So I've loved my gs and it was my second time back to getting a gs. I want something more stable on the highway and 2-up with my fiancee.
I really enjoy twins vs i4. I like cruising around 4-5k and would rather not have to have a high rpm take off. :icon_confused:
The fz6 and fz1 seem to be great commuters. Both forums say how comfortable they are and less wind issues. Just high RPMS with the fz6. The look of the Fz6 looks more fierce and I like that.
The Sv650 and sv1000 are both twins and have the low rpm take off factors. I've heard that the sv650s is pretty cramped and it isn't good for long trips. Thats why I ended up with a gs500 again. The look of the sv650 with dual seats really entices me.
My commute daily is 55 mi each each way. Most roads are back routes going 45-55 mph and then a 25 minute strip of highway.
Please can someone help me decide? give me the pros and cons because its going to be quite a while till i can and test ride out here. :dunno_black:
I personally would go with the sv models, either size. I was also looking at those two bike models. You might as well get a liter bike (sv1) because I know a few people who have gotten tired of their sv650s. That's just my opinion though. good luck :thumb: :thumb:
I want an FZ1 so bad, but don't have the disposable income yet. one day. all that power is just.... :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
I'd say an FZ1 with stock sound suppression and airbox, yes, will have a higher cruising rpm, but will still be quiet, and you'll never (unless you're crazy) want for more power.
The sv650 will probably be better on gas, and will definitely be more flickable, and I think is a little tighter on the tall folks. You may find yourself getting into trouble on the fz1 if you get throttle happy the way i do. ride both if you can.
That's the thing. A litre bike might be a good place to be so then I don't need anything bigger. Plus from what I hear there's more stability on them verses the 600 league.
Now the fz6 has a sexy under exhaust. I mean that has me bought but the fz1 looks more fiercer. Just better body work.
The fz1 wins me on comfortability and mileage is around 40 to 50. The sv1000 gets around the same as well.
The sv650 averages 55 and fz6 is 45 to 50 something.
Is it worth the extra mpg. The tank on the fz is 5 and something gallons so I'm not too worried.
Lets get more oppinions because I want to hear it from riders not a salesmen.
Have you ever had anything bigger than a 500? if not i would say try and test ride a couple 600s and 1000s so that you know what the power will be like. I know when my best friend ride his first liter bike he said it almost bucked him off every time he hit the throttle. But you might not rest till you have a liter bike haha. I know that's probably how I am.
As previously suggested, test ride as many of the bikes you can. If you are going to pillion you may find the SV650 a little lacking power and suspension wise. I have heard the FZ6 can be little buzzy hence why you should try and test ride one. Remember also a litre bike is gonna cost you a lot more in insurance. The power difference will scare you at first and takes a little getting used. A litre bike is not as forgiving as the lil GS so be very easy with the throttle. Have you had a look at the Triumph Street Triple? I have ridden one and highly recommend a test ride on one of em.
I can give a bit of personal experience having upgraded last July from a GS to a Mk1 FZ6.
Pros:
-Riding position - more upright and confortable, wind also seems to affect me less than on the GS even though we're still talking naked bikes.
-Power delivery - well, first of all I've got to admit I'm not often heavy on the throttle, I like cruising more than racing. At 6k rpm there's already enough oomph to overtake without downshifting, anyway past 10k things feel different. The (few) times I opened the throttle that much I could feel as though my arms were going to be ripped from the sockets haha. In a word: plenty enough for me.
-Looks - it's modern without looking like an anime character. Which a lot of present Jap bikes do, unfortunately.
-Fuel economy - of course it can't be as economical as the GS, but if you just cruise 55 mpg (about 20 km per litre) are at hand. You can shift at 4k without the engine lugging and/or you feeling like a complete idiot. Overall, I expected worse.
Cons:
-Gear shifting - not as smooth as the GS's, by all means. Especially when downshifting you have to give a sharp kick on the pedal. I found myself wanting a gear indicator at times - something I never missed on the GS even at the very start. I suppose I'll have to just get used to it.
-Parking Maneuverability - maybe it's a higher centre of gravity but the FZ is heavier and it does feel.
-Under-seat exhaust - you'll be better off with a rear rack and top box to deflect air flow, otherwise you'll end up smelling like exhaust smoke at the end of every ride. You may not mind (personally, I do) but your pillion could, especially if it's your significant other and she has to do the washing.
As a matter of fact I haven't had much time to ride since buying my FZ (about 1000-1200 miles I guess) so I still have to get 100% used to it.
But I'm happy and satisfied with the purchase anyway.
Best of luck with your choice!
What year is the mk1
Why not a honda VFR?
its a v-4, comfortable, quick, nimble for its size, and reliable.
Quote from: Twisted on January 20, 2013, 02:29:20 AM
As previously suggested, test ride as many of the bikes you can. If you are going to pillion you may find the SV650 a little lacking power and suspension wise. I have heard the FZ6 can be little buzzy hence why you should try and test ride one. Remember also a litre bike is gonna cost you a lot more in insurance. The power difference will scare you at first and takes a little getting used. A litre bike is not as forgiving as the lil GS so be very easy with the throttle. Have you had a look at the Triumph Street Triple? I have ridden one and highly recommend a test ride on one of em.
No insurance here in Washington muhaha, but a liter bike will sure cost you a lot to purchase.
I don't like the whole cruiser bike look. The vrf is nice but I want dual headlights. Just something about it gets me going.
You mean the Honda vfr 800? Thats a pretty smexy bike, you might like it. It has dual headlights, however; the new models are pretty spendy.
Quote from: jacob92icu on January 20, 2013, 05:11:38 PM
You mean the Honda vfr 800? Thats a pretty smexy bike, you might like it. It has dual headlights, however; the new models are pretty spendy.
Your right. It does look pretty awesome but I checked CL and dang 6-8k.
Quote from: simon79 on January 20, 2013, 04:19:56 AM
I can give a bit of personal experience having upgraded last July from a GS to a Mk1 FZ6.
Pros:
-Riding position - more upright and confortable, wind also seems to affect me less than on the GS even though we're still talking naked bikes.
