OK has the buddha lost his mind ?
Apparently.
OK Some Jonway POS 50cc wont start.
Its got 1 missing carb top screw.
It needs a valve adjustment - likely, but apparently it has started with a good battery but not the crappy one ... WTF is a crappy battery doing in it in the first place - no clue.
Kick starter - broken off - just as well, I aint kicking nothing.
Any one has an extra insight into these ?
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Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on June 21, 2013, 12:10:54 PM
OK has the buddha lost his mind ?
Apparently.
OK Some Jonway POS 50cc wont start.
Its got 1 missing carb top screw.
It needs a valve adjustment - likely, but apparently it has started with a good battery but not the crappy one ... WTF is a crappy battery doing in it in the first place - no clue.
Kick starter - broken off - just as well, I aint kicking nothing.
Any one has an extra insight into these ?
Cool.
Buddha.
Yup. got one in carport. its senn in almost all of my goped trail ripper videos. same issues. carb is crap electric choke sucks ass. replace wiht a mikuni and manual choke. its owner was supposed to pick it up 4 mos ago. last week he said ill be there in 2 days. thids was a week ago. im considering it abandoned. will start working on it soon. fairly easy to work on IIRC its a gy6 based unit
So what mikuni choke fits in it ?
Out of the GS ? If so - any preference - 89-00 vs 01-02 vs 04+ ?
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Buddha.
OOooo I need to get mikuni for it - like made for that motor.
Not shove the mikuni choke off the GS carbs in it ... that sucks cos the bloody mikuni boogers are $$$$$ ...
I'll see what I can do on this POS then.
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Buddha.
find a better manual choke carb same size. IIRC the manifold ( usually plastic) is on top of engine head. find a mikuni ( my preference lol) on ebay. even a trashed one and clean it. will make a HUGE difference on those.
a buddha build thread???
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I bought a non running 150cc Chinese scooter for the wife once.
Carb needed cleaning, several vac lines needed replacing, removed cheap vac petcock, valves needed adjusting and as said earlier, replaced the crap electric choke
After adjusting the valves, it was a turn key scooter. Getting rid of the petcock eliminated fuel starvation at anything over 50-55mph.
TONS of scooter parts all over the net and eBay. Good thing is they area dime a dozen and all parts are cheap
no mikunis made for the chinascooters. just have to measure the venturi, and jet sizes, and find a mikuni or ANYTHING not chinese. and swap it in. youd be the better man for it. youd be ALOT happier
OK I am getting it to crank like a mofo, but not make a peep ... and the exhaust no gas smell ...
The next to check - valve clearance, compression and spark.
Then the carb comes off.
I am not throwing in the towel ... and buying a 70 buck carb yet ...
I may get the CVK keihein ... cheaper than mikuni. I'll keep you posted.
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Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on June 25, 2013, 09:36:21 AM
OK I am getting it to crank like a mofo, but not make a peep ... and the exhaust no gas smell ...
The next to check - valve clearance, compression and spark.
Then the carb comes off.
I am not throwing in the towel ... and buying a 70 buck carb yet ...
I may get the CVK keihein ... cheaper than mikuni. I'll keep you posted.
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Buddha.
aye a keihin or a mik. either one. really anything with manual choke.
OK this bugger seems to not want the spark plug to thread in right and seems to be puffing out the plug hole.
The petcock doesn't seem to want to flow ... its vacuum operated ... and What a POS ... though I think a mid 80's honda may fit that ...
And the carb was full of fuel ...
And WTF is that drain ? the hose has a pinch on the bottom, that's what's keeping it from draining mid ride ? WTF ...
I may have to give up on it ... it may be a lost cause. Fool has another scooter ... maybe the spark plug on that will not puff ...
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Buddha.
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I dont do that ...
Most people that abuse bikes or cars or anything else for that matter fail to realise that it is an inanimate object. It may be a badly made and badly designed object, but still it is an object.
Anyway I will see why the plug dont thread in - it did day before yesterday.
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Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on June 26, 2013, 10:43:57 AM
I dont do that ...
Most people that abuse bikes or cars or anything else for that matter fail to realise that it is an inanimate object. It may be a badly made and badly designed object, but still it is an object.
