Well, I've never really kept track of any of my bikes progression, so i figured I'd give it a go with the gs.
Picked up this 89 off a friend who had scavenged the motor, who then gave me the remaining bits for free :woohoo:
(http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m439/black9label13/GS500/2013-08-04103450_zps721d8083.jpg) (http://s334.photobucket.com/user/black9label13/media/GS500/2013-08-04103450_zps721d8083.jpg.html)
I was pretty happy because it hadn't been hacked to hell, the original turn signals were still there, the wiring harness was all intact.
I sourced a motor for 100$ (score! :thumb: ) and some carbs for the same price.
Roughly threw it all together, also installed a spare shock i had laying around from a 1994 gsxr-750W. The stock GS shock was looking pretty rough, and i figured I've been riding around on the gsx-r for the past 2 years, so the harsher ride wouldn't bother me too much, it still seems to sag appropriately so we shall see.
(http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m439/black9label13/GS500/2013-08-18175701_zps5eafd576.jpg) (http://s334.photobucket.com/user/black9label13/media/GS500/2013-08-18175701_zps5eafd576.jpg.html)
I re-ran all the wires, tucked everything away neatly. Then i decided to dig into the carbs. For the most part they were all there, but need a rebuild for good measure. The tank is also rusted HORRIBLY. Found one of those from a very helpful fellow on craigslist. The bike now sits like this, waiting for parts to come in.
(http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m439/black9label13/GS500/2013-08-20211544_zps839fd467.jpg) (http://s334.photobucket.com/user/black9label13/media/GS500/2013-08-20211544_zps839fd467.jpg.html)
There is also a chin fairing in the works from another member on the forum, will update as things come together.
Ayeeee
Pleaaaaaaaase do not paint it, i will give you a set of fairings and tank straight up fort those that you can paint.
Quote from: jacob92icu on August 20, 2013, 08:16:20 PM
Pleaaaaaaaase do not paint it, i will give you a set of fairings and tank straight up fort those that you can paint.
any painting that will be done, will be done in the stock colors/scheme. the tank i am receiving was painted "custom"(aka. hack) and i am going to attempt to replicate the red white and grey/silver scheme.
Quote from: jboogie13 on August 21, 2013, 05:00:01 AM
Quote from: jacob92icu on August 20, 2013, 08:16:20 PM
Pleaaaaaaaase do not paint it, i will give you a set of fairings and tank straight up fort those that you can paint.
any painting that will be done, will be done in the stock colors/scheme. the tank i am receiving was painted "custom"(aka. hack) and i am going to attempt to replicate the red white and grey/silver scheme.
i also really like those paint colors haven't seem them before.
I believe my 90 model had the same scheme, I do like them also myself.... wish I could confirm the original of mine as would love to bring it back to its original colours....
Quote from: Golly on August 22, 2013, 06:11:13 AM
I believe my 90 model had the same scheme, I do like them also myself.... wish I could confirm the original of mine as would love to bring it back to its original colours....
i can't guarantee that the colors will be 100% matched (especially the red) seeign as I'm not into waiting for the OE paint code match to come in, but i have had very good luck in the past with matching rattle can colors. MAYBE i would re do it all from the ground up over the winter, but right now i just want something to finish out the riding season. I feel out of place without a bike :oops:
Im feeling the same way JB, I want to repaint mine before I get onto it, but also want to ride it and get my licence sorted out. So I think 12 mths riding it enjoying my little work done to it, then give it full appreciation with a rebuild after that. Bikes are bloody contagious, love working on mine, my 4WD is getting no love at the moment hahah
I wasnt planning on digging into this one right away, but i had to sell my GSX-R to pay for some car repairs thus leaving me bike-less. Not a good thing.
nothing better to motivate fixin' than being bikeless! GReat thread! Sub'd :thumb:
So, PLOT TWIST
The person i bought the tank off of, seemingly was not aware of the differences between the early and late E model tanks. The tank is really clean inside and only has one small dent on the right side. Unless someone wants to trade me an early E model tank straight up, I will be painting this tank, adding the tabs for the fairing clips, and adapting the seat to work with the tank. :cookoo:
The upside is the added fuel capacity :woohoo:
(http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m439/black9label13/GS500/2013-08-22182349_zps92b1092f.jpg) (http://s334.photobucket.com/user/black9label13/media/GS500/2013-08-22182349_zps92b1092f.jpg.html)
Love the way those early GS500s look, have you put any thought into how you would adapt your seat to fit the tank?
