Well looks like Wednesday I pickup my 90 Black with a swap for my 92 Red XJ600. Currently un-registered the GS just needs a new front tyre and rego and its right to go. Looking forward to modding her up and bringing some shine back to her.
More photos of it in some sun, but this is the only one I have of it so far.
Golly from Australia (Western Side being Perth) WOOT! :cheers:
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Where are you located? (State?)
I had notices an Cj for trade for a GS on craigslist in Michigan, did not know if that was you? I cant recall the city as I search more than I should.
Cool man!! welcome to the site. MORE PICS! :thumb: :thumb:
Hey guys, cheers for that, Im from Australia, sorry didnt mention it, have fixed my end bit! haha... hope to pick it up soon enough, its got about 33,000k on the clock, not much considering I suppose is it ?
:thumb: Well I went out and picked the old girl up today. VIN number and REVS check listed her as a Red when original.
Here are some pics of it when it came home, sorry for bandwidth deprived people but Ive resized them but there is alot and a couple of shockers for you and I in the mix hahaha...
After a test ride, (now I wish I didnt when you see the pics) she starts first pop, a big flat spot around 4000 revs, but after that she pulls like a freight train and I was suprised how much more oooomph! the girl has compared to my XJ600 I had.
Come to pappa... you unloved beast.
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First touch down at home...
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This tyre is unroadworthy yes hahaha...
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Nice bar end mirrors and clip on angles.
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Signs of age, bike has had a slight drop on right side, nothing major, minor scratches on can and engine housing.
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What happens when you paint something and dont let it cure... go for a ride a day later and whallaaa...
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Tank it good nick externally, internally another matter for checking.
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Someone say orange peel...
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This area needs some love
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And here...clipons need a good refurb.
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This is where it gets scary... Missing engine bolt.
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A very loose one haha
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And another...
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Area looks ok...I hope.
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I do like the black fins, silver housing look
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Carbs area
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Whats the max tyre on a 3inch front and 3.5inch rear rims that can be put on...
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CTS Heng Chinese Tyre... any good ? got a decent tread on it still...
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The major depressing part.... rear fairing tabs under seat are snapped and looks like a new set is required as I cannot fibreglass to save myself.
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Gap between seat and fairing normal ? also the front of the seat moves about an inch left to right under tank, also normal ?
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All in all, I love the bike, love a good project, very happy with it considering its a legit LAMS bike for me and plenty powerfull considering I will more than likely keep her for many years to come enjoying the riding aspect of it. Sorry for the thousands of questions I will fire at you, but I really would love to bring this bike back from near death... got myself a nice Haynes Manual and armed and ready!!!
Sweet deal. Love the pics.
You will get some knowledge in here and get going on it.
Whats the first plan of action for you?
:wink: A good wash and degrease tomorrow, then take that front wheel off and get a replacement in prep for registering inspection I reckon Snake... very exciting times ahead. :bowdown:
great pics,...good write up too. :thumb:
your bike reminds me i need to clean mine.
sub'd for further updates!
Quote from: Golly on July 16, 2013, 05:26:58 AM
Hey guys, cheers for that, Im from Australia, sorry didnt mention it, have fixed my end bit! haha... hope to pick it up soon enough, its got about 33,000k on the clock, not much considering I suppose is it ?
Youre in perth right?, isnt there a max security prison there? ( or near it )
Um...one in every country no doubt lolol
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Quote from: Golly on July 20, 2013, 09:25:32 AM
Um...one in every country no doubt lolol
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I know. a silly question for me. i watched a doc about international prisons, and it documented one in/near perth. cannot remember the name of the facility though. im thinking it was ( not sure if spelled correctly. but casuarina? anyhoo enough of that Eh?, back to the bike. looks like im seeing a newer engine ( 97 onwards) with the silver case, but with the older head/cylinders.
Mmm might have to do sone research on that via the engine number....wow if thats the case..missed that
And yes we have Casuarina here..a nasty one that one lmao haha
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Nice looking bike! I just started working on a 1990 gs too. Your's looks a whole lot better than mine though haha. I'll definitely be watching your build and might even have a question for you every once in awhile. Anyways good luck on your bike! :thumb:
Shes definately red under the fairings haha might keep her blaxk though. Some progress shots...no clamps on carb to airbox boots!!! No rubber under tank and no tank bracket...unreal..need to go shopping now(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/22/u8ate2u9.jpg)
Battery area yuk...
