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Title: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 01:06:27 AM
Hey guys,

So my girlfriend got me this dual horn set, much like the one below:

http://www.amazon.com/CANDLEPOWER-COMPLETE-ELECTRIC-HORN-230312/dp/B000WJJB4K/ref=sr_1_122?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1357718610&sr=1-122&keywords=-air+-cover

Does anyone have any advice on how to wire this up/mount them both? She's gonna be pissed at me, for some reason, if I can't get them running

Graham  :2guns:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: BockinBboy on January 09, 2013, 06:48:20 AM
Here is a link to the section of the wiki for horns.  I know it isn't specific to what you have, but it has a little bit on wiring them up.  Just something to keep you reading if you haven't seen it yet, and until someone can fill in the gaps.  I plan on adding an aftermarket horn at some point myself, but haven't fully committed yet to be able offer much on the actual install.

- Bboy
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: jestercinti on January 09, 2013, 08:53:53 AM
I bought a Stebel Nautilis horn.  Everyone hears me now going down the road.  There was a special wiring kit that I bought with it that was a lifesaver.  I bought it from Twisted Throttle.

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/stebel-nautilus-compact-dual-tone-motorcycle-air-horn-12-volt-139-db-black-or-chrome
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/plug-n-play-wiring-kit-for-stebel-compact-nautilus-airhorns-by-twisted-throttle
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: weedahoe on January 09, 2013, 09:00:53 AM
If you are going g to use the relay......

Take the 12v fromthe orinal horn to pin 85
Use the (-) wire from the horn wiring to pin 86
Take a wire from the battery to pin 30
Take a wire from pin 87 and go to one side of each horn
Take a wire from the other pin in each horn and go to ground
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 10:08:46 AM
so run a wire from the battery?

I guess I'm gonna have to build some sort of bracket. The mounting bolt for stock faces the front of the bike, these mounting holes face the outside of the bike when the horns face forward

Graham
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: weedahoe on January 09, 2013, 10:56:11 AM
10-4

Run a wire (around 14-16ga) from the battery to pin 30. This will provide the actual power to the horns whn the ccontact switch
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 11:24:13 AM
And where is the best place to ground near the front of the bike?
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: weedahoe on January 09, 2013, 12:03:20 PM
You could use the other wire off the OEM horn or if you have a F model, use a ring terminal and secure it under a bolt that holds the fairing brackets
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 12:21:40 PM
So would I solder a wire onto the ground wire on the oem connecter for the ground? I've got an 02, so no fairing. Or could I just use a terminal ring and bolt it onto any bolt on the frame?

Also, how do I know which is the positive wire and which is negative on the stock connector?

Graham  :2guns:

Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: weedahoe on January 09, 2013, 01:22:10 PM
You should go to Walmart or an auto parts store and buy male/female insulated spade connectors. These will crimp in the wires. You can use them to connect to the relay, the OEM wiring and horns.

Use a volt meter or test light to determine which of the two wires is (+) and (-) on the norm wiring or see the electrical schematic in the manual 
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 01:46:28 PM
I actually just got back from the hardware store to get some connectors and such

So with the voltmeter, I touch the end of one of the connectors, then to ground and if I get a reading around 12, that will be my positive? And the negative one, I should get no reading?

Graham
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: weedahoe on January 09, 2013, 01:50:09 PM
Just take the two meter leads and connect to both wires and see if you get a +12 or -12v.

Then you will know if you have your meter leads correct or backwards
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 01:53:48 PM
Ah. I'll do that.

I think I got it backwards up there^.

Would another way to do it be to touch the meter leads to the horn connector and one to the positive terminal on the battery? The one that gives me a reading is the ground, and the one that gives a reading is hot?

Just trying to make sense of this all.

Graham
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 01:57:03 PM
I stuck the voltmeter leads into the connectors and nothing happened either way. hmmm...

Graham
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 02:08:25 PM
Ok, stick the leads into the connector with the bike on and press the horn button. got it.

