I had my first accident last sunday the 22ND...
Made plans to head to Maine for a nice run with friends, turned out of my driveway got on Maine street... the lane going the opposite way was back to back traffic.. Then this Chevy pickup turns left from a small driveway without looking at me.. he obviously couldn't pass into the opposite lane because of the traffic, so he blocked the entire lane i was in..
I had 10-15 ft of reaction time. Slammed on both brakes, leaving skid marks on the pavement..swerved to the right and let the bike fall.. tried jumping off but didn't have enough time.. my left foot got stuck under the truck and the rest of my back body and side slammed against the door..
woke up laying on the ground staring up at the driver. He just stared.. I got up not knowing the pain and someone helped me sit on the side walk.. then the pain set in.. everywhere was sore.. my eyebrow was bleeding soaking my face.
Cops came, ambulance arrived..and i couldn't breath well at all.. cop told me I had 10 min for someone to come pick up the bike. told him i wouldn't go to the hospital if it was going to be towed.. The fire ems came and took to the bike to their parking lot.. The guy in the truck didn't even get out of it the whole time.
Here i am with stitches, bruises and out of work. Can't walk without help and everything on the left side of my body is damaged. even testicular damage...
cops didn't even take my statement- so I'm headed there soon.
Here's the link to the story..
http://fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20130924%2FGJNEWS_01%2F130929677 (http://fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20130924%2FGJNEWS_01%2F130929677)
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Ouch! In the extreme!
Get well!
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Indeed get well :(. those hurt. no matter what speed, 15' wont work for a panic stop. update us Eh?
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 25, 2013, 10:57:39 AM
Indeed get well :(. those hurt. no matter what speed, 15' wont work for a panic stop. update us Eh?
Thanks guys..
So far injuries are left side shoulder blade, neck muscle, Upper Hip and A huge bruise in a line like half circle on my upper thigh. Testicular damage..black and gross looking.. both knees have gashes and left foot has road rash. more cuts on the foot.
I'm lucky I had most of my gear on. if I didnt id have rash everywhere.
Should have got a cops report ... it was his fault for violating your right of way.
But you never know if the cops got it wrong @ the scene ... then you're screwed ... Its sad really, if one guy is injured enough to need to go to hospital, the other guy's statement has more weight ... But in this case I think the location of the accident will do it ...
You will probably get letters from lawyers in a day or so. That will tell you you're not at fault.
Cool.
Buddha.
i cant see him being at fault if truck was leaving a parking lot.
Quote from: The Buddha on September 25, 2013, 12:45:52 PM
Should have got a cops report ... it was his fault for violating your right of way.
But you never know if the cops got it wrong @ the scene ... then you're screwed ... Its sad really, if one guy is injured enough to need to go to hospital, the other guy's statement has more weight ... But in this case I think the location of the accident will do it ...
You will probably get letters from lawyers in a day or so. That will tell you you're not at fault.
Cool.
Buddha.
They wouldn't take the statement at the scene from me.. so I went today 2 days later to the office to put it in..
It was his fault and even in the paper it says the truck pulled out front of me. At least my lawyer is taking care of this.
You just never expect it to happen.
Quote from: BassWoW on September 25, 2013, 01:00:53 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 25, 2013, 12:45:52 PM
Should have got a cops report ... it was his fault for violating your right of way.
But you never know if the cops got it wrong @ the scene ... then you're screwed ... Its sad really, if one guy is injured enough to need to go to hospital, the other guy's statement has more weight ... But in this case I think the location of the accident will do it ...
You will probably get letters from lawyers in a day or so. That will tell you you're not at fault.
Cool.
Buddha.
They wouldn't take the statement at the scene from me.. so I went today 2 days later to the office to put it in..
It was his fault and even in the paper it says the truck pulled out front of me. At least my lawyer is taking care of this.
You just never expect it to happen.
very true. narrow profile vehicles have this inherent risk. including my goped. least your covered on hte legal side. if you play your cards right, and repair the damage yourself, you could stand to pocket some coin :thumb: but most importantly youre fine albeit a bit beatup. THATS all that matters
Sorry to hear about your accident, and glad that you are relatively ok. I'll probably get flack for this, but at 79 you really shouldn't be on the roads without at least annual competency tests.