-Power delivery - well, first of all I've got to admit I'm not often heavy on the throttle, I like cruising more than racing. At 6k rpm there's already enough oomph to overtake without downshifting, anyway past 10k things feel different. The (few) times I opened the throttle that much I could feel as though my arms were going to be ripped from the sockets haha. In a word: plenty enough for me.
-Looks - it's modern without looking like an anime character. Which a lot of present Jap bikes do, unfortunately.
-Fuel economy - of course it can't be as economical as the GS, but if you just cruise 55 mpg (about 20 km per litre) are at hand. You can shift at 4k without the engine lugging and/or you feeling like a complete idiot. Overall, I expected worse.
Cons:
-Gear shifting - not as smooth as the GS's, by all means. Especially when downshifting you have to give a sharp kick on the pedal. I found myself wanting a gear indicator at times - something I never missed on the GS even at the very start. I suppose I'll have to just get used to it.
-Parking Maneuverability - maybe it's a higher centre of gravity but the FZ is heavier and it does feel.
-Under-seat exhaust - you'll be better off with a rear rack and top box to deflect air flow, otherwise you'll end up smelling like exhaust smoke at the end of every ride. You may not mind (personally, I do) but your pillion could, especially if it's your significant other and she has to do the washing.
As a matter of fact I haven't had much time to ride since buying my FZ (about 1000-1200 miles I guess) so I still have to get 100% used to it.
But I'm happy and satisfied with the purchase anyway.
Best of luck with your choice!
So the would you recommend the 650?
the sv really isnt that bad for longer trips. there are a few inexpensive mods like rearset plates to get your feet into a more comfortable position, clip-on risers, etc, etc. i think the most expensive thing that people would upgrade first is the seat. most go with sargent or corbin. havent heard good things about the oem gel seats though.
i've had a "s" model SV650 for 2.5 years now an have loved every minute of it. my mileage usually averages around 48 mpg, but i do about 50/50 between city and highway riding, as well as 2-up riding. maintenance is pretty simple and straightforward if you have a manual as usual. SV1K's will have the same ergonomics as the 650, but in a heavier package as well as fewer mpg. not the way to go IMHO.
as far as the yamaha's go, the seating position will be more upright and more "commuter" style. with similar-ish mpgs. could be more pricey than the SV's but i dont really know. thats also 4 throttlebodies to babysit rather than 2 with the SV as well ;)
Quote from: BassWoW on January 20, 2013, 02:35:01 PM
I don't like the whole cruiser bike look. The vrf is nice but I want dual headlights. Just something about it gets me going.
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Triumph Street Triple
Quote from: Twisted on January 20, 2013, 08:12:16 PM
Quote from: BassWoW on January 20, 2013, 02:35:01 PM
I don't like the whole cruiser bike look. The vrf is nice but I want dual headlights. Just something about it gets me going.
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Triumph Street Triple
This would be my choice if I was buying new.
My SV650n is fantastic. It does everything so well. Plenty of power, great mileage, and reasonably comfortable (though you may want to upgrade the seat, and the front suspension if you want to track it). The only issue I have is that I'm really ready to move on to something with a fairing. If I could find a 650s(f preferably) then I would be set.
Quote from: dry_humor on January 20, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
the sv really isnt that bad for longer trips. there are a few inexpensive mods like rearset plates to get your feet into a more comfortable position, clip-on risers, etc, etc. i think the most expensive thing that people would upgrade first is the seat. most go with sargent or corbin. havent heard good things about the oem gel seats though.
i've had a "s" model SV650 for 2.5 years now an have loved every minute of it. my mileage usually averages around 48 mpg, but i do about 50/50 between city and highway riding, as well as 2-up riding. maintenance is pretty simple and straightforward if you have a manual as usual. SV1K's will have the same ergonomics as the 650, but in a heavier package as well as fewer mpg. not the way to go IMHO.
as far as the yamaha's go, the seating position will be more upright and more "commuter" style. with similar-ish mpgs. could be more pricey than the SV's but i dont really know. thats also 4 throttlebodies to babysit rather than 2 with the SV as well ;)
I heard that the sv wasn't that comfortable for touring but thats why I'm asking people who have tried them.I live the faired SV650s. I wouldn't mind the sv at all I am just sick of my shoulders hurting when I ride. I love my gs and i'm keeping it but the riding position just aches 2 inches under my shoulder just above the blade.
I'm not buying new at all. Used is more of my new. The fz6 and fz1s are pretty low priced in my area and I wouldn't mind that. I'm more or less thinking when I go touring to ct and i'm 2-up what will be most comfortable and able to pass cars and trucks.
That speed triple looks nice too but im looking for that bug or anime look. How much gas does it run mpg wise?
Ya they are very spendy, but in some cases you get what you pay for. I know they were police bikes, so they probably are pretty comfortable to begin with. If you cant decide between 650 and a 1000 maybe you should meet in the middle with a 750 or 800?
Quote from: BassWoW on January 20, 2013, 10:04:37 PM
Quote from: dry_humor on January 20, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
That speed triple looks nice too but im looking for that bug or anime look. How much gas does it run mpg wise?
the Speed Triple is the bigger brother of the Street. The Speed has a 1050 triple and the Street 675 so the fuel consumption would be similar to an inline 4 of the same capacity. I wouldn't recommend the speed as an upgrade from the GS. I have heard is a bit of a handful in the roads.
The SV1000 has been out of production for a lot of years. The SV650 is a tight fit compared to the GS500, so if your shoulders hurt on the GS it's not going to get better on the SV.
The FZ6 and FZ1 have 1st and 2nd gen versions with different qualities. The FZ6 was replaced by the FZ6R ~ the 6R has better midrange power but less top-end. I have ridden both and they feel pretty similar overall, but I would rather have the 6R because you spend more time under 10,000 rpm anyway.
The 2nd gen FZ1 went the other way, losing midrange but gaining top-end power as it used different versions of the R1 powerplant. A friend of mine had one for a couple of years and loved it. I think the 2nd gen FZ1 looks way better however, and as with the FZ6/6R I don't think you would notice a whole lot of difference in power ~ certainly not enough to say one was a clear winner.