Anyway I will see why the plug dont thread in - it did day before yesterday.
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Buddha.
Could it have cross-threaded?, there is th eoption of a heli-coil if need be
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on June 26, 2013, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on June 26, 2013, 10:43:57 AM
I dont do that ...
Most people that abuse bikes or cars or anything else for that matter fail to realise that it is an inanimate object. It may be a badly made and badly designed object, but still it is an object.
Anyway I will see why the plug dont thread in - it did day before yesterday.
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Buddha.
Could it have cross-threaded?, there is th eoption of a heli-coil if need be
It threaded fine day before. I found it wasn't clipping onto the cap. I had to open the cap and modify the clip ... I had to make an all new one in fact ...
I dunno the guy said it didn't thread in ... then we managed to get it in a month ago ... then it wont again.
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Buddha.
See if it fires on a dummy plug. not john but a true dummy plug. well a plug connected to teh HT
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on June 26, 2013, 01:27:18 PM
See if it fires on a dummy plug. not john but a true dummy plug. well a plug connected to teh HT
Fires out of the wire lead.
Its gotta get the plug fitted in right ... then I'll try getting into the carbs.
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Srinath.
chinabikes are fun to problem solve Eh?, to answer your original question, it is YES. the buddha has lost his mind. ages ago
with my 250 china scooter i learned quite a bit. one guy said 'dont buy a chinese bike unless you want to be a chinese bike fixing genius.' I'd still get another one. Actually I still have a scooter to fix, sooner or later. Plug on that one is an oddball that I can't seem to find. Backordered from scootersomething website two months ago,....
OK this a new one ...
WTF is a fuel line type metal receptacle doing right under the actual fuel line fitting and what goes to it ?
Its nearly back to running ... except that and the Idiotic spark plug helicoil debacle. As in some fool put a helicoil in the plug, and they only helicoiled the deepest part ... WTF - cant they put 2 ... couldn't they have put it in the outermost 6 instead of the inner most 6.
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Buddha.
LOL. if a head werent so pricy ( may not be ) find a new or NOW head with good threads, i dont recall if they make a double length helicoil or not
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on July 05, 2013, 06:50:51 AM
LOL. if a head werent so pricy ( may not be ) find a new or NOW head with good threads, i dont recall if they make a double length helicoil or not
I got the 12 thread heli sitting here.
The guy has a parts scooter - that is likely to have a good one, but I am not swapping the head. Its too much more than I can take up now.
Heli going in today I hope.
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Buddha.
[sarcasm]Gotta like the chinaheads Eh?[/sarcasm]
Other fuel inlet looking thing may be for an oil injection?
Post up a photo of this beast so we can picture the Buddha riding his scoots around :whisper: :icon_lol:
Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on July 05, 2013, 07:55:50 AM
Other fuel inlet looking thing may be for an oil injection?
Post up a photo of this beast so we can picture the Buddha riding his scoots around :whisper: :icon_lol:
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Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on July 05, 2013, 07:55:50 AM
Other fuel inlet looking thing may be for an oil injection?
Post up a photo of this beast so we can picture the Buddha riding his scoots around :whisper: :icon_lol:
The carb has a T feed off the vacuum from the manifold. This scootie did not have it ... ergo, it did not run.
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Buddha.
Frrrk. The spark plug - I managed to get a longer plug in ... cos the helicoil was too deep.
The bloody plug got clocked by the piston.
I dont have threads catching on the 1/2" reach plug.
The 3/4" reach plug (cr7es - same as the GSXR 750 96-99) is too long.
WTF ... the 1/2" plug is 1/4" or so in the hole - its sparking 1/4" away from where it can light up the fuel well ... no wonder these run like garbage.
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Buddha.
OK new plug is in, 3 crush washers and its not getting hit by the piston, and I have spark. However it wont start ... Why the hell wont it start ... gas, check, compression (I think) spark - yes ... still nothing.
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Buddha.
Scooters can be mongrels.. have had a few when I started my uni studies. FA-50 and Letts II 50cc.