Quote from: bryan88 on September 25, 2013, 11:25:41 PM
Sorry to hear about your accident, and glad that you are relatively ok. I'll probably get flack for this, but at 79 you really shouldn't be on the roads without at least annual competency tests.
true. but he wasn't 79. the guy in the truck was ;) but FWIW, some ppl at that age drive better than we younger folk do. they've got enough sense ( usually) to put the phone down while driving lol. ( or riding )
Well that all sucks. Let your lawyer handle this. You will have a lot of medical bills racking up. He will help sort through it all. Remember to not to talk to your or their insurance people without your lawyer present, or on a conference call. I assume he told you that. All you need to say is "you will have to speak to my lawyer." or "I need to clear talking to you with my lawyer." then hang up.
Testicle injury can suck. I really hope you don't have long term pain. Most body parts thankfully heal if you follow doctor's orders. Do not be in a rush to be healed. Make sure everything gets fixed.
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 25, 2013, 11:40:19 PM
Quote from: bryan88 on September 25, 2013, 11:25:41 PM
Sorry to hear about your accident, and glad that you are relatively ok. I'll probably get flack for this, but at 79 ONE really shouldn't be on the roads without at least annual competency tests.
true. but he wasn't 79. the guy in the truck was ;) but FWIW, some ppl at that age drive better than we younger folk do. they've got enough sense ( usually) to put the phone down while driving lol. ( or riding )
Fixed :laugh: I hear you about the experience ect, just think that by that age ones eyesight and reflexes are somewhat dulled. At least enough to warrant said competency tests.
And bryan88, who would administer such competency tests, young people with a chip on their shoulders like you? One should at least get all the facts before jumping to a conclusion about who's at fault in an accident like this, important things like how fast was the bike travelling down that congested city street. Bet the cop was wondering that too.
Flack requested, flack delivered.
Thanks for the intelligent thoughts on the subject yamahonkawazuki.
I hope I didn't miss it,...I read twice,.....how fast were you going?
Sorry for your accident. Hope you recover quick.
THe foot under the truck reminded me of-
(http://gifs.gifbin.com/042011/1304071429_biker-falls-off-bike-pov.gif)
Sorry jack it was a touchy subject :(, did my best to approach it from all angles. to cover it fairly if you will. there really is no standard for said tests. except administer them to ALL drivers. ive seen some drive 40 in interstate traffic. ive had to run shadow behind one in michigan. driving south in the passing lane looking for the exit to go back north for a hospital which was south of us. She was sober as can be, but really had no business behind the wheel. ( had my cb mic in one hand, phone in other. ) cb to warn commercial drivers, and phone which i ended up putting on speaker, with michigans highway patrol. that is an extreme situation there. again ive seen young folks barely old enough to drive. do far worse at times :cry:
Quote from: gsJack on September 26, 2013, 06:20:00 AM
And bryan88, who would administer such competency tests, young people with a chip on their shoulders like you? One should at least get all the facts before jumping to a conclusion about who's at fault in an accident like this, important things like how fast was the bike travelling down that congested city street. Bet the cop was wondering that too.
Flack requested, flack delivered.
Thanks for the intelligent thoughts on the subject yamahonkawazuki.
I was going 15-20 because I let someone cross the street. the adjuster is supposed to come soon today or tomorrow..
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 09:09:22 AM
Quote from: gsJack on September 26, 2013, 06:20:00 AM
And bryan88, who would administer such competency tests, young people with a chip on their shoulders like you? One should at least get all the facts before jumping to a conclusion about who's at fault in an accident like this, important things like how fast was the bike travelling down that congested city street. Bet the cop was wondering that too.
Flack requested, flack delivered.
Thanks for the intelligent thoughts on the subject yamahonkawazuki.
I was going 15-20 because I let someone cross the street. the adjuster is supposed to come soon today or tomorrow..