The 2nd gen FZ6R got considerably heavier though ~ close to the samw weight as the 2nd gen FZ1. So if you are looking to choose between these 4 the 1st gen FZ6 and 2nd gen FZ1 will be the lighter and 'faster' versions.
Quote from: shonole on January 20, 2013, 08:35:53 PM
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Triumph Street Triple
This would be my choice if I was buying new.
If you were buying new, you'd find that the headlights and other stuff were changed in 2012 on the Street Triple. If I were looking for a Street Triple, I'd have to look at used 2011's or earlier. The 2012's look too much like an insect to me with the new headlight design and low exhaust. Though, I hear that the Street Triple's underseat exhaust gets a bit hot...great for cool/cold weather riding. Not so much in the heat of the summer.
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2012 Triumph Street Triple
z1000?
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Quote from: jdoorn14 on January 21, 2013, 07:31:47 AM
Quote from: shonole on January 20, 2013, 08:35:53 PM
Quote from: Twisted on January 20, 2013, 08:12:16 PM
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Triumph Street Triple
This would be my choice if I was buying new.
If you were buying new, you'd find that the headlights and other stuff were changed in 2012 on the Street Triple. If I were looking for a Street Triple, I'd have to look at used 2011's or earlier. The 2012's look too much like an insect to me with the new headlight design and low exhaust. Though, I hear that the Street Triple's underseat exhaust gets a bit hot...great for cool/cold weather riding. Not so much in the heat of the summer.
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2012 Triumph Street Triple
I'm well aware. I would prefer new, with dual Aztec8 headlights. Though the older ones are still incredible.
Quote from: xunedeinx on January 21, 2013, 11:50:56 AM
z1000?
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I liked the looks of both zzr and z1000. I checked out the 04-05 zx-7r and I really liked that. Just didn't seem comfortable.
Quote from: SAFE-T on January 21, 2013, 04:15:49 AM
The SV1000 has been out of production for a lot of years. The SV650 is a tight fit compared to the GS500, so if your shoulders hurt on the GS it's not going to get better on the SV.
Thats why I was leaning more to the fz. Some people say it doesn't bother them at all.
Hell I even looked into the older style cbr and yzf cats. 01-04.
Quote from: SAFE-T on January 21, 2013, 04:25:37 AM
The FZ6 and FZ1 have 1st and 2nd gen versions with different qualities. The FZ6 was replaced by the FZ6R ~ the 6R has better midrange power but less top-end. I have ridden both and they feel pretty similar overall, but I would rather have the 6R because you spend more time under 10,000 rpm anyway.
The 2nd gen FZ1 went the other way, losing midrange but gaining top-end power as it used different versions of the R1 powerplant. A friend of mine had one for a couple of years and loved it. I think the 2nd gen FZ1 looks way better however, and as with the FZ6/6R I don't think you would notice a whole lot of difference in power ~ certainly not enough to say one was a clear winner.
The 2nd gen FZ6R got considerably heavier though ~ close to the samw weight as the 2nd gen FZ1. So if you are looking to choose between these 4 the 1st gen FZ6 and 2nd gen FZ1 will be the lighter and 'faster' versions.
If I had to choose Id take the fz1 first gen becuase of less issues and the 2nd gen fz6.
Quote from: jdoorn14 on January 21, 2013, 07:31:47 AM
Quote from: shonole on January 20, 2013, 08:35:53 PM
Quote from: Twisted on January 20, 2013, 08:12:16 PM
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Triumph Street Triple
This would be my choice if I was buying new.
If you were buying new, you'd find that the headlights and other stuff were changed in 2012 on the Street Triple. If I were looking for a Street Triple, I'd have to look at used 2011's or earlier. The 2012's look too much like an insect to me with the new headlight design and low exhaust. Though, I hear that the Street Triple's underseat exhaust gets a bit hot...great for cool/cold weather riding. Not so much in the heat of the summer.
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2012 Triumph Street Triple
There both really nice. I think they are just out of my price range =/ but I will admit undertail exhaust is really hott.
The pillion seat on the S3 and Striple and not the best for your passenger. if this is your intention then They must also be comfortable. So take them on any test rides you do as well - or at least on the last few narrowed-it-down-to-these-three test rides.
FZ6. Forget about it. Test ride one to satisfy your curiosity. But really... nah.
SV650 - the Sport has a Much more agressive riding position than the naked. The naked position is more upright. I disliked my time on the Sport but loved the naked. Keep in mind, the pillion seat is a tad small on this too. So again, if that is a serious contender after a test ride then do another with your pillion on it.
SV1 - um, yeah, bit more vibey for sure. I kinda feel Suzuki stopped making it for a reason - lack of sales. And the lack of sales were for a reason as well. But test for yourself and see.
I think for versatility.... a Honda 919. Plenty of horses. Sits at 63mph at a tad under 4k rpm in 6th. But can also do this speed in 1st gear if you really want to push it. Ride it sedately or hard and it will provide with Honda smoothness. Plus, the pillion seat is quite large and comfy. And it will do a 55 mile commute without batting an eyelid.
Michael
Mike loves his 919's ~ maybe they are more common on that side of the planet, but I can only remember seeing one. Ever
Quote from: BassWoW on January 20, 2013, 07:01:02 PM
So the would you recommend the 650?
Well, yes. There are probably better bikes out there but I'm happy with mine so far and I'm finding it a good step up from the GS.
Mk 1's are 2004 to 2007. You can tell a Mk1 from a Mk2 (S2) by the instrument pod - full LCD on the first, analogue speedometer on the second.
Other options I feel are better suited for pillion duties... and which can be handy commuters...
XJ900 - old school
XJ1300
Suzuki Bandit - 1200 and 1250. The GSX 1300 and 1400 also.
VStrom - 650 is my preference but if you feel you must the thou is doable, but the 650 can handle pillions fine. Just don't expect to accelerate quickly with the pillion on.
These bikes have more upright riding positions.
BMW F650GS - now the F700GS - is also a great bikes IMO. Quite upright positions, brilliant handling, enough torque and grunt to pass with ease. Can do pillions well too.
