Ok so the how and why isn't important but I overfilled the oil. Before that the bike was running fine. I realized my mistake and drained it then refilled it. I did a ton of reading and checked a few things. Replaced spark plugs, checked air filter and box and there was no oil in there. Cranked the engine without spark plugs and nothing came out. I currently have the spark plugs out and letting it sit over night just in case it flooded and needs to dry out.
Any suggestions guys? I just wanna get this thing up and running so I can sell it and never have to look at it again.
Any help at all? Lol
give them a chance Shadow ;) .... could be so many things.. bad or trivial... you gonna get a whole heap of 'more info' and 'explain further' requests before a solve i reckon :thumb:
fuel level? need more info OP. we'll do our best to help you solve this minor issue
Fuel is fine I just added plenty to the tank. But I was thinking that it could possibly be a fuel issue but considering that the bike seemed okay before I made the oil mistake, it must be a problem stemming from that.
Your bike is fukked. Only solution is to sell it to me for $50. I'll even throw in a mars bars on top. We have a deal?
I'd start with the basics first. Compression, fuel, and spark. I have zero experience with over filling oil, but if it's not starting I want to say the internal pressure was so high that it blew something out of tolerance (and low compression).
Did you actually try to start it with the extra oil, or did you realise the mistake and drain it, then try to start it?
If so the problem wont be related and you need to consider the usual suspects, sparks fuel etc.
You have to put a LOT of extra oil in there before it becomes a serious problem :thumb:
See Shadow! I Tole ya!! .... 'Cept for mister .. He's just trying to rip you off!!! ... I'll give you $100 and a carton of your preferred beer!! ...
(THWAP!!!!!!!!!!) ... Take that mister you skinflint!! :flipoff:
This may sound silly but in your evaluation of the problem did you remove the tank and forget to open the tankcock valve when you put the tank back on? I've done that twice already. That would explain why the bike won't start.
Before you do anything, drain ALL oil out of your GS, then fill to the correct level.
You need 3 things for an Internal Combustion Engine to work:
Fuel/air mixture
Spark
Compression
Check for strong spark, condition of plugs FIRST.
NEXT try fuel. Are you getting gas? Is it pig rich/lean?
Finally try compression. Put your thumb over the spark plug hole. Should be a definitive "pop".
Sorry I should I stated that I did run the bike for about a minute before it died. Then it would no longer start. The plugs are sparking, and the thumb compression test yielded a positive result. The air was enough to keep my thumb from stay on the hole. So that just leaves fuel right?
I did just notice that one of the fuel receiver on the carb was discontented. But idk if I accidentally did that last time I took the air box or if it's been like that since the problem occurred. Need to check on that for sure.
Quote from: Shadow Camaro on April 08, 2013, 11:44:28 AM
I did just notice that one of the fuel receiver on the carb was discontented. But idk if I accidentally did that last time I took the air box or if it's been like that since the problem occurred. Need to check on that for sure.
Check all fuel hoses and petcocks. Make sure gas is flowing. No gas, no go.
With only fuel in the carb and the choke on, my bike only ran for about a minute (didnt turn tank petcock back on).
Quote from: skunkteeth on April 08, 2013, 12:18:33 PM
With only fuel in the carb and the choke on, my bike only ran for about a minute (didnt turn tank petcock back on).
Sounds about right for what;s just in the carbs.
Soooo..... turn the tank on and what happens?
I'll match Janx's offer and sweeten the deal with a packet of TimTams on top. :thumb:
I would strongly suggest taking a look at the plugs. I have never overfilled oil but I have flooded a motor and got gas in the oil and that will foul the plugs very fast. Im not sure if overfilling the oil would cause the oil to push past the wiper ring. That being said its no big deal when this happens but make sure the spark plugs are good, It can't hurt to just replace them to be safe so you can totally rule them out.
Quote from: mister on April 08, 2013, 02:51:15 PM
I'll match Janx's offer and sweeten the deal with a packet of TimTams on top. :thumb:
:icon_eek: :dunno_white: ... TimTams and beer?!?!?>.. you really dont drink do you!!... yeah i know you said it lots.. but .. sheeeeeeit!!
hmmm... 100 .. carton of preferred beer.. and carton of pork rinds!! ...
timtams... pffffft!!
The bike is up an running!!!!! Turn out that I didn't connect that tiny hose that goes from the petcock to that little tube on the side of the carbs wants connected. So yeah! Runs good, idling at about 1500 (smaller front sprocket) and everything seems great. Had to adjust the clutch cable a lot before it was good though. Small rattling sound from clutch cover. Thinking new clutch soon maybe?
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phew ... lucky.... the missus would have had my 'nads in a sling if i bought another bike right now :icon_lol:
Would not hurt to remove the plugs and clean. Brush, then just a few strokes with fine sandpaper on the center electrode and ground electrode (the underside where the spark occurs). This will cause no harm, and remove the plugs as the culprit.
i put new plugs in as soon as i had the problem guys. plugs are brand now now. just to be clearn lol. Wondering about that clutch now...
That adjustment screw isn't stripped or messed up in some way is it? Messed up in some way to cause alot of 'adjustment' and little results.
Rattling though? I don't think I have heard a rattling clutch from a bike before... but you can hear a 'rattle' from a worn clutch on an engine under load in too high of gear I suppose? :dunno_black:
- Bboy
I Guess a better way to describe it would actually be a light grinding noise. I say light because it not that bad. Dont hear it at idle or at higher speeds but as the rpms start to slow back down to idle is when i hear it the most.
The adjustment screw by the engine isnt stripped. Also, i only adjusted that one. I didnt attempt an adjustment by the clutch handle. I may do some of that after class.
YouTube video time.
It figures. When things seem to suck at their worst, it's cuz there no suck. That little bastard of a vacuum hose gets you every time.http://gstwins.com/gsboard/Smileys/New_Smile/thumbup.gif