Ok so i put saddle bags on that have built in lights for blinkers. Hooked them (blinkers on saddle bags) up to stock wires now they don't work right. Left one will blink if turn signal is left on for 40-60 seconds sometimes, right one will not blink regardless. Saddlebag bulbs are regular incandescent bulbs. I have leds in dash lights, thought that it might be them so i put in reg bulbs back in still didn't make a difference. I can hear the module click when I turn the turn signal switch on. No idea whats the problem.
I have two bolts broke off that hold the speedo and tac buckets together, looked at bike bandit and cheapcycle parts, cant find them in the schematic can only find the bolts that hold it on. anyone know where to buy them?
Can't help with the electric prob sorry ....
Pics of the saddlebags with lights request though!! ... Sounds interesting! :thumb:
Can you send a pix of what you need? Or where the part goes so I know?
Built in blinkers will not work. Our blinker does the work. Two blinkers will fight each other. Anything that alters the load on our blinkers will make them not work or work wrong.
You will need to wire the new blinkers as straight bulbs with the blinker in them removed. That would be easiest. Otherwise it might take a complete rewiring of the turn signal circuit which I could not advise on unless I had those same rear turn signals with built in blinkers to test with.
I should be able to put pictures on tomorrow, i broke the oil cap bolt so now i have to wait to ride again, the bike is at my girlfriends parents house. but i will most likely be over there tomorrow.
Addias- so your saying that there is a circuit in the stock blinkers? there is also non stock blinkers that were on the front- regular bulbs that worked before i put the saddlebags on. they were hooked up with the stock wires and worked fine until now. once again ill get pictures of the bolts i need and the saddle bag set up tomorrow.
I believe you misunderstood me.
Stock blinkers are just a bulb. There is one blinker module on the bike which is on the right side under the seat next to the regulator.
You said that your new rear blinkers had a blinker circuit in them (did I misread what you said to me in a message?). There lies the problem. You can't have 2 blinker units. The new rear turn signals need to be just a bulb - no blinker circuit in them at all.
Now if the new ones are just a bulb, then they should work. To test things, temporarily disconnect the new ones and connect back up the stock ones you took off. If there is still a problem, perhaps your blinker module accidentally got fried while you were connecting the new ones. If they work with the old ones, then there is something going on with the new ones. Report back when you get a chance.
after some further thinking on this (and seeing i have been awake more than half an hour) .... im wondering does Addy mean if there is a extra flasher can in the saddlebags? ... cos you cant have two flasher cans fighting each other...
we know that LED bulbs with their lower current draw messes things up though ... requiring a 2 diode modification ... so i guess the converse holds true also .. and extra bulbs load the circuit wrong also... do you have just the indicators in the saddlebags hooked into the rear?... or AS WELL AS the stock rear?
its obviously a different ruling from bikes to cars? .. cos you hook a trailer up to car with extra bulbs and it works! ... maybe a more robust flasher can?! ..
speaking of which .. when flasher cans go 'bung' .. or are on the verge of doing so... extra load just messes them up quicker... so im thinking a new and possibly stronger? flasher can in the circuit could possibly help ...
... final thought... dont always rely on 'other peoples' wire colour codes .. by this i mean the manufacturer of the saddlebags with lights .. 'green' and 'black' .. or whichever .. do get treated differently depending on where in the world you buy from ... eg of this... 12v cig lighter "accessory' plug... i have added one to my bike .. so have several or many people here... i put the colours the 'right way' .. which turned out to be the wrong way .. blew the power cable plug for my gps (but not the gps .. phew!) .. so i reversed the wired and all good... have also seen at least 1 other example/mention of same thing on this board, with possibly others not mentioned....
.. reversing wires in a blinker circuit may not necessarily blow any fuses... (years of fiddling with trucks and trailers tells me this) .. but it can royally mess with the flasher cans and give all sorts of weird effects/results .. :icon_rolleyes: :thumb:
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the bolts i need is the bolt that 7,8,9 go onto.
Quote from: adidasguy on July 30, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
I believe you misunderstood me.
Stock blinkers are just a bulb. There is one blinker module on the bike which is on the right side under the seat next to the regulator.
You said that your new rear blinkers had a blinker circuit in them (did I misread what you said to me in a message?). There lies the problem. You can't have 2 blinker units. The new rear turn signals need to be just a bulb - no blinker circuit in them at all.
Now if the new ones are just a bulb, then they should work. To test things, temporarily disconnect the new ones and connect back up the stock ones you took off. If there is still a problem, perhaps your blinker module accidentally got fried while you were connecting the new ones. If they work with the old ones, then there is something going on with the new ones. Report back when you get a chance.
Ok ya what i ment by "built in blinkers" is that the the lights are built into the saddlebags, there is no curcuit just wires and a bulb. i tried wiring up one light at a time first by matching the wire colors up- didnt work, then by switching them- still didnt work, im going to try the old ones on to see about the module being fried tomorrow also.
The bolts on the back of the tach and speedo are molded into the plastic gauge housing. They are not a spare part. You would have to somehow repair yours or get new gauges.
Quote from: adidasguy on July 30, 2013, 10:16:40 PM
The bolts on the back of the tach and speedo are molded into the plastic gauge housing. They are not a spare part. You would have to somehow repair yours or get new gauges.
shaZam! ok i will have to figure something out. first thing is to get the new oil filter cap studs in so i can ride again. the girlfriends mom was wondering what happened because i was swearing....alot after it broke.
lol ... sorry to hear it broke!! reallly!!.. but Lol ...
the old swearing in front of the g/f's mum eh! ... its all in the phrasing!! ... instead of Goddammit to F%#K!! .. use .. OH Lord!!, this machine is damned !! and deserves to be cast into the pit of sinners and fornicators!! ... AMEN & Hallelujah!! ;) ;) ;)
they still know what you mean to say but they appreciate the effort in changing it! ;) :D :thumb:
there was no stopping the swearing. :D
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thats different!! ... kinda retro cool..... not sure if i like them yet eh ;) (lol like that matters! ;) ) :thumb:
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So i figured out that the problem was with the bulbs that are in the saddlebags,they are only 3-5 watts vs 21watt bulb that is in the stock blinkers, i checked the after market ones on the front that i got from addidas and sure enough they were over 20 watt bulbs also. put that bulb in the saddle bags and it works like its supposed to. Here are a few pictures of the bags and the brackets that i made for them, used some flat stock and round steel welded them to the side grab bars, and a flat piece to be bolted to the passenger pegs. finished it off with some fire engine red paint. going to have a newer frame powered coated red to match in the winter. Not my best work but for only taking me a day to build came out pretty good. the bags themselves work ok didn't pay a whole bunch for them so im happy overall.
Quote from: Janx101 on August 01, 2013, 09:15:49 PM
thats different!! ... kinda retro cool..... not sure if i like them yet eh ;) (lol like that matters! ;) ) :thumb:
Ya i dont know either but its so nice having them when i go riding and riding to work. i might smooth over the lights and make up something else for blinkers