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Hose routing
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Goodonya Golly, she'll be a beauty with some TLC.
It looks pretty similar to my '89... similar condition. (thanks to DHPO's) (whaddayareckon?) :icon_lol:
I've spent the last few weeks working on mine methodically from front to back just fettling it, replacing the inevitable graunched fasteners and cleaning everything within a inch of it's life etc! Only way to do it properly is to disassemble each component assembly in turn and take care stripping and cleaning it all to get things right. I'll be doing a complete engine out/frame paint resto sometime, but my plan is to get everything schmick, then run it, and then later (if I like it enough) I'll pull the whole thing down for the complete resto.
-Jools
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Day one complete...no turning back now lmao!!!!!
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I am really wanting a set of late model rear fairings and seat on my baby, what is involved to fit them ? Has there been any tutorials or posts by chaps or ladies who have set this up on an early model like mine ?
I am really loving Mauricio's bike at the back and would love to fit the newer style fairings on, mine is snapped in the fittings on the rear and will need to get new ones anyways....
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Quote from: Golly on July 20, 2013, 08:30:17 PM
Mmm might have to do sone research on that via the engine number....wow if thats the case..missed that
And yes we have Casuarina here..a nasty one that one lmao haha
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not sure about europe or australia or elsewhere, but in us and canada ( i believe) the 97 onwards were silver cases. so you might have a newer engine. which is always good m8. :)
Damn, that bike has had a hard life
A sin isn't it lol
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was actually liking the black light bucket :) my first of 5 gs' wasnt black but factory DARK navy blue nearly black stock 97 colour. 3 of my gs' were this colour. loved it. and yours too. want to get my hands on another gs at some point. even a frame and build it up piece by piece
Interesting..
6 inch light
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Inside 7inch housing
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Notice the small gap on left of outer rim. Would any 7 inch fit in here?
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tbh i dont think it would.
End of day two
Rear lights..fender removed and parts bagged and labelled..also harness labeling as I go(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/23/9aqugu9y.jpg)
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Am liking it thusfar :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
hmmm ... would need measuring and checking... but what about ...
http://bluewiremotorsport.com/products/tri-bar-lens-headlights-7inch-round
its got a certain cool factor!!
Quote from: Janx101 on July 23, 2013, 07:13:11 PM
hmmm ... would need measuring and checking... but what about ...
http://bluewiremotorsport.com/products/tri-bar-lens-headlights-7inch-round
its got a certain cool factor!!
Sarcasm?
I was just looking for clear lenses and came across them. I had no idea you could change the dot to other colors, thats interesting.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271144874835?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Or you could get all crazy!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320850234674?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
nah not sarcasm!!! ... serious! ... :thumb: ... was thinking 'how many gs500 around with the E headlight would have that?!! ' ... it'd be a little eye candy thing i thought! 8)
I do like eye candy....dont tempt me hahaha
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oh .. ok then... :icon_twisted:
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attracts
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see how they are so excited!? ... all clearly thinking ... "wow, that guy with that cool headlight on his bike!, I bet he is a smooth lover!! yaaaaaaaaay!"
Golly, don't chuck away any plastic bits because of broken fittings. They can be fixed, I can show you how.
(Doing a tute on it at the mo', I'll put it online SAP)
-Jools
Awesome stuff Jools, will help alot no doubt.
Ok, end of day 3 with some pics.
Pirelli Club front tyre...yummy!!! rotor is ok, just going to strip it down and put new bearings or regrease existing.... how does one regrease, how much is tooooo much hahah...
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Rear tailight, bit shabby, needs some love
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Headers are straight, just need a repaint
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Collection of parts so far, notice the paper bags labelled with all small parts inside ready for cleaning and reinstall as we go
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And how it sits currently after 3 days of about 1.5hrs each day.
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Now.... I am keeping brake units and hoses in tact, quite frankly they are fine, just need a good clean and new pads installed once
back on the bike... got a set of Vesrah front and rear. Nooooow how to take the triple handle bar and gauges off.... in what order and how ??? hahah
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My front end securing at the moment, I can see this an issue when I want to get the motor out or forks off hahahaha..
