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Main Area => Odds n Ends => Topic started by: weedahoe on September 12, 2013, 10:52:47 AM

Title: A totaled bike
Post by: weedahoe on September 12, 2013, 10:52:47 AM
Not mine though. A friend brought over his 2007 GSX-R750 for to me do some plastic welding on his fairings to repair some cracks. I was at the time working on putting a new Brocks Sidewinder exhaust on my bike. He had earlier blew his main 30A fuse riding it over here and so he got a truck and trailer and got it here that way. By the time he had got it here he had already replaced the fuse. Anyway, at one point I needed to go to the part store to get some more oil for my bike so we left and werent gone 20 mins. I turned the corner and his bike was on fire. A big tall fire. I jumped out and grabbed a hose and had it under control and out in a couple of minutes. Its a total loss. The Fire Dept came out anyway and the Arson Investigator came out this morning and ruled it electrical which we had already assumed. He thinks the ignition shorted and caused a dead short in the main wore from the battery which in turn heated the wires to melt the insulation which then started the fire.

He has full coverage and GAP so he will be fine but everyone please be careful as this bike was well maintained and shown no issues other than the blowing of a fuse. Now that should have been a heads up but you cant trouble shoot something like that with no power so its just one of those things you never expect.

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Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: john on September 12, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
Arson investigator?  What a joke.
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: weedahoe on September 12, 2013, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: john on September 12, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
Arson investigator?  What a joke.

More so for insurance purposes than anything else although Im sure the insurance company will do their own investigation.
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: adidasguy on September 12, 2013, 11:24:35 AM
 :2guns: They  :police: will blame the person that put in the replacement fuse 'cause 30 amp fuses don't blow unless something is seriously wrong.  :technical:
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: weedahoe on September 12, 2013, 12:57:49 PM
And then they will blame the manufacture for a faulty fuse for not blowing when it should have instead of burning a bike to the ground
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: adidasguy on September 12, 2013, 08:54:33 PM
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Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on September 13, 2013, 07:09:52 AM
Quote from: adidasguy on September 12, 2013, 08:54:33 PM
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Thats usually what is said lol.
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: Kijona on September 13, 2013, 08:44:41 AM
Pics appear to be borked.

Anyway, that sounds like complete crap. I'd be mad as hell.
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on September 13, 2013, 09:12:42 AM
Quote from: Kijona on September 13, 2013, 08:44:41 AM
Pics appear to be borked.

Anyway, that sounds like complete crap. I'd be mad as hell.
thought i was the only one getting the red x of doom.  id behighly pissed too. would like to figure what short bypassed the main fuse. and caused this
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: weedahoe on September 13, 2013, 05:47:22 PM
I will check like permissions on the pics here in a min

The main wire from the battery goes to the starter and ignition. But before that, everything goes through the main fuse. For whatever reason, it didn't pop
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: adidasguy on September 13, 2013, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: weedahoe on September 12, 2013, 12:57:49 PM
And then they will blame the manufacture for a faulty fuse for not blowing when it should have instead of burning a bike to the ground
Maybe it shouldn't have been a 30 amp fuse?
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: weedahoe on September 13, 2013, 09:20:04 PM
The 30A is the correct size for the main fuse. In the fuse box however, the rest for each circuit it protects are 10A and 15A fuses.

The insurance company came and took possession of the bike the morning. I'm sure they will be cutting him a check soon
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: adidasguy on September 13, 2013, 09:59:36 PM
Still no pictures? I recall the last time a bike burned here we had pictures of the flames.
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: xunedeinx on September 16, 2013, 03:32:05 PM
Quote from: adidasguy on September 13, 2013, 09:59:36 PM
Still no pictures? I recall the last time a bike burned here we had pictures of the flames.

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Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: weedahoe on September 16, 2013, 03:57:49 PM
Sorry, forgot about the permission settings (again). Refresh and try again
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: adidasguy on September 16, 2013, 05:02:39 PM
Xune wins hands down for the best pix.  :D

Wonder what made that bike flame up with a new fuse. Anyone ever determine why it flamed up? Battery area is fine. Front may need some buffing and bondo then it should be good to ride again.

Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: weedahoe on September 16, 2013, 05:08:33 PM
IDK what caused it. Fire Dept Arson Inspector said electrical at the ignition.

The owner is waiting to hear what the insurance inspection is going to say although I dont expect it to say anything differently
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: weedahoe on September 16, 2013, 05:12:45 PM
On a side note, I have a Viair 380C on board air compressor on my truck with a 3 gallon tank. It is mainly used for my air horns bit gives enough air to use any air tools or even with an air hose, can be used for flat tires easily. It has a PSI shut off switch and a pressure relief valve on the tank

One night, I left the switch one and it must have bled down a so the compressor kicked on. It never blew the inline fuse but ran until the two 1000 CA / 850 CCA batteries in my truck were dead. It melted the switch I had on it. The pressure relief valve keep any damage from the tank or compressor but the fuse never blew even though it was distorted from the heat from the amp draw from extended and excessive usage of it continuing to run

Moral of the story, fuses dont always blow like they are supposed to.
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on September 18, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
Agreed. but damn that was painful to see.  :cry:
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: Watevaman on September 18, 2013, 06:25:11 PM
that'll buff right out
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: JAS6377 on September 18, 2013, 07:00:51 PM
Good lord. I thought the tank exploded there for a minute, until I saw it was the seat. That sucks quite the big one. I'd be a bit peeved.
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on September 18, 2013, 09:13:15 PM
ive had to repair fire damage before in bikes. doable but not fun.
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: weedahoe on September 20, 2013, 08:40:31 AM
Insurance company is a bit slow (imagine that) but I'm interested to see if they will let him buy it back and if so, how much
Title: Re: A totaled bike
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on September 20, 2013, 08:45:33 AM
Quote from: weedahoe on September 20, 2013, 08:40:31 AM
Insurance company is a bit slow (imagine that) but I'm interested to see if they will let him buy it back and if so, how much
Most will. cuts down what they would pay out. ( example, say htey would write it for idk $5000, but allow him to buy back for idk 2k?  just pulling these numbers out of my head lol, if he went that route, theyd only have to cut a check 3k versus 5k. but title will be branded. here in TN, on a branded title, all i have to do is go to dmv and get a safety check.  title will never be clean though. unless he finds a titled frame. id be concerned though the aluminum on the engine or teh gasketry, whether it took any damage. ( easy to do)