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Title: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: Snake2715 on July 06, 2013, 08:59:13 PM
Just curious if this has been done.. I imagine we someone who had a caliper measured them and found suitable replacements on say mcmaster.com etc..

I imagine we could put together a bulk buy and have enough around for entire rebuilds once we knew the sizes.

Just curious if this has been done by anyone?
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: RossLH on July 06, 2013, 09:01:52 PM
In other words...hey Adidasguy, can we store some stuff in the bike cave? :D
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: Snake2715 on July 06, 2013, 09:14:27 PM
Quote from: RossLH on July 06, 2013, 09:01:52 PM
In other words...hey Adidasguy, can we store some stuff in the bike cave? :D

I mean your looking at my local dealer a total of 21.86 + tax (I pay no shipping of course).

for 3 little orings.. 2 of each size a total of 6..


Jets are normally cleanable in all situations. I mean extremely rare to replace them.

Float bowl gaskets, sure if needed.. otherwise its just these little buggers:



O RING for 1989 SUZUKI GS500E 1989-1996
13509-17C00
$3.16 x 2 = 6.32


O-RING NEEDLE V for 1989 SUZUKI GS500E 1989-1996
13374-46710
$3.25 x2 = 6.50


O RING,NEEDLE V for 1989 SUZUKI GS500E 1989-1996
13374-35C00
$4.52 x2 = 9.04




Optionally needed and would still have to be ordered...


GASKET,FLOAT CH for 1989 SUZUKI GS500E 1989-1996
13258-44B00
$7.15 x2 = 14.30



But I imagine we could put together a package much cheaper. Maybe its not worth the time? If its not been done and no one has access to a caliper ( I dont own a caliper.. yet). Maybe I will look into doing it, but I wanted to ask first.


Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: Soloratov on July 06, 2013, 10:11:15 PM
I think your local shop is...well...bending you over. EIther that, or mine is just really great! I got some replacement rings for my carbs for about a buck each. Same shop that magically had what seems to be hard to come by jets too, so maybe I'm just a lucky one that has one of these useful parts guys. I would imagine you could get the same deal at an auto parts store, but as you mentioned, might need to measure first.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: Snake2715 on July 06, 2013, 10:20:09 PM
$25 on bikebandit for the same 2x of the 3 orings.. for a total of 6.

You have a damn good dealer apparently.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: Hairsonfire on July 06, 2013, 10:47:39 PM
My experience has been that it is TOUGH to find an o-ring that fits carbs correctly other than the ones intended for that. I have a kit that I bought off a Snap-On truck that has like 800 o-rings in it (I did a little hydraulics work on the side), and when I have tried they dont work. They are always a little too big, or a little too small. If you accurately measured the OEM rings, how would you find a match?


My bad, I opened my big mouth without realizing what o-rings you were talking about. The kit I have would certainly have the small orings in it, or a match that would be close enough. A little over size wouldnt hurt anything.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: Hairsonfire on July 06, 2013, 10:59:37 PM
Similar to the one I have, only smaller:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/407PC-Universal-O-Ring-Assortment-Kit-407-Pieces-ORING-Automotive-Equipment-New-/261105786584?hash=item3ccb1e1ed8&vxp=mtr


Or if you want to go uber heavy duty cuz:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-180-Piece-Viton-O-Ring-Kit-/271073532773?hash=item3f1d3ddb65&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: RossLH on July 06, 2013, 11:01:42 PM
Quote from: Hairsonfire on July 06, 2013, 10:47:39 PMIf you accurately measured the OEM rings, how would you find a match?

Get on Mcmaster or Amazon, find the Buna-N o-rings, and pick up a 100-pack of the closest size. Chances are they're metric, but if you can find a similarly sized imperial o-ring for significantly cheaper, I'm sure nobody will notice the difference.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: beRto on July 07, 2013, 04:39:26 AM
Quote from: Snake2715 on July 06, 2013, 08:59:13 PM
Just curious if this has been done.. I imagine we someone who had a caliper measured them and found suitable replacements on say mcmaster.com etc..

DoD#i has done this. It's in the carb sticky thread:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=56601.msg711291#msg711291

and here:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=61371.msg711105#msg711105

:cheers:
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: Snake2715 on July 07, 2013, 06:39:19 AM
thank you! I guess I should have read that whole sticky.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: The Buddha on July 07, 2013, 07:34:49 AM
I did for 89-00 - and I sell em for 89-00 - $10 shipped - but I also ask people to go to their local autoparts place and fit it and get it.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: The Buddha on July 07, 2013, 07:37:32 AM
BTW the original rings are odd sized - you wont find em even to order. Try 1.22 wall and 6.08 ID types.
I'd try the 1.5 X 6 ... if its not fitting, the 1 X 6 ... and some bike like the 1.5, others like the 1, and yet others dont like both.

That's why fitting it yourself @ the Oring bin @ autoparts place is a good idea.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: piresito on July 07, 2013, 08:41:56 AM
I've used O-rings from a speciality O-ring shop. I took the carbs to the shop and fitted them right in the place. I may have discussed in the board the diameters/thickness I measured at the time.
I know that the float oring was had  a certain thickness, but I prefered to fit 2 Orings of a lower thickness, side by side for a more snug fitting, tighter and more secure than stock. I my current GS500 I fitted one oring with the same measured thickness of a stock O-ring and in both cases, bikes still run like champs.
Just be sure that they are gas friendly....
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: piresito on July 07, 2013, 08:44:58 AM
Here it is:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=58875.msg670575#msg670575
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: Soloratov on July 07, 2013, 12:32:53 PM


Get on Mcmaster or Amazon, find the Buna-N o-rings, and pick up a 100-pack of the closest size. Chances are they're metric, but if you can find a similarly sized imperial o-ring for significantly cheaper, I'm sure nobody will notice the difference.
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This is why I had such good luck with my local dealer, they service every bike manufacturer except Harley...so cross reference and turns out that while they may be odd size, they aren't necessarily rare across the board. Helps they have a decent bin of rings too. I know we didn't really measure them that accurately, but I haven't had issues yet. McMaster would be your best bet for finding items though. MSCDirect as well as they have a large selection of metric items.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: RossLH on July 07, 2013, 12:50:45 PM
Quote from: Soloratov on July 07, 2013, 12:32:53 PMMcMaster would be your best bet for finding items though. MSCDirect as well as they have a large selection of metric items.

It is worth noting Amazon recently got into the industrial/scientific supplies (http://www.amazon.com/industrial-scientific-supplies/b?ie=UTF8&node=16310091) business. They have quite the supply of o-rings (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_eleven_b_1?rh=n%3A16310091%2Cn%3A%2116310161%2Cn%3A3021479011%2Cn%3A16413421%2Cn%3A16413611&bbn=16413611&ie=UTF8&qid=1373226558), and if you have a Prime subscription, free shipping. That'll probably end up being my go-to in the future due to convenience.
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: slipperymongoose on July 07, 2013, 01:10:39 PM
I took my outings into my local bearing, nut n bolt shop and they matched them for me there and then for like $8
Title: Re: Anyone ever used a caliper to measure carb orings so we can replace cheaper?
Post by: Suzuki Stevo on July 07, 2013, 01:10:59 PM
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