Accident forensics can measure the skidmarks from the moto and give a pretty good idea of vehicle speeds
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 26, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
Accident forensics can measure the skidmarks from the moto and give a pretty good idea of vehicle speeds
Unreliable at best. Speeds always overstated. In this case the police assumed or a witness said the truck pulled out recklessly. This case is a slam dunk. Maybe 25 or 30 might be too fast for conditions, but for the truck's abrupt movement there would be no accident.
My .02
Quote from: john on September 26, 2013, 11:17:16 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 26, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
Accident forensics can measure the skidmarks from the moto and give a pretty good idea of vehicle speeds
Unreliable at best. Speeds always overstated. In this case the police assumed or a witness said the truck pulled out recklessly. This case is a slam dunk. Maybe 25 or 30 might be too fast for conditions, but for the truck's abrupt movement there would be no accident.
My .02
Very true. but 15-20 seems fine tbh. if a truck or anything pulls out in front of you that close of a distance 5mph youll wreck. no way to avoid this unfortunately.
Quote from: john on September 26, 2013, 11:17:16 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 26, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
Accident forensics can measure the skidmarks from the moto and give a pretty good idea of vehicle speeds
Unreliable at best. Speeds always overstated. In this case the police assumed or a witness said the truck pulled out recklessly. This case is a slam dunk. Maybe 25 or 30 might be too fast for conditions, but for the truck's abrupt movement there would be no accident.
My .02
Right of way violations trump speed violations. The speed doesn't matter.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on September 26, 2013, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: john on September 26, 2013, 11:17:16 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 26, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
Accident forensics can measure the skidmarks from the moto and give a pretty good idea of vehicle speeds
Unreliable at best. Speeds always overstated. In this case the police assumed or a witness said the truck pulled out recklessly. This case is a slam dunk. Maybe 25 or 30 might be too fast for conditions, but for the truck's abrupt movement there would be no accident.
My .02
Right of way violations trump speed violations. The speed doesn't matter.
Cool.
Buddha.
Aye. moto had the right of way. it was in traffic. judging by picture not against a light. looked like truck left parking lot as OP said. open/closed case it seems to me
Also no violations were incurred on the truck driver.. i'm glad you guys read the artical..
Insurance is sending out the adjuster in a few days to look at my motorcycle.
How do they work out the amount of money they give to the person or repair stuff?
Also note: yesterday I felt not as sore- today everything came back.. intense pain in my shoulder leading to the left side of my neck with every full deep intake of air.
All in all..it could have been worse but damn does it hurt.
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 01:01:45 PM
Also no violations were incurred on the truck driver.. i'm glad you guys read the artical..
Insurance is sending out the adjuster in a few days to look at my motorcycle.
How do they work out the amount of money they give to the person or repair stuff?
Also note: yesterday I felt not as sore- today everything came back.. intense pain in my shoulder leading to the left side of my neck with every full deep intake of air.
All in all..it could have been worse but damn does it hurt.
Been there. takes time to "get over it" sucks. and aint no way to make it easier. afaik the values assigned, best recommendation is, get 3 appraisals from stealerships lol. also book value etc. maybe inquire about ( i think its called ) diminished value. basically once its been involved in an accident, it kinda can hurt its KBB
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 01:01:45 PM
Also no violations were incurred on the truck driver.. i'm glad you guys read the artical..
What ? So he wasn't @ fault ? You're probably going to get screwed in that case.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on September 26, 2013, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 01:01:45 PM
Also no violations were incurred on the truck driver.. i'm glad you guys read the artical..
What ? So he wasn't @ fault ? You're probably going to get screwed in that case.
Cool.
Buddha.
he was at fault- i had the right away. traffic on the other lane was backed up and he saw that. he chose to pull up block my entire lane and wait for an opening.
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 26, 2013, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 01:01:45 PM
Also no violations were incurred on the truck driver.. i'm glad you guys read the artical..
What ? So he wasn't @ fault ? You're probably going to get screwed in that case.
Cool.
Buddha.
he was at fault- i had the right away. traffic on the other lane was backed up and he saw that. he chose to pull up block my entire lane and wait for an opening.
What does the ticket say ?