Michael
So, this is off topic but the last few posts kept mentioning pillion and I thought it must have been the curse filter because I've never seen that word before. But wikipedia just informed me that it's the passenger seat!
Carry on! :-)
I just thought of one thing to consider.
After starting to work on that Ninja 250 and finding you can't even get at the spark plugs unless you remove the tank (which is sooooo lame)....
Look at you choices. If you intend to work on it yourself, how easy is it?
If I had bought a Ninja 500 instead of the GS500, I would never be in to working on my bike myself. I never would have built a bike cave or become a parts whore. The Ninja is not user friendly to work on and is a real pain in the butt. I am so glad the GS500 is simple and easy to wrench. In the future if (when) I get a different bike for my herd, I will make sure I can at least get to the spark plugs.
And to think I always complained about the GS500 helmet lock where you have to remove the seat......
I thought Yamaha addressed some fuel-injection issues in the 07+ (Mk2) FZ6.
I've owned a 06 SV650S for about 4 years now. I ride it around town almost every day that its not raining, and I've taken it on 4 hour road trips (longest thus far on a sport bike). The only part I didn't like during the 4 hour ride was the seat. It hurt my butt after about 2 to 2.5 hours. But note that I have a gel seat (made by Suzuki, bought it used for cheap) that I install whenever I plan on riding long distance. The stock sport seat will kill the inside of your legs starting after about an hour or two, due to the sharp angles that allow easy leaning in turns. Everything else is comfortable though. I also ride with a passenger every now and then, and its comfortable to do so as well.
Unless you plan on making profit from racing a SV1000S, I see no reason whatsoever to own a 1000 over a 650. You get better gas mileage and cheaper insurance with the 650. I can get my 650 up to 150 mph and I weigh almost 200 pounds (with stock gearing ratios), not that I do it often, just every now and then. Oh, and its actually pretty comfortable and feels quite stable at 150 mph.
Quote from: adidasguy on January 23, 2013, 03:52:28 PM
I just thought of one thing to consider.
After starting to work on that Ninja 250 and finding you can't even get at the spark plugs unless you remove the tank (which is sooooo lame)....
Look at you choices. If you intend to work on it yourself, how easy is it?
If I had bought a Ninja 500 instead of the GS500, I would never be in to working on my bike myself. I never would have built a bike cave or become a parts whore. The Ninja is not user friendly to work on and is a real pain in the butt. I am so glad the GS500 is simple and easy to wrench. In the future if (when) I get a different bike for my herd, I will make sure I can at least get to the spark plugs.
And to think I always complained about the GS500 helmet lock where you have to remove the seat......
I plan on working on every bike I own. The only thing I dont feel comfortable doing is replacing tires. I've been waiting for you to chime in as well.
I'm still not sure as to which Bike I am going to get. I know im not a millionaire or anything so im positive bikes wont be newer than 07.
So from what I'm hearing people like the sv650(s) and some dont think its that comfortable. Can I get weight statistics.. I'm 154 lbs.
Go with the SV650s man. You'll be happy with the power and the look. Its a really nice bike, and you'll be very satisfied after having just the power of your gs500. O0
What about an advventure touring bike like a V-strom or a Kawi Versys? Very comfortable riding position, and two-up is probably comfortable.
Quote from: mcg2000 on January 23, 2013, 06:11:19 PMI can get my 650 up to 150 mph and I weigh almost 200 pounds (with stock gearing ratios), not that I do it often, just every now and then. Oh, and its actually pretty comfortable and feels quite stable at 150 mph.
I find that hard to believe. A GSXR 600 can only do 155 mph and has 30 more horsepower. I've never heard of a stock SV doing more than 135 mph stock or 140 mph with extensive modifications.
Has the OP considered a Hyosung GT650R? I've never ridden one, but my buddy just picked up one of the older carb'd versions in mint condition for $1500 and he seems to like it
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Quote from: Bluesmudge on January 24, 2013, 07:47:28 PM
Quote from: mcg2000 on January 23, 2013, 06:11:19 PMI can get my 650 up to 150 mph and I weigh almost 200 pounds (with stock gearing ratios), not that I do it often, just every now and then. Oh, and its actually pretty comfortable and feels quite stable at 150 mph.
I find that hard to believe. A GSXR 600 can only do 155 mph and has 30 more horsepower. I've never heard of a stock SV doing more than 135 mph stock or 140 mph with extensive modifications.
Has the OP considered a Hyosung GT650R? I've never ridden one, but my buddy just picked up one of the older carb'd versions in mint condition for $1500 and he seems to like it
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I like the style but I heard the way those bikes were made that the engine doesn't last that long in them. Considering how much I ride daily 110mi. I couldn't chance it.
The Hyosong gt650 is simply the knock off version of the sv650. And i have also heard bad things about the life term of them.
Quote from: jacob92icu on January 25, 2013, 03:18:28 PM
The Hyosong gt650 is simply the knock off version of the sv650. And i have also heard bad things about the life term of them.
Hyosung actually make the Suzuki 650 twin. So who's knocking who off?
Bass wow, another bike you could look at is the 650 ninja
Now someone said the sv650s was cramped and another like the above said its nice.
Only way to find out for yourself is to sit on one or even better, test ride. The Kawasaki 650 comes in a naked model (ER6) or a faired (ninja, not to be mistaken with the ZX6R ninja)
I find that hard to believe. A GSXR 600 can only do 155 mph and has 30 more horsepower. I've never heard of a stock SV doing more than 135 mph stock or 140 mph with extensive modifications.
Has the OP considered a Hyosung GT650R? I've never ridden one, but my buddy just picked up one of the older carb'd versions in mint condition for $1500 and he seems to like it
(http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/i_2012_GT650R.jpg)
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Dude... Ever heard of gear ratios? Just because an engine has more horsepower doesn't mean the bike will go faster. Your rotational speeds will vary from the engine to the wheel thanks to the transmission, which is geared differently for each bike (or model, etc.). The amount of teeth on your sprocket also affect the ratio. Come out to Starkville, MS and I'll ride side by side with you at 150 MPH on my stock geared 06 Suzuki SV650S. Anyways, a GSX-R is a racing bike, so it'll be geared more towards acceleration, which sacrifices top speed.