So the black is hot, and the black with blue stripe is ground. Got it.

Graham  :2guns:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: adidasguy on January 09, 2013, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 01:57:03 PM
I stuck the voltmeter leads into the connectors and nothing happened either way. hmmm...

Graham
volt meter: connect black to ground (frame or battery negative). Red meter lead to one horn lead: what happens? Press horn button and what happens? Repeat with other wire.

It helps to have your colored wiring diagram in front of you and follow the color coded wires. It is so easy: exactly like reading a map. Red line: that's I-5 and can follow it from Seattle to Portland. If I can't get there: the bridge is out. Wiring is same: orange is +12: can follow it from this connector to that other one. If I don't see +12 at each point then the wire is broken somewhere between point A and point B. Or there is a switch (like a draw bridge on the highway).
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 07:37:39 PM
Alright, got em all wired up! They are LOUD. Thanks for all the help, I don't know what I'd do without you guys  :bowdown:

Just gotta make a bracket now...

Graham :2guns:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: weedahoe on January 09, 2013, 07:48:48 PM
You should do a YouTube video
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 09, 2013, 07:53:24 PM
I'll see what I can do over the next few days. Got a big ol' bioChem exam on saturday, and will eat my time, but I'll try and get one up after that

Graham  :2guns:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 14, 2013, 03:09:35 PM
So I got a few pictures of the bracket I built for the horns:

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/184435_10152175468365021_1500239645_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/397687_10152175468380021_250798869_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735030_10152175468375021_253656381_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/555237_10152175468500021_1462593026_n.jpg)

And here is a little video showing how its mounted on the bike...so it turns out my camera doesn't do sound...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opdyx8HFzDs

Graham  :2guns:

Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: weedahoe on January 14, 2013, 05:42:37 PM
Looks good. Should they be facing the other direction so you wont get water or debris in them when riding?
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: jestercinti on January 14, 2013, 06:01:11 PM
Ummmmm...Dude, you forgot to toot your own horn... :icon_rolleyes:

WE want to see it in action!
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 14, 2013, 06:47:56 PM
I think they should be facing forward...I'm usually honking at people in front of me, so I'd like the 118 dB to be directed at them, not me.

I'm working on gettin a video with sound. Its loud as shat.

Graham  :2guns:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: jestercinti on January 14, 2013, 07:04:33 PM
Yeah, I installed my Stebel Nautilis air horn and was surprised at the sound.

The first time I hit the button, I jumped out of my skin!  When I regained my composure, my ears rang for 2 days.

It's worked though. Cars hear me on the highway. Even when texting/sexting/talking on the phone no more improper lane change.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: NjDan on January 14, 2013, 10:41:03 PM
Is that a nintendo 64 I see??? Now thats something to talk about  :wink: :bowdown: I used to love that thing
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 14, 2013, 11:23:51 PM
why yes it is. mario kart 64, goldeneye, super smash bros. the works
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: codajastal on January 14, 2013, 11:25:25 PM
You should aim the horns toward the ground at an angle so any moisture can drain out and not futz all your work :thumb:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 14, 2013, 11:26:54 PM
they are at a slight angle towards the ground, should definitely be enough for fluid to drain.
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: codajastal on January 14, 2013, 11:35:49 PM
Quote from: gsatterw on January 14, 2013, 11:26:54 PM
they are at a slight angle towards the ground, should definitely be enough for fluid to drain.
Perfect :thumb:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: weedahoe on January 14, 2013, 11:44:56 PM
I think it is awesome work  :cheers:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: codajastal on January 14, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
I want to hear the horns Graham :thumb:
Post up a short video please :cheers:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: gsatterw on January 16, 2013, 10:35:29 AM
So got a recording of the new horns here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBirrmOrsS0

Sorry I sound like such a tool! Doesn't quite do the horn justice, but you can get a sense.

Graham  :2guns:
Title: Re: Aftermarket Horn Wiring
Post by: jestercinti on January 16, 2013, 10:45:09 AM
Nice!