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oh and throttle which I I will replace with new grips..
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Got some bits today....bearings front and rear on order...rear 39 sprocket also. Also pick up a new battery and rear disc next week....look out rego place...bew bike inbound soon enough!!!(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/26/umuqy3yp.jpg)
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Some more work done today.
Front sprocket cover removal, clean up of the inside and see what I am up against, looks ok so far. Chain is a 520mx DID by the looks, gold/black job and the rear is a 39 already, so will see what the front is once removed. Chain looks ok I think hehe.... also the frame is ok after a WD40 clean up and I am wondering if a repaint is really required....dunno.... Also found a nasty revealed positive wire from its sheath and would explain some issues electrically its had of late. Found it has no horn, so I have a spare ready to go.
Looking forward to going shopping tomorrow, some clamps, fuel hose, filters and we will see how it goes, I think I am not going to paint the frame just yet, get it registered, then ride for a while then strip it down after that haha... too eager.
Also, is there a rattle can colour guide for the GS that anyone has compiled ?? If I can find a match for the frame, then touch ups can get me buy for the little rust spots.
Golly
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Some updates....
Getting her back together so she can be registered then later on a respray. Got a tank/seat bracket from a local wreckers and some rubber strip from Clark Rubber. Win win...but the airbox has to go damit as it wont fit with the way Ive applied hose clamps to the petcock haha...excuse for induction roar no doubt....any ideas from the Aussie lads where to get the k n n lunchbox from locally??
Fuel lines
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Neat wiring
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New grips
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And an 89 for sale at wreckers...so tempted
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Tail tidy up and new indicators..keeping it looking legal still
Warning!!!!! Apply glasses if required hahaha super blurry....sorry haha
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zip ties on the gas lines will work as well.
I say get it running stock then do the intake? Your call though you will make it work.
Yer might throw the box back on to pass rego then. Noooooooowwww....the mystery black white wire near the relay area....i swear it wasnt buddied up with another during pull down.....so very curious as Ive got power but no start..no click nothing. All lights are go....mmmm(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/31/eva9y8aj.jpg)
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Okie dokie... we have a couple of electrical issues, hopefully some help can be offered lmao!! hahaha..
New Headlight in, replacement 7inch whole unit, using existing H4 connector from harness.
ISSUE: Headlight does not come on with switch on right side, but the PASS flick button sets it off no issues there.
Indicators work a treat on the front, slow but ok, I dare say once motor is running they will be faster.
Idiot lights on guages all work no issues, bike is in NEUTRAL.
Wont kick over using the starter button, and engine kill switch is in the right place.
I have my front sprocket cover off currently, is this an issue ?
ahahhhh!!!!
This is just down the road, I will pay them a visit tomorrow and suss it out under the seat, making sure I have mine wired up correctly too hahaha...
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Not to be insulting or anything, but maybe your clutch safety is still engaged and you have to pull the clutch to start the bike.
Worrying is a pain my man, a major pain.
We are getting there...installed new globes with coloured silicon caps to bring out some more colour into the light..not a bad effect. Ordered some more parts. New air filter, new dampers for behind the guages as they were cactus and perished and the relevent wire fasteners for the cables also fitted a horn I had from the old bike that still works...now to find the wires for it...mmm
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New leds in instruments engine and nuetral. Just need the others and we are set
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Fingers over lamps to give a clearer indication
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Got most of the harness inside the light housing. Very happy with the outcome.
Now my starting issue....screwdriver across starting relay kicks her in the guts...so the relay is ok???? No action via the starter button. The power to the button is all good via a check using a light probe. Also same for kill switch..
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... So there's a break or melted wire/plug down on the other end of the circuit..closer to the starter? ... Trace that wire colour down the harness and find the 'section' that is dead ! :thumb:
Clutch safety switch is in series with the starter button.
are you pulling in the clutch? or have you bypassed the safety switch? Broken safety switch? Not connected?
Remember a bike must be in neutral OR the side stand up for it to run. That's a safety circuit so you don't ride with the side stand down.