Quote from: BassWoW on January 25, 2013, 04:15:51 PM
Now someone said the sv650s was cramped and another like the above said its nice.
Just depends on your height I guess. I'm the one who said it was comfortable, and I'm 5'10" and 190 lbs. Just for reference :cheers:
The hyosung might make the sv650 but i believe that Suzuki has better quality manufacturing than hyosung
BW,
The SV650 is upright.
The SV650s has more agressive leaning posture.
I like the naked, dislike the S' posture.
Take both for a spin and see if they suit you. We are all different and what suits one person does not suit another.
You could try out the BMW twins too. The naked f800r, f800s, and the gs versions too. Great for pillion riding.
Ill take the bmw f650gs everyday over the f800gs. Same engine, but the handling on the 650 wins hands down.
One love
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/kmlkrk/2011-Yamaha-FZ8-black600_zpsc80f720f.jpg)
I enjoy my FZ6 (aside from a pesky headlight problem). It's comfortable for long distance riding. It does well in the twisties, though the higher center of gravity takes some getting used to. The braking is pretty strong. The frame is aluminum, so if you keep the bike outside you shouldn't have to worry about rust on the frame. If you're into modifying there are plenty of aftermarket parts. When I first test rode it I thought the power would be overwhelming, but it's all about throttle control and managing RPMs. I don't have much of an opinion on the other bikes mentioned other than the SV650N and my ride on it wasn't too long, so I can't provide reliable information for that model.
The SV650 has proven pretty durable, and raced in middleweight across the world. Never heard of anyone 'racing an SV1000 for profit' LOL.
I had ridden a couple of SV650'S' models over the years and it always felt fine. Then I bought one last year when I was 45 and it absolutely killed my left hip and knee after about 20min. But up until then I thought it was awesome.
The SV650'S' does have a fairly long reach across the tank to the bars ~ again, this was never a problem until last year.
It's the kind of bike you have to plunk yourself down on for yourself and find out.
The 07+ SV650 had ABS available as an option ~ something you won't find on the FZ6,FZ6R or FZ1.
The '04 apparently had some '04 only parts, so some people advise against that year. The 05+ had a dual-plug head that increased fuel efficiency.
The sv650 isn't much of a step up from the gs, certainly more adjustability in it. Me personally I would stay away from Yamaha but you yanks seem to love them. Way I think the jap manufactures are so focused on what each other is doing they all make virtually the same thing. If you want real variety go to Europe.
Quote from: Twisted on January 25, 2013, 04:04:33 PM
Quote from: jacob92icu on January 25, 2013, 03:18:28 PM
Hyosung actually make the Suzuki 650 twin. So who's knocking who off?
Hyosung and the SV650 are not even close. I implore you to go over to the SV forums with these assertions.
I purchased an SV650 before I sold my GS500 to make sure it was the bike I wanted. I did find the way the two bikes carried their weight to be one of the biggest differences. The GS feels like a honda 50 the way that it wants to sit on the ground. The SV carries its weight up top and is much more bulk to handle.
After purchasing the SV I still rode my GS but the SV is a smoother, faster, more refined machine.
Okay I have to point this out. I see a lot of people comparing SV650S to SV650 (not the S model). They both have the same frame, tank, seat, everything... except for the front end (cowl sub-frame isn't bolted on to the frame).
So... I'm just confused as to how the seating angle is different? I can imagine the handlebars might be at a different height, but I doubt even that.
Or, I'm wrong entirely and there's significant differences between S and non-S models. I've never sat on a non-S model, so I lack the experience. However, I rebuild salvage bikes and I'm familiar with the similarities in Suzuki motorcycles, mainly so I can get compatible parts easier. So I'm "somewhat" confident in this.
Nothing really different about the 'front end' on the SV650'S' and SV650'N'. The 'S' has a half-fairing, while the 'N' only has a small cowling over the headlight ~ what they used to call a 'bikini fairing'.
The 'S' has clipons. The 'N' has handlebars. The rear subframe/seat is the same, but the handlebars on the 'N' give a little more upright riding position. Suzuki thought the 'N' model would be used more in cities, while the 'S' would get some travelling between cities so the gearing is a little different ~ the 'N' model being geared to rev higher for better roll-on acceleration, while the 'S' revs a little lower for longer distances at a higher road speed.
Quote from: SAFE-T on January 28, 2013, 09:03:27 AM
Nothing really different about the 'front end' on the SV650'S' and SV650'N'. The 'S' has a half-fairing, while the 'N' only has a small cowling over the headlight ~ what they used to call a 'bikini fairing'.
The 'S' has clipons. The 'N' has handlebars. The rear subframe/seat is the same, but the handlebars on the 'N' give a little more upright riding position. Suzuki thought the 'N' model would be used more in cities, while the 'S' would get some travelling between cities so the gearing is a little different ~ the 'N' model being geared to rev higher for better roll-on acceleration, while the 'S' revs a little lower for longer distances at a higher road speed.
"In addition to the obvious differences between the S and non-S models (with the S-model sprouting a frame-mounted quarter fairing, clip-ons to replace the standard bike's tubular handlebar and more rearset footpegs), the unfaired SV has a slightly longer swingarm and wheelbase, footpegs that are lower and further forward, one-tooth-shorter final gearing and a hair more trail thanks to triple clamps with 1.5mm less offset. Note the new oil cooler on both versions"
Where did you find that ? I am floored that Suzuki would bother to put a longer swingarm and different triple clamps on the 'N' model, along with different footpegs.
Quote from: SAFE-T on January 29, 2013, 07:57:36 AM
Where did you find that ? I am floored that Suzuki would bother to put a longer swingarm and different triple clamps on the 'N' model, along with different footpegs.
Oops. meant to edit that out. The rest is true, but it doesn't have a different swingarm, the swingarms are the same, but the S uses a shorter chain (108 vs 110) along with 1 tooth smaller rear sprocket, which gives a slightly shorter wheelbase.
From SVrider.com.
SV650S top speed is 135... my buddy has one... no iffs and or buts... he is almost at redline in 6th at that speed and is wind limited.