Letts II had a a vacum petcock - never had any issues, but know from experience with vacum advances on cars that sometimes you can get a tiny hole in the vacum petcock diaphram that can prevent fuel from getting to the carb. but you have fuel, so probably not that issue. floats actually floating? flooding?
Other issue I had with my 50cc was that the fuel turned to jelly and blocked the idle jet, but it still started. had to deal to it with marine grade outboard carb cleaner..
Only other issue you may have is ignition timing, but usually fairly robust if you have a CDI on the scooter. could be a timing issue developing from damage to a wiring harness.
You tried persuading with some carb start? :thumb:
send him some start ya bastard. hell send me some too lol. i wonder if its getting fuel. once he gets the plug sorted, would be interested to see what happens next. ive got a nearly abandoned one in my carport. ( guy was sposed to collect it in mid jan. well, almost mid july now. )
Got fuel, got spark (a rather anaemic spark but spark nonetheless).
I cant get to it a few days. I'll probably start wit hdraining and replacing the fuel. It probably is a month+ old.
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Buddha.
OK I can get to run ...
But the stupid thing is puffing compression out the spark plug hole ... WTF. Any one have that happen ...
OK its got a long reach spark plug in a hole that has been helicoiled ...
But still ...
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Srinath.
I haven't had that happen with a sucessful helicoil kit - maybe if the plug thread didn't quite match with the insert... Either that, or it is expecting a set amount of thread in the way and the compression is too high for the new shorter thread path to deal with.
Was the helicoil stacked? I note one comment I found online:
A word about sparkplug hole repairs: The kits for sparkplug holes are slightly different. Instead of a spiral, the insert is solid. They cannot be stacked: the correct length that corresponds to the sparkplug reach must be selected. They are available in short, normal, and extended reaches.
Quote from: Kiwingenuity on July 18, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
I haven't had that happen with a sucessful helicoil kit - maybe if the plug thread didn't quite match with the insert... Either that, or it is expecting a set amount of thread in the way and the compression is too high for the new shorter thread path to deal with.
Was the helicoil stacked? I note one comment I found online:
A word about sparkplug hole repairs: The kits for sparkplug holes are slightly different. Instead of a spiral, the insert is solid. They cannot be stacked: the correct length that corresponds to the sparkplug reach must be selected. They are available in short, normal, and extended reaches.
The true spark plug thread is a timesert, or keyinsert, its like a hollow bolt, with threads on the inside. The outside threads are also a bit roughed up, like knurled so they bite into the head. However the reason we dont install true helicoils (wire wound like a spring) is the fact the install process needs the tang and then you have to remove the tang, and that will end up inside the chamber without a proper way to get it out. When the head is outside, helicoil, no problem. That is how this was installed.
Anyway I think my issue is one of a bad perception and not neccesarily a bad helicoil job. It has a single heli, in the last 6 threads, and i have had to install a longer reach spark plug with 3 crushwashers etc etc ....
It bothered me yesterday when I felt it and it was @ that spark plug wire plug. But the scootie runs ...
That means the puffs have to be gas laced ... else how would it run.
I had dry and non gas smelly puffing.
I think that fan was shovelling a lot of air, and the spark plug cap was channeling it to the point it felt like the air was chuffing out of there. I will check again and I'll know.
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Buddha.
Its alive.
Needed a valve adjustment, which I was reluctant to get into, that stupid thing was under, behind and freaking lower than the belly of a pregnant ant.
Anyway, it runs alright. Swapping some parts over form the parts scootie tomorow and off it goes never to darken my driveway again ... (yea right dream on - I give idiot friend a week to blow it up again)
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not too many china scoots i can depend on. unless its of the gy6 variety. cept for my 43cc china standup. 6 mos same plug. dependable as buddhas rants lol. rest are mediocre at best. cept theyve made me some money repairing them til owner gives up.
Apparently its got 300 mile oil change intervals and 300 mile valve check too ...
How will it start in winter without choke - no clue. Lets see what happens.
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Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on July 22, 2013, 09:17:59 AM
Apparently its got 300 mile oil change intervals and 300 mile valve check too ...
How will it start in winter without choke - no clue. Lets see what happens.
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Buddha.
Theyre a pain in the ass w/o choke. ether is your best friend