Finally I have managed to source the K&N pod filters here in Australia :)
The K&N pods plus stock exhaust is what I will have to use for a while. I have done a search and seen a few posts on settings people have suggested for this combination. Those that are/have used this setup please post the jetting configuration you felt worked best ie:
Main jet size
Air mixture turns
Number washers under the needle clip (or raised notches)
Thanks very much in advance,
Conrad
I doubt if anyone has got it to run right with that set up. K&N's and stock pipe... But if you must, try 145 mains, 1 (1/2 mm thick) washer under each needle and 3 turns on air screws as a start.
Cool.
Srinath.
yeah, i couldnt get it to run right.... but didnt try all that much since I happened to get an exhaust around the same time (and also because winter happened and forced me to take my bike indoors).. but i had tried 147.5 main w/ 40 pilots. oh, just reread thread, i didnt have pods but clampon....
btw- 147.5 was too rich... apply any throttle and it just bogged.. (at least i think that was the case, i'm no expert)
Ok, I run PODS, with stock exhaust. I really wouldn't suggest it, since my bike hasn't run all that well since I made the switch. I noticed some top-end, and mid-rev improvement, but at low speeds, my bike bogs a little. The biggest pain in the ass in having to run the bike on PRI all the time, so I have to go like 10 minutes between gas stations. ;) It's annoying enough that I'm going to take my pods out, put my stock airbox back in, and re-do the jetting. So, if anyone wants a set of K&N pods, just let me know. I won't be making the switch until the spring, but I'm just throwing it out there.
Why prime... what's that got to do with pods or airbox.
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Srinath.
Do people have trouble rejettin for Cobra pipes too? I know you don't necessarily have to rejett to use a Cobra pipe so i wasn't sure if it would be a problem using pod/Cobra.
Pod and slip on is easy. The real difference between slip on and stock pipe is 1 main jet. If you have a stock bike 125 mians, with slip on 127.5. OK however most people dont ever get the bike right with 147.5 mians when using stock pipe and pods, and even 145 doesn't seem to do it. Anyway pod and slip on is easy. 150/40/3 turns/1 washer is it.
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Srinath.
Wow, that's good to know. I was thinking about running pods + stock pipe. Seeing as how no one can get it to run correctly, I think I'll save up a little more cash and get the slip on too. Question: will any slip on work? Say I get a welder to put a slip on from another bike on it, should I have any problems?
BTW: nice handlebars Srinath. I just picked mine up, and the build quality is really nice. I really don't think I'm even going to need bar ends.
Yes on the muffler off a sport bike can... any damn can you can get your hands on... as long as its aftermarket. Or in other words... if it atleast has a nickel sized hole through it... its going to be fine.
Thanks on the handle bars. I made and destroyed/rejected over 5 models before I made the one I ended up making a bunch of.
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Srinath.
Chimivee had this combination as he posted in the rejetting matrix. I was hoping maybe others could conform his setup as he said his was fine!!
Quote from: chimiveeQuote from: jiggersplatanyone got the scoop on just a k&n pod, no exhaust?
dan
That's my set up right now.
K&N Pod, stock exhaust: 40 pilots, 2.5 turns out, 2 washers (~1.2mm), 147.5 mains. I think others have used smaller mains - more like 140. I started w/ 145's and my bike runs better w/ the 147.5's. Plugs look just about right - definately not rich. I rode Pkaaso's bike the other day (K&N, slip-on, 150 mains) and it felt comparable - maybe just a tiny bit more pull at the top end. So I think my mains are just right. My low-mid throttle seems maybe a little bit soft, but not sure if it's abnormally so.
Cheers
Conrad
what do the washers under the needle do? i now they raise the needle but how does that help....when i rejeted my carbs i put 2 washers under each needle...i didn't start my bike yet since i'm painting the gas tank but would it be better if i just use 1 washer or no washers at all?
Quote from: AR5ENALWow, that's good to know. I was thinking about running pods + stock pipe. Seeing as how no one can get it to run correctly, I think I'll save up a little more cash and get the slip on too. Question: will any slip on work? Say I get a welder to put a slip on from another bike on it, should I have any problems?
BTW: nice handlebars Srinath. I just picked mine up, and the build quality is really nice. I really don't think I'm even going to need bar ends.
There is no reason tyhat it would be harder to get the bike jetted right with pods and a stock exhaust than with pods and a slip on. The biggest restriction in the system is the stock air-box and filter - the biggest improvement in air flow is going to the pod filters. My 2001 went from a stock 127.5 main to a 142.5 and ran great after I got the needle (two washers - the Radio Shak kind - not sure of thckness) and the idle mixture screws set right. If I recall correctly I had the screws out about 4 turns until I put in one size larger pilot jets & then it went to about 3 turns out and took out one washer. I only had it that way for a month or so before I added a slop-on. With the slip-on I ended up at 150 main jets.
Ok, just to conclude this thread. I decided to give the K&N pods with a stock exhaust a go. As done by others I fitted 147.5 main jets and lifted the needle one notch with the screws out 2.5 to 3 turns (1996 Australian spec bike).
The result was at WOT(wide open throttle) in the hight RPM region she hooked :) , but at WOT in the low and middle rpm region she was too rich and would bog down :guns:
So for now the stock airbox and main jets are back in until a performance pipe is fitted. :(
I also fabricated a custom airbox for the pod filters with fibreglass to for protection and to dampen the noise a little (did the tuning without it fitted), the custom box had the bottom left open for good airflow and whilst it didn't remove the induction noise it did improve the note by making it deeper.
Cheers
Conrad