Sometimes cops are too lazy ... they scratch ups some crap and toss it @ you and leave.
One time they took 2 hours to show up, and since it was a very minor fender - non-bender even though I was @ fault, the other guy called the cops and it was kinda hard to determine fault anyway, and the cops talked to em a minute and let me go, and I later found out they wrote him up for making a frivolous call, and a no fault in the accident.
The cops had to have written that he was at fault on the ticket. Else you'll have a very hard time.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: gsJack on September 26, 2013, 06:20:00 AM
And bryan88, who would administer such competency tests, young people with a chip on their shoulders like you? One should at least get all the facts before jumping to a conclusion about who's at fault in an accident like this, important things like how fast was the bike travelling down that congested city street. Bet the cop was wondering that too.
Flack requested, flack delivered.
Thanks for the intelligent thoughts on the subject yamahonkawazuki.
Flack accepted
With regard to testing, just a simple eyesight and reflex test set against accepted standards, no bias or prejudice involved. I am the first to accept that generally young people have more accidents than older drivers and that the experience and more mature attitudes of older people makes them much safer drivers. In my town we recently had a horrific accident where a 23yr old driving a heavy articulated truck went through an intersection killing 23 people, and everybody is asking what such a young person was doing driving long distance in a big rig. I accept that age is a sensitive issue ( I'm 43 BTW, so don't really qualify as "young people") and that everybody/case is different, but for general purposes I do think there comes an age where drivers need to be monitored more closely.
"... like how fast was the bike travelling down that congested city street. Bet the cop was wondering that too." Are you not falling victim to that very same prejudice (seeing as it was a young guy, riding a motorcycle, he was obviously going too fast)?
Lastly, I'm surprised that the driver wasn't asked to step out of the vehicle. I don't know what it would/could prove (or disprove if you think I am jumping to conclusions), I just find it strange.
Here in New South Wales, Australia, drivers aged 80 and over need to pass a yearly driving test. I too agree younger drivers are involved in more crashes, statistics show that. However there does come a point where eyesight, hearing and reflexes do deteriorate which can be dangerous and there needs to be some sort of testing to make sure that isn't a safety issue on the road I think.
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 26, 2013, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 01:01:45 PM
Also no violations were incurred on the truck driver.. i'm glad you guys read the artical..
What ? So he wasn't @ fault ? You're probably going to get screwed in that case.
Cool.
Buddha.
he was at fault- i had the right away. traffic on the other lane was backed up and he saw that. he chose to pull up block my entire lane and wait for an opening.
Sounds like they faulted him, but it wasnt considered a moving violation. aka no points on license. but has to pay up
I was not suggesting that BassWoW was actually riding too fast, just used it as an example of a possible fact that we did not know when bryan88 suggested that older drivers should have competency tests. My apologies to BassWoW if this was misunderstood.
bryan88 and Zookmang, I remain opposed to any kind of retesting of drivers because of age. I've always felt that any type of retesting should apply to all drivers of all ages equally regardless of age like yamahonkawazuki suggested in his post. When the letters to the editors flow in after the news of an accident involving an elderly driver demand retesting of older drivers I usually post a suggestion that since stats show drivers in the 15-25 age group still have the most accidents that raising the age to start driving to 25 would do more to promote safety than getting the old folks off the road would. Not going to happen of course.
Zookmang, there does come a point where eyesight, hearing and reflexes deteriorate but this varies greatly between individuals. Here in the state of Ohio all ages must appear in person to renew their driver licenses and take an eye test and they can at least see we are warm and breathing when we appear and judge our hearing by whether we can hear them speaking. I checked once some years ago and found that you could renew your license in the states of Florida and Arizona by mail, states where many elderly retire to. That needs to change for everybody if it hasn't already.
Heck when i lived in AZ in 2001 my DL didnt expire until my 65th birthday lol. between 27 and 65 left alot of time for things to happen.
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 27, 2013, 08:39:09 AM
Heck when i lived in AZ in 2001 my DL didnt expire until my 65th birthday lol. between 27 and 65 left alot of time for things to happen.
You lived in AZ ? I didn't know that, how you like that