Ok here is where its weird...there is no plugs on the clutch safety switch on the lever..never had any before the pulldown and it started prior....now what are the wires that run to that switch ? I can look later via the manual but if u guys have a heads up it will be a bonus haha... Ive reconnected everything in the light housing according to hits colour. Got the horn working indicators..park lights tail and stop lights all work. All power to those aspects are working aok... Going to do chain and sprockets then rassemble today then attack this electrical bug...grrr
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The previous owner had bodged the fuse..had copper wire with two wedges in there obviously blowing fueses he was...it started then..but since I put in a 20amp it doesnt fire nor does it blow it at any stage....sooooo weird
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...hmmm... someone correct me if im wrong... but was looking at clutch safety switch last evening... a thin black wire .. and a thin black with yellow 'tabs' across it ??... i think?... should be hiding in the sleeve which as the left cluster wires in it?
Mmm will have a look..cheers bud
Some more done today.
Painted headers
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Front wheel assembled
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New Rear and front sprockets. Old front one was a 17 and in good nick once cleaned. Chain cleaned and rear wheel regreased shaft and reinstall. Going to give her to the shop for bearings as I dont have the tool and dont want to spoil the spacers.(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/07/8a8ygu3u.jpg)
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Quote from: Golly on August 07, 2013, 12:27:53 AM
Painted headers
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What did you use to paint the headers?
Wups my bad.... Thought to look again.... BOTH wires are thin black and have a yellow stripe ... Without pulling the cluster apart it looks like they enter into the edge of the cluster 'pod' at the very end of sheath and then exit back out to the safety switch... Shows how good 'memory' is.. :icon_rolleyes:
... Buuuuut ... I have a k6 F ... If you have a 90 'EN' (US) model .... Then according to the Haynes wiring diag ... If you have a standard 90 harness..
Hmmmm... Picture makes a thousand words ....but how many words to convey a picture? ..
...on right side ... Starter switch has orange with white stripe coming in from kill switch ... Then out to yellow with green stripe , which leads across harness to a inline 'resistor?' .. Still yellow with green stripe into another 'resistor?' Then into the starter relay ... Other side of starter relay is on solid black wire to starter motor plus a black with white stripe which is the common 'bike wide' negative to battery...
... Also ... The position of the clutch safety is different in the diagram ... My k6 diagram shows the switch as in the harness wire bundle along with the left cluster switches ....I think ... But your 90 diag shows it as 'located' not in that actual 'bundle' but more like down 'near' the starter relay? ...
But this could be just for the diagram.... Otherwise the clutch safety switch is located down near the other end of the clutch cable near/in the entry to the gear case? ... I've never looked at a live 90 era bike so I don't know the real physical location.... It would make sense to still locate it on the lever ... But the diagram makes it ambiguous ... So definately confirm with one of the 90 era owners here just where the safety switch is located...
I don't mean to make it confusing for location... Just most wiring diagrams I have looked at in my amateur viewpoint do usually show 'roughly' the location in the 'laid out flat' harnesses... :dunno_black:
What did you use to paint the headers?
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VHT Extreme Heat matt Black, then VHT Extreme Heat clear coat over the top to bring out the colour, the matt is very matt and quite dull.
Front pads installed
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nice bike
couple questions/observations
that frame is WAY to clean to have 33clicks on it and you said you didn't paint it.
the swingarm looks stock paint.... black was not a 90 option
the wheels look stock paint... black not option in 90
engine looks like it had bottom end replaced.... already noticed on page 1
you got the kewl stock clip-ons NON-USA
when you take the carbs apart do they have stock adjustable needles?
your workmanship looks good. keep it up
Haha this bike is 90 via the vin on our national register..might go into suzuki for conformatiion on it. It was red..little bit shows under the tail piece. Also wheels were white as you can see via the chips on the hub on the front wheel. This bike has been built from a collection of bits as Im still figuring out what actual year it is. GOOD NEWS!!!!! BRAIN FART MOMENT i had the 4 pin black relay into the wrong white connector. Sucks having two 4 pin adapters in the same area lmao!!!!! Good thing is she kicks over via all switches...now to give it some fuel...some reason it back fired a little then just kicks over no fire yet lolol
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New look rear
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New look front
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New gauge dampers thks to mick hone suzuki in oz. Great service
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Looks great :thumb:
Good job Chap!
Bit of a dampener today, got it all together, battery charged up, and what happens...... :2guns: fuel comes out of the airbox down the overflow tube, so I have a float issue or a blockage somewhere. This gives me an excuse to do a couple of things.