Quote from: Zookmang on August 23, 2013, 12:24:01 AM
Love the way those early GS500s look, have you put any thought into how you would adapt your seat to fit the tank?
It doesn't need much, I would probably just reform the tongue with a heat gun so that it hugged the tank a little better and didn't look so scrunched up.
Quote from: jboogie13 on August 22, 2013, 08:11:23 PM
adding the tabs for the fairing clips,
Let me know if you need the tabs, I'll be removing mine.
Quote from: fleshpiston on August 23, 2013, 07:29:47 AM
Let me know if you need the tabs, I'll be removing mine.
appreciate it. The ones on the rusty tank coming off the bike seem to be alright, but I will definitely keep you in mind
Quote from: jboogie13 on August 23, 2013, 08:06:42 AM
Quote from: fleshpiston on August 23, 2013, 07:29:47 AM
Let me know if you need the tabs, I'll be removing mine.
appreciate it. The ones on the rusty tank coming off the bike seem to be alright, but I will definitely keep you in mind
Doh! I completely spaced the fact you already have some on the old tank. Cool build, carry on. :thumb:
Spent all day saturday painting the tank/front fender, and cleaning up the rest of the bikes. I am pretty happy with how it turned out
(http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m439/black9label13/2013-08-27210238_zps2e0946e1.jpg) (http://s334.photobucket.com/user/black9label13/media/2013-08-27210238_zps2e0946e1.jpg.html)
Got everything together and got it started tonight, to find some very odd symptoms. I will be making a different thread to trouble shoot the issue.
IT LIVES!!!!
fork seals, and fuel cap are on their way, then it just needs a chain, new tires, and some small touches.
(http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m439/black9label13/2013-08-28202101_zps632755ed.jpg) (http://s334.photobucket.com/user/black9label13/media/2013-08-28202101_zps632755ed.jpg.html)
Congrats! :thumb:
You gunna pot done Suzuki decals on the tank?
Quote from: jacob92icu on August 29, 2013, 01:18:26 PM
Congrats! :thumb:
You gunna pot done Suzuki decals on the tank?
yeah, i will get around to it eventually, it will really balance out the tank colors i think. O0
I don't know if your looking for these types of decals (minus the gsxr) but i have bought from this guy a couple times, good customer Service and quality decals.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=271135387439
Quote from: jacob92icu on August 29, 2013, 01:25:48 PM
I don't know if your looking for these types of decals (minus the gsxr) but i have bought from this guy a couple times, good customer Service and quality decals.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=271135387439
exactly what i was going to order. I have a silver set from him for another bike i had. Good stuff.
small update:
I played around with the mixture screws this weekend to richen it up, ended up with around 4.5 turns out and the idle still hangs a bit. It runs a lot smoother/cooler (verified with temp gun) and i am happy with it for now. Once i get the fork seals done, the front brakes up to snuff, and the bike is on the road i will be getting a factory pro kit to play around with it a bit more. I know there is a matrix, but FP knows what they are doing and i like the adjust ability of the kit..what's more is FP doesn't tell you to drill the slides, making everything completely reversible.
Parts that should be arriving this week: fork seals, front brake caliper and line, and chain/sprocket kit.
I pulled the brake master apart and holy crap. So much water had been absorbed by the former brake fluid that the M/C was clogged solid with this white gel. I managed to clean it all out and rebuilt the M/C, but i couldn't do the same to the line and caliper. I found a working replacement on ebay, so i just bought it rather than dealing with the mess of rebuilding a caliper.
Long-winded post, but i forgot to take any pictures haha :cookoo:
4.5 turns out, wow... my manual says the UK version is 2 1/4 I might bring mine out a bit more as the idle is floating for sure.