I vote for the F4i, they are beautiful bikes, very very comfortable, sit almost like the GS500 with 89 clipons (maybe a hair more forward).
I love mine!
Quote from: crzydood17 on January 29, 2013, 11:57:44 PM
SV650S top speed is 135... my buddy has one... no iffs and or buts... he is almost at redline in 6th at that speed and is wind limited.
I vote for the F4i, they are beautiful bikes, very very comfortable, sit almost like the GS500 with 89 clipons (maybe a hair more forward).
I love mine!
Yep, anywhere between 125-135. Usually closer to the lower.
Quote from: crzydood17 on January 29, 2013, 11:57:44 PM
SV650S top speed is 135... my buddy has one... no iffs and or buts... he is almost at redline in 6th at that speed and is wind limited.
I vote for the F4i, they are beautiful bikes, very very comfortable, sit almost like the GS500 with 89 clipons (maybe a hair more forward).
I love mine!
I like the "no iffs and or buts" because I have recently gotten my stock 06 sv650s to 150 mph. You gotta keep on it after 135 for about a minute, but it'll get there. I know I already defended this, but... the no iffs or butts made me chuckle.
And thank you SAFE-T for the insight to the N model. I figured it was the handlebar vs clip-ons that made the seating angle difference, but wasn't aware of the other information.
Quote from: Twisted on January 25, 2013, 04:04:33 PMHyosung actually make the Suzuki 650 twin.
i am offended
Quote from: SAFE-T on January 26, 2013, 06:58:31 PM
The '04 apparently had some '04 only parts, so some people advise against that year. The 05+ had a dual-plug head that increased fuel efficiency.
It's the 03 that has specific parts (subframe, seat). 04+ are all the same, bodywork wise.
Quote from: mcg2000 on January 31, 2013, 11:56:08 PM
Quote from: crzydood17 on January 29, 2013, 11:57:44 PM
SV650S top speed is 135... my buddy has one... no iffs and or buts... he is almost at redline in 6th at that speed and is wind limited.
I vote for the F4i, they are beautiful bikes, very very comfortable, sit almost like the GS500 with 89 clipons (maybe a hair more forward).
I love mine!
I like the "no iffs and or buts" because I have recently gotten my stock 06 sv650s to 150 mph. You gotta keep on it after 135 for about a minute, but it'll get there. I know I already defended this, but... the no iffs or butts made me chuckle.
And thank you SAFE-T for the insight to the N model. I figured it was the handlebar vs clip-ons that made the seating angle difference, but wasn't aware of the other information.
There's a video on youtube of someone hitting 143. Of course, given that Sv's speedos run anywhere from 8-10% high, that would put him (and you) in the right range.
Whoa now, the speedometers are reported to 8-10% error? That's a HUGE error margin for electronics! I wanna find a way to test the accuracy of it now. Maybe someone in my engineering department will have the right tools... I'd actually be pissed if it was that far off. I mean, what would I tell the :police: when he asked if I knew how fast I was going without lying? Geesh... lol.
Quote from: mcg2000 on February 02, 2013, 01:46:03 PM
Whoa now, the speedometers are reported to 8-10% error? That's a HUGE error margin for electronics! I wanna find a way to test the accuracy of it now. Maybe someone in my engineering department will have the right tools... I'd actually be pissed if it was that far off. I mean, what would I tell the :police: when he asked if I knew how fast I was going without lying? Geesh... lol.
A GPS with speed tracking should be all you need.
I rode a kawa zx-14 and a zx-10 today gotta say those are some nice bikes right there. First gear goes all the way to 90 and then some.
Quote from: Mechmech on February 02, 2013, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: mcg2000 on February 02, 2013, 01:46:03 PM
Whoa now, the speedometers are reported to 8-10% error? That's a HUGE error margin for electronics! I wanna find a way to test the accuracy of it now. Maybe someone in my engineering department will have the right tools... I'd actually be pissed if it was that far off. I mean, what would I tell the :police: when he asked if I knew how fast I was going without lying? Geesh... lol.
A GPS with speed tracking should be all you need.
That's true, except I don't think gps accounts for elevation change. I could also drive a determined distance and time it, but I'd like to see error as a function of speed, then complain to Suzuki lol.
Quote from: mcg2000 on February 04, 2013, 05:48:33 PM
Quote from: Mechmech on February 02, 2013, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: mcg2000 on February 02, 2013, 01:46:03 PM
Whoa now, the speedometers are reported to 8-10% error? That's a HUGE error margin for electronics! I wanna find a way to test the accuracy of it now. Maybe someone in my engineering department will have the right tools... I'd actually be pissed if it was that far off. I mean, what would I tell the :police: when he asked if I knew how fast I was going without lying? Geesh... lol.
A GPS with speed tracking should be all you need.
That's true, except I don't think gps accounts for elevation change. I could also drive a determined distance and time it, but I'd like to see error as a function of speed, then complain to Suzuki lol.
I can kinda see what their reasoning might be tho. Say your acceptable margin of error for speedos is ±5%. If you try to calibrate to normal speed, you might end up with a bunch of speedos that report speeds slower than true--in which case you'd get customers pulled over for going at what they thought was the speed limit.
If, instead, you calibrate it to +5% in the first case, the entire plausible margin of error is in the slower-than-you-think department which, although it may anger the rider, it won't get them in legal trouble (which in turn might tarnish the brand's name).
This is just pure speculation and mental wanking tho, so ignore me :P
That was pretty good mental wanking Mechmech. Good point.
Quote from: dry_humor on February 01, 2013, 05:54:45 AM
Quote from: Twisted on January 25, 2013, 04:04:33 PMHyosung actually make the Suzuki 650 twin.
i am offended
don't be. hyosung makes stuff. a lot of stuff. bad body work, bad fit/finish, cheap controls sourced from other, even cheaper suppliers.....
but the engine works are good. very very good.
Quote from: mcg2000 on January 25, 2013, 11:04:58 PM
I find that hard to believe. A GSXR 600 can only do 155 mph and has 30 more horsepower. I've never heard of a stock SV doing more than 135 mph stock or 140 mph with extensive modifications.
