentionalblindness.html
That article was great. Loved the part where they made the police cars as obvious as possible and they got hit more.