Quote from: Golly on September 03, 2013, 10:55:41 PM
4.5 turns out, wow... my manual says the UK version is 2 1/4 I might bring mine out a bit more as the idle is floating for sure.
Not sure about this, but i do believe the European models had moderately larger jets, which would mean you wouldn't need to adjust them as much.
From what I have gathered, the US models were jetted horribly lean, probably for emissions purposes.
Stock US jets were 37.5 pilots and 122.5 mains. UK was 40 pilots and 125 mains. I switched the jets on mine to the UK sizes and one washer under the needles and I have no complaints with my otherwise stock setup. I'm running probably ~3-3.5 turns out as well.
Quote from: bombsquad83 on September 04, 2013, 07:15:28 AM
Stock US jets were 37.5 pilots and 122.5 mains. UK was 40 pilots and 125 mains. I switched the jets on mine to the UK sizes and one washer under the needles and I have no complaints with my otherwise stock setup. I'm running probably ~3-3.5 turns out as well.
Oz are 40 pilot 120 mains, so even leaner yeah ??
Quote from: Golly on September 04, 2013, 07:54:52 AM
Quote from: bombsquad83 on September 04, 2013, 07:15:28 AM
Stock US jets were 37.5 pilots and 122.5 mains. UK was 40 pilots and 125 mains. I switched the jets on mine to the UK sizes and one washer under the needles and I have no complaints with my otherwise stock setup. I'm running probably ~3-3.5 turns out as well.
Oz are 40 pilot 120 mains, so even leaner yeah ??
I would think that setup to be fine, but you may be missing out on some top end power(. The pilot circuit should be fine though (~5k and under)
Quote from: Golly on September 04, 2013, 07:54:52 AM
Quote from: bombsquad83 on September 04, 2013, 07:15:28 AM
Stock US jets were 37.5 pilots and 122.5 mains. UK was 40 pilots and 125 mains. I switched the jets on mine to the UK sizes and one washer under the needles and I have no complaints with my otherwise stock setup. I'm running probably ~3-3.5 turns out as well.
Oz are 40 pilot 120 mains, so even leaner yeah ??
Are you talking about a 2001+ year bike? The carbureators are different in 89-00. They had a 2 jet system (pilot, main), and the 2001+ have a 3 jet system (pilot, mid, main).
I have the older style 2 jet on my '93. I've been thinking about going back to the 122.5 mains for better gas mileage. Going to check my plugs first.
EDIT: I see that you have a '90. I'd never heard of 120's being stock in Australia. Can someone else verify that?
It's been a while, but update:
Got paperwork for the bike so i can register it.
Put some new grips on it :woohoo:
Got the fork seals done, but now waiting on the retaining clips, because the existing ones had disintegrated.
Pics soon, and even after the seals, the front end is like a sponge. Guess I'm getting me some sonic springs sooner than planned.
Quote from: jboogie13 on September 03, 2013, 09:17:12 AM
i will be getting a factory pro kit to play around with it a bit more. I know there is a matrix, but FP knows what they are doing and i like the adjust ability of the kit..what's more is FP doesn't tell you to drill the slides, making everything completely reversible
You might want to compare the included jet sizes (should be listed in the instructions) with Mikuni jet sizes. When I looked at the DynoJet kit I found that the jets they include for the 2001+ are actually smaller than the stock jets and they don't even change the mid-main jet.
I'm not saying the FP kit is bad; just do your research so you know what you're getting.
long time coming update
(http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m439/black9label13/2013-10-23184632_zps5e85ca95.jpg) (http://s334.photobucket.com/user/black9label13/media/2013-10-23184632_zps5e85ca95.jpg.html)
Found a full stainless yoshimura setup on ebay, lunchbox filter installed, decals on tank, new rubber, been riding it for a few weeks now.
From what I have seen on this forum, most don't know the history of suzuki and yoshimura, those who are unaware, should read up on all the work they did together on the R bikes. Some of it is really cool stuff!
also, im finding that my mid range (4-6k) seems a little doggish, gets even worse with a washer on the stock needle, does anybody know where i can get some adjustable needles from say a spare FP kit they have laying around, or if the needles from one of the two stroke bikes would work? (RM, etc)