Has the OP considered a Hyosung GT650R? I've never ridden one, but my buddy just picked up one of the older carb'd versions in mint condition for $1500 and he seems to like it
(http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/i_2012_GT650R.jpg)
Dude... Ever heard of gear ratios? Just because an engine has more horsepower doesn't mean the bike will go faster. Your rotational speeds will vary from the engine to the wheel thanks to the transmission, which is geared differently for each bike (or model, etc.). The amount of teeth on your sprocket also affect the ratio. Come out to Starkville, MS and I'll ride side by side with you at 150 MPH on my stock geared 06 Suzuki SV650S. Anyways, a GSX-R is a racing bike, so it'll be geared more towards acceleration, which sacrifices top speed.
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mmm, you're going to find more top speed variances from the fairing and tuck of the rider than a +1/-1 on the sprockets. try sitting up at 100mph, let alone 135. no DONT. it's like tossing out a f%$king anchor, and it HURTS.
i really just looked at this thread to see what the OP decided on for an upgrade on bikes. the hyosung bashing made me laugh a little, now i'm just hoping the OP comes around and tells us what he likes / dislikes.
:)
Hah. Tilt up at 135+ and hold on to the handlebar tight, because you'll do the superman! Always gets the ladies...
ALL speedos read Higher Than Actual - only the amount varies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTT_Turbine_Superbike
I suggest this!! .. Dated it may be!! But I reckon it'd cruise ok!
Have you considered a Honda VFR800? The 06+ yrs are the best, but all are good back to 01. VFRs tend to be looked after. $5-7k will get you a pristine example.
Now that man ^ is an ideas man. Why did we forget about this bike?
Quote from: Janx101 on February 06, 2013, 03:00:18 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTT_Turbine_Superbike
I suggest this!! .. Dated it may be!! But I reckon it'd cruise ok!
That is one smexy bike. JS.
Quote from: gti5notrkt on February 06, 2013, 10:32:56 AM
Have you considered a Honda VFR800? The 06+ yrs are the best, but all are good back to 01. VFRs tend to be looked after. $5-7k will get you a pristine example.
I like them but they're expensive up here. Truth is i'm not going to spend 5-7 k on a bike. maybe 2.5k-4k at tops.
this spring I will be test riding some bikes and then I'll make my final choice. It seems to risky to just jump on one and go.
Everyone gave great ideas too.
SO after I test ride i'll write a review like other people did. in this lineup :
as well as cbr 600 f4i
and a z1000/ zx-6r
Quote from: BassWoW on February 07, 2013, 10:21:30 AM
SO after I test ride i'll write a review like other people did. in this lineup :
as well as cbr 600 f4i
and a z1000/ zx-6r
The last 3 you mentioned are rockets so take it easy
Quote from: BassWoW on February 07, 2013, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: Janx101 on February 06, 2013, 03:00:18 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTT_Turbine_Superbike
I suggest this!! .. Dated it may be!! But I reckon it'd cruise ok!
That is one smexy bike. JS.
Quote from: gti5notrkt on February 06, 2013, 10:32:56 AM
Have you considered a Honda VFR800? The 06+ yrs are the best, but all are good back to 01. VFRs tend to be looked after. $5-7k will get you a pristine example.
I like them but they're expensive up here. Truth is i'm not going to spend 5-7 k on a bike. maybe 2.5k-4k at tops.
this spring I will be test riding some bikes and then I'll make my final choice. It seems to risky to just jump on one and go.
Everyone gave great ideas too.
SO after I test ride i'll write a review like other people did. in this lineup :
as well as cbr 600 f4i
and a z1000/ zx-6r
be mindful while you're test riding. all of the bikes you listed will break the back tire loose very easily, whereas the gs wouldn't in same conditions.
there is no fz650, there is a fz600/fz600s though. might want to put the ninja 650 on your list. it's very close to the gs ergonomics, and the versys also.
:)
Quote from: ohgood on February 08, 2013, 05:20:31 AM
Quote from: BassWoW on February 07, 2013, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: Janx101 on February 06, 2013, 03:00:18 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTT_Turbine_Superbike
I suggest this!! .. Dated it may be!! But I reckon it'd cruise ok!
That is one smexy bike. JS.
Quote from: gti5notrkt on February 06, 2013, 10:32:56 AM
Have you considered a Honda VFR800? The 06+ yrs are the best, but all are good back to 01. VFRs tend to be looked after. $5-7k will get you a pristine example.
I like them but they're expensive up here. Truth is i'm not going to spend 5-7 k on a bike. maybe 2.5k-4k at tops.
this spring I will be test riding some bikes and then I'll make my final choice. It seems to risky to just jump on one and go.
Everyone gave great ideas too.
SO after I test ride i'll write a review like other people did. in this lineup :
as well as cbr 600 f4i
and a z1000/ zx-6r
be mindful while you're test riding. all of the bikes you listed will break the back tire loose very easily, whereas the gs wouldn't in same conditions.
there is no fz650, there is a fz600/fz600s though. might want to put the ninja 650 on your list. it's very close to the gs ergonomics, and the versys also.
:)
Lol Sorry i've been extremely sick the last two weeks...wasn't thinking there!
What do you mean break the tire loose?
Quote from: BassWoW on February 08, 2013, 08:26:02 AM
Quote from: ohgood on February 08, 2013, 05:20:31 AM
Quote from: BassWoW on February 07, 2013, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: Janx101 on February 06, 2013, 03:00:18 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTT_Turbine_Superbike
I suggest this!! .. Dated it may be!! But I reckon it'd cruise ok!
That is one smexy bike. JS.
Quote from: gti5notrkt on February 06, 2013, 10:32:56 AM
Have you considered a Honda VFR800? The 06+ yrs are the best, but all are good back to 01. VFRs tend to be looked after. $5-7k will get you a pristine example.
I like them but they're expensive up here. Truth is i'm not going to spend 5-7 k on a bike. maybe 2.5k-4k at tops.
this spring I will be test riding some bikes and then I'll make my final choice. It seems to risky to just jump on one and go.
Everyone gave great ideas too.