1. Tank is off, rust inside, so a good clean, a petcock rebuild and prep for spray.
2. Give both carbs an overhaul and new bits!!!
3. Whilest carbs are off, take out motor and add new Suzuki plates and respray the motor.
4. What the hell, whilst the motor is out, may as well do the frame as well.... sooooo a minor blockage has caused
me to bite the bullet and give this 23 year old bike the love it deserves.
hahahaha... :cookoo:
So this is my first carb strip down, so far not so good hahah.. noticed a couple of things and hope they are fixable, I have alot of questions, dont hate me lmao!!
Shitty carby
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Inside...
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This is my first issue, these suckers are solid stuck and PO has hacked them up obviously. How to get out and what replaces them haha...
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Second issue, this is not normal no doubt... also, any tips on how to get that snapped piece inside out, I dare say I can order a replacement.
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Carby Model for ordering spares ???
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I have read somewhere that these are aftermarket since there is five settings ?? Is this true ? its on the fourth clip
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120's.... normal ?
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Need new ones, PO farked this one and I just got it out..
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After a clean, starting to look good
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The clean side of the bench, nice white nappy hahahah
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Truly impressed my friend :bowdown:an E beer from this side of the big pond
thanks mate, still gotta tackle the carbs, waiting on parts, and got some bonding gear to fix that vacumm choke tube thats snapped, hopefully it works, cause I dont fancy buying a new set of carbs. :thumb:
Some more work on the girl today, new custom rear side reflectors, used mega heat shrink to pad the alloy bar to stop vibration against the tie down bars. Also got some bar end bling, using the new mirrors for rego pass. Also a clean up of the engine and underside. Second hand carbs being picked up on Friday for $220 from a running wreck, so pretty stoked about that. Those air/fuel screws are solid stuck, unable to remove even with easy out.
Preeeetty and the colour scheme has been decided. Black, Blue and Silver.
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Side fairings off
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And on.. like the angle
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I think this is coolish..
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A clean up woot!!
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Go bro! :thumb:
yeah! picked up a set of carbs from a wreckers in Perth. All seems ok, dirty of course, but after a clean up, all screws working and adjustable. Choke slide is good so now for a refurb and install and see how we go.... wish me luck!!!!
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Quote from: Golly on August 17, 2013, 03:00:10 AM
thanks mate, still gotta tackle the carbs, waiting on parts, and got some bonding gear to fix that vacumm choke tube thats snapped, hopefully it works, cause I dont fancy buying a new set of carbs. :thumb:
yell at addy if you gotta go with new carbs. id say hed treat you right even with shipping costs
Its alive!!!!!
A video of her after being warmed up I think haha.... idle mucks around a bit at start, just drops suddenly then at the end it hangs after a throttle or two... enjoy... time for rego once this idle thingys fixed!
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Some more shots of her all polished up later today hehe...
Got her out in the sun yesterday...
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A Favourite angle of mine..
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Le bum...
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This Biiiiiatch looks tuff!
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Shiny now!!! amazing what a little elbow grease does to it...
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Not bad for a 23 year ole lady.... got a nasty side look to her though hahah....
Ok so far on the Black Edition what has been put into her...
New Vesrah Front and Rear Pads
New Rear 39 Front 15 JT Sprockets
New Pirelli Sports Demon Front tyre
New 7 inch head light
New Air Filter
New Fuel/Vac Lines both rubber and kart yellow
New NGK plugs
New Exhaust gaskets
New rear indicators (look like of a Yammie)
New Mottobat Battery
New Carbie overhaul kits incl, 120main, 40pilot, Float bowl seals, o-rings multiple sizes.
New Electrical connections for all indicators/headlights and heat sealed.
Donor Second hand set of Mikuni's, still old set but has jammed air/fuel screws and broken choke pipe at connection (FOR SALE, make an offer)
Multiple cans of degreaser, carbie cleaner, electrical cleaner.
Hours of mistakes, remistakes and final outcomes YEAH!!!
Hours of work, but loved every minute of it and look forward to the day I ride it to work in the spring ahead.
Will leave it as is for some months, then next winter she gets yet another rebirth....
Full Plastics and Tank respray.
PUIG double bubble headlight fairing...
Bellypan...
R6 Rear suspension upgrade
Sonic front suspension upgrade
New sports exhaust...brand to be decided
and a carbie upjet and filter changeup to boot.
It does not stop!!! hahaha...
Gave her a Fuchs 10 x 40w Semi Synth Oil changeup today, new filter and seal also some reflective metallic blue rim tape.
Also removed my throttle tube, grinded the ribs flat, electrical tape around clipon as the nub on the switches does not exist.
Greased up the throttle tube part of the clip on, grips back on and wahla!!! more response and sharper idle down on the girl.
Took her for a spin around our loop to test all is good, now rego next week...... cannot fugging wait!!!!!
The Angry Bird that self destructs like a bomb..... hope its not an omen lmao!!!
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Reflective is good, happy wife happy life lmao....
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Lookin sharp there mate!! .. Good job :thumb:
Great job :thumb:
Like the blue rim accent. How is it done?
Well.....thought everything was fine...noticed the black was a little sluggish up through the low rev band....then...bang!!! Haha exhaust fire blast..not flame but boom ....
So...pulled the plugs and since I put the new ones in one of them is clean as the day it was put in.... And one side of the block is warm to touch compared to the working side where spark is..same with the headers...so
So took the right coil back to the mob I got it off. Tested aok....so looks like its going onto that purple trailer and down to the shop for a diagnosis as I have reached my skill limit and I am that close I can smell it....dont want to stuff er up. My electrical limit is rewiring indicators and lights....dont have the patients or tools to test and diagnose the harness break or loom issue.
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did you by chance swap coils side to side?, and see if the working side changes?, or perhaps its trigger is faulty? at the engine? these can be goofy lil buggers Eh?
Firstly, coils were fine, the CDI shat itself, only firing on one side, replaced that, wholy poooo it is quick now on two cylinders lmao!!!!!
Found the reason for the rattle in the magneto area and no charge..... Scary yet not tooo much of an issue. I have the new stator....notice the bolts stuck to the magnets hahaha....small chip on the stator moulded hold lip on the inside but there us enough to hold in place and new bolts have been threadlocked in and the whole area cleaned. New gasket installed now the issue haha....the plug is different to what I have on the bike..out comes the manual I think.
The inside debarkle
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New stator plug..all yellow wires
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The old stator wires....mmmm, now which wires go to what hahaha, I am needing help on this one please chaps and ladies.
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Damage to old stator...still ok ???
The magnets were obviously rubbing against it..no loose wires though
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Back end ok
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No polarity at all for stator wires. Connect them any way you wish. Old harnesses had a jumper cable in the harness that went from 3 barrel connectors to a 3 pin connector at the regulator. You should be able to ignore the barrel connctors and go right to the regulator and plug the new stator in - bypassing the jumper cable in the harness.
Cheers Adidas....just to clarify the three male female connectors are coming from the battery end. The 3 pin plug is coming from the new stator. So theoretically I can cut that three pin and put connectors on and plug anyone of those yellow wires into anyone of the wirea shown in the photo ? And she would be ok to go ?
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Ahhhh just got your post. Will look for the jumper connection and bypass like you said.
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Put her back together...new oil..wired up the stator and she fires up...horn is loud and not faded so she is getting charge....now to ride the bloody thing hahahaha...
Thanku Adidasguy you are a valuable resource to gstwin and the members... I OWE U A BEER!
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Quote from: Golly on October 16, 2013, 04:05:46 AM
Put her back together...new oil..wired up the stator and she fires up...horn is loud and not faded so she is getting charge....now to ride the bloody thing hahahaha...
Thanku Adidasguy you are a valuable resource to gstwin and the members... I OWE U A BEER!
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hehe he knows just about all things gs :thumb:
So shes all legal and registered now after a roadworthy inspection...mths of hard work and swearing and learning. GSTwins is a valuable resource to GS owners and very proud to be part of this community and biiiiig thanks to all for the help and suggestions...noticed she was running rich as of late. Raised the jet to the top circlip and its smooth as now and not a mongrel to start due to flooding lolol
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Awesome :)
Very nice looking bike. Good job.
Thanks guys..next winter its full respray look good time..woot!!
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I dont like it.......................its too clean for that age :icon_razz:
Getting into character for tmw ride eh cods?! :D
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Getting into character for tmw ride eh cods?! :D
Huh? The Harley's cleaner than a Nuns C**t
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Quote from: Janx101 on October 26, 2013, 03:41:43 AM
Getting into character for tmw ride eh cods?! :D
Huh? The Harley's cleaner than a Nuns C**t
they always are. always a disorder of keeping it clean. and rain is amother lol
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Quote from: codajastal on October 26, 2013, 06:04:01 AM
Quote from: Janx101 on October 26, 2013, 03:41:43 AM
Getting into character for tmw ride eh cods?! :D
Huh? The Harley's cleaner than a Nuns C**t
they always are. always a disorder of keeping it clean. and rain is amother lol
Oh no we dont go near the rain :nono:
least the chrome is minimal. that sh*t is not fun to repolish after rain.
Quote from: codajastal on October 26, 2013, 06:04:01 AM
Quote from: Janx101 on October 26, 2013, 03:41:43 AM
Getting into character for tmw ride eh cods?! :D
Huh? The Harley's cleaner than a Nuns C**t
I meant ... I don't like it ... Etc ... Being grumpy old hard-man ... ;) ... Lol... :thumb:
... Though thinking about it now.... I fail to see how the Harley changes that? :flipoff:
Hahah too funny u lot.... Lol
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Picked up a Motodry Tank bag/carrier yestersday, not bad, $115 large magnets underneath and pretty sturdy.
Looking at it for a small tool, kit, first aid, torch and chain/locks carrier until I can get a box on the back.
Good GPS and phone clear pouch on the top too.
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Your chain is dead too
What is that reference too......tad left field haha..lost me on that one
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Now....right fork us allowing oil onto the inner tube as it releases up...grrr...how much would a local mech charge approx to do. Or should one tackle it himself...may need some tools to do the job....dunno which way to go.
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I'm mid way through the process on mine and it seems easy, but there are parts that involve the assistance of a second person, that's why I'm stuck haha. I recommend having the workshop manual.
Got one of them...looks like yeah a few odd tools required....may have to meet up and sort our delemas out hahah
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Could do yeah. One thing you need is a massive allen key, I bought a whole set stupidly bit allen keys just to get that one haha
Well I figured I would give the fork seals a go. So far so good. Just waiting on the parts from Suzuki to arrive tomorrow. New seals 20$ for the pair. Genuine cant argue. Now upon dismantling my forks The two large metal spacers on top of the springs are 280mm and 274mm ??? Should they be the same ?
Next query....left shock has no spring seat washer..do I need the real deal or would a general washer of the same size do ?
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Double post
The washer on the spring is important. If you don't have one, any washer 29.5 to 30mm will work. I often use extra valve shims in the forks.
While you're in there, why not upgrade the springs? Buy those Sonics for sale on the board.
It would be good to replace the bushings. If they are worn (especially the top one) the seals will go bad sooner than they should.
Thks Adidasguy....having aa mongrel time getting the inner tube parts to seat in properly...bottom bolt wont reach the preload damper n spacer n spring to do up...as sif the damper hasnt seated properly
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Hot night...group ride with PSB....bike was fine for about 25mins thru the burbs....then..splutter...fart and nothing..as if it was out of fuel......full tank...let cool for 20mins....same again 1km down the road....then it just wouldnt fire up....until!!! We put the petcock into reserve..bam first up and didnt cut out...so parked it up at a 24hr servo..locked up and got a pilion ride on a busa home. So ive gotta pick her up with a trailer tomorrow...and figure out whats wrong....grrrr
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clogged regular fuel line?
Dont know rado..gonna strip it down and figure out the bug in a few days...very pissed off I was...so much effort done for this to happen on its virgin night out lolol
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If runs on reserve, then not a full tank. By the shape of out tank, if the level is 1/2 then you are on reserve. Most of the gas is up in the front when it is full. Looking down the filler hole, you're looking at the small deep end.
I have had a few calls from friends wondering why their bike won't run when it "looks like half a tank". No, you're out of gas. Put on reserve then go fill up. Fill up by hand so the gas comes to the lower part of the fill tube. You can't stick the nozzle in and let it auto-shut-off. Do that and you get 2 gallons in a 4 or 5 gallon tank.
You did say when you switched to reserve she ran fine. Problem solved! Fill her up. You're out of gas.
Quote from: adidasguy on February 21, 2014, 12:18:52 PM
If runs on reserve, then not a full tank. By the shape of out tank, if the level is 1/2 then you are on reserve. Most of the gas is up in the front when it is full. Looking down the filler hole, you're looking at the small deep end.
I have had a few calls from friends wondering why their bike won't run when it "looks like half a tank". No, you're out of gas. Put on reserve then go fill up. Fill up by hand so the gas comes to the lower part of the fill tube. You can't stick the nozzle in and let it auto-shut-off. Do that and you get 2 gallons in a 4 or 5 gallon tank.
You did say when you switched to reserve she ran fine. Problem solved! Fill her up. You're out of gas.
Yeah either not filled up enough or clogged line. He did say the tank was full, but as you say it depends on how he "measured" full.
Filled it just before the ride...just under the lip of the tank...brim full.....havent checked it since...will take a look and see if it chewed the fuel to needing reserve..was only about 40kms...doubt it though....lol..bad economy if thats the case haha...
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Weeellll....
Petcock had a fine whole in the diaphram so after a new petcock..carb jet clean...new 5/16 hoses n clamps...new air/fuel screws from the states she fires up again. Woot!!!!! Now a little white smoke but throttle blips and choke works a beut.....so will drop the oil tomorrow for some new honey. Send her down the shop for a tune n carb sync and we should be set for some riding finally !!!
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Now very odd....my bike has what looks like a stock exhaust but its a larger main pipe....got my circlip on top notch of five....but my sweet spot with those US air fuel screws is 2.75 turns out...on 3 it bogs down at 6000rpm. At 2.75 turns it screams all the way through till the teens...woot Now for a carb sync and she is set
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Okay bike was playin up recently...took it to the local shop and got the carbies syncd.....they had similar issues and found out it was tank vacume block....apparently the tank was not venting hence fuel only dribbled down....they opened the tank cap and wooosh!!! No issue is fixed..runs well so far....what happened....why did it do that ? Any ideas ?
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The vent got crap in it!
Does it effect the bike that much when its blocked...bike was faaaarked and kept dying.
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Umm yep .. The tank needs to breath ...
Say you have a head cold and your nose is all clogged .... But you decide to keep your mouth closed and breath through your nose anyway ..... Like that!
Errr... More like the old straw trick. Put a straw in a glass of water and put your thumb on the top of the straw to seal it off. Pick the straw up out of the glass of water and the water in the straw can't escape until you break the vacuum caused by your thumb on the top.
These carbs are gravity fed, so it doesn't take a whole lot of restriction to slow or stop the flow of gas.
Dan
Seems my hoses under tank are ass about...works on reserve but coughs n farts on main....may have assed about the filter during tank clean
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New mirrors on the old girl, much better feel to them rather than antenai sticking out ! hahah...
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Okay....wits end time....
Carbies have been tuned...the dude said my spark was week....battery is full....Im getting to the point of some one take it off me before I burn it stage hahaha.....kicks over but wont fire..... Might be up cheap for sale soon if it doesnt go for me....Im at a loss and patients is beyond thin lol
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Fuel/air/spark. . The 3 essentials. ..
spark weak but battery full. .. bad coil/s or bad lead connections? Or signal generator thingy?
Carbies tuned. . But are you getting actual fuel flow? Tank petcock open? Or some similar? Primed bowls?
Airbox connection/s correct and tight? Compression ok?
Its gotta be a simple 1 item out of whack by now ... yeah?
"The carby dude" .. you trust his work implicitly? .. not saying his error but it happens!
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Ive decided to sell her mate.. $1500 on gumtree. No more patients....have permission to buy new next year. Sad but cant stand to not ride it....someone with more nouse can
.. :-(
Bike sold today... Gonna miss it in a weird way...loved it but it fustrated me just as much
sad news bro! .. still you gotta have peace of mind eh! ... if they find the issue and fix it , then tell you 'it was only blah blah' ... you gonna (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fighting/bash-head.gif)
No shaZam! bro lolol....bloody thing started perfect and ran lovely for his test ride..maybe its just me...lol...he is an ex bonnieville man...loves the older bikes. He has plans to enter it in the vintage club runs next year...its going to a good home for sure. Im happy :-)