SO after I test ride i'll write a review like other people did. in this lineup :
as well as cbr 600 f4i
and a z1000/ zx-6r
be mindful while you're test riding. all of the bikes you listed will break the back tire loose very easily, whereas the gs wouldn't in same conditions.
there is no fz650, there is a fz600/fz600s though. might want to put the ninja 650 on your list. it's very close to the gs ergonomics, and the versys also.
:)
Lol Sorry i've been extremely sick the last two weeks...wasn't thinking there!
What do you mean break the tire loose?
If you're too hard on the throttle in the corners, they make enough power to slide the rear wheel and send you to your impending doom.
ahh now that would be bad. I remember my first sharp turn two years back..and trust me i was almost on the sidewalk by the end of the turn.
Scary stuff
The FZ6 is a different bike than an SV in that it is more of an upright sports-tourer with a decent amount of legroom. The SV is a better sport bike, but less comfortable. You will likely grow to like either engine given time.
How could you deny the sexiness of an FZ6 (with some light mods) :cool::
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/photobucket-5890-1342218131624.jpg)
Quote from: ver4 on February 10, 2013, 01:21:24 AM
How could you deny the sexiness of an FZ6 (with some light mods) :cool::
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l400/sphsfootballstar/photobucket-5890-1342218131624.jpg)
that's a nice one. sold mine for more than i paid with 33K miles on it. great engine, but i didn't like the poor slow speed throttle response. anything over 35mph was fantastic. excellent fuel economy, perfectly reliable (yamaha!), and very good exhaust note through the twin scorpions ;-)
but, i'd rather have a v like a sv650 for the low down smooth grunt. just me :)
A'98-'01 VFR800 should be within your price range. I've had a VF750, a VFR700, a VFR750 and a VFR800 along with other bikes along the way. For some reason the 5th gen '98-'01 is always similarly priced to the 4th gen '94-'97 VFR750, although the 800 was mechanically superior with fuel-injection and linked brakes. My favorite was the 4th gen '94-'97 VFR750 because it was a little lighter and more compact, but it's also getting a little long in the tooth with carburators and an odd-size 170 rear tire. But it was the nicest to ride for me. The 5th gen VFR800 '98-'01 moved the gear-driven cam tower from the middle of the motor to one side, which gives it a lot more gear noise. Probably why they moved back to belt drive in 2002.
I've ridden the FZ6 and FZ6r ~ they feel pretty much the same up to 10,000 rpm ~ beyond that the older FZ6 has another 20hp but by then you are going pretty quick anyway.
I guess I don't understand these kind of threads.
"The GS 500 is a great bike, but I wish I had something else,....... anything else"
Great, but dull like a garden tractor. I would get another one if the price was right and I could afford an FJR1300 to replace my VFR800. On it's own there are just too many other bikes out there for not much more money that are simply better. But I loved its mellow simplicity for short trips and around town. It was even OK on the highway for about an hour, but after that it got tiresome winding it out to get any giddyap. Maybe if I had a bike trailer to pull it someplace fun to ride ~ about 5hrs from here ~ a GS500F would make an OK only bike.
My next bike will be a CB 500 or CB 1100.
My GS will last as long as GSJack's bike. Cause we Ohioans know how to roll.
And we are tough and ride in the winter.
And while you're all (or at least some of you) are looking for your next bigger more powerful bike, I'm just looking to for a GS500 to upgrade to... ;-)
Guess I just haven't found the right deal yet. And for winter riding, yep I'm there too. Rode to work this morning as per usual and just turned over 85k miles a few days ago. Good luck with your search for your next bike.
Tony
Quote from: jestercinti on February 14, 2013, 07:14:17 PM
My next bike will be a CB 500 or CB 1100.
My GS will last as long as GSJack's bike. Cause we Ohioans know how to roll.
And we are tough and ride in the winter.
:thumb:
old Man in Aust has 200,000kms on his GS - but that includes a rebuild somewhere along the way.
I aim to follow in GSJack's footsteps too. So far I have 60,000+kms on mine. To get to 100,000 Miles I'll need to be 160,000kms. So only 100,000 to go :woohoo:
Quote from: Steve146 on February 14, 2013, 04:40:59 PM
I guess I don't understand these kind of threads.
"The GS 500 is a great bike, but I wish I had something else,....... anything else"
ride more bikes ! there is no perfect machine, no perfect motorcycle, no perfect tire. they all have benefits and can make you smile, or grimace.
some folks will modify through any expense, for the sake of modifying. others sell and swap until they find the thing that fits just right (for now).
there's a guy on advrider that is turning a gs500 into a dualsport. another used a cb500. others took gsx-r's and R1's around the world.
find what you like, and enjoy it :)
And there's me, the guy that wants a cafe GS, and an R6.
Screw this one bike life!
Quote from: mustangGT90210 on February 17, 2013, 05:56:35 PM
And there's me, the guy that wants a cafe GS, and an R6.
Screw this one bike life!
:thumb: hearin ya!!...
i want that many different bikes .. all to have a good solid go on too... that i might need an alternate timeline to sneak over to!! .. so the missus dont think ive been kidnapped or something... :icon_lol:
Just an answer to the big question- sticking with the gs - then this year adding a crusier so I can reap all the benefits =]
Well that's a different direction
I can only LOL at this... :icon_lol:
Though, what you have done here BassWow is messed with the fragile phsychi of riders everywhere... The prospect of a new bike is a delicate topic if aren't going to go through with it... you can't just say I'm looking for a new bike, go through the whole exciting weighing process of new and different options, with heated discussion, and then just rip it all away! It really hurts. :cry:
That being said... I would keep my GS too! :cool:
- Bboy
Quote from: BockinBboy on March 07, 2013, 09:14:06 AM
I can only LOL at this... :icon_lol:
Though, what you have done here BassWow is messed with the fragile phsychi of riders everywhere... The prospect of a new bike is a delicate topic if aren't going to go through with it... you can't just say I'm looking for a new bike, go through the whole exciting weighing process of new and different options, with heated discussion, and then just rip it all away! It really hurts. :cry:
That being said... I would keep my GS too! :cool:
- Bboy
Ehh life happened- Wife wanted a new car...thought oh ya two cars would be nice in the just in case situation... 20 k later I regret this and now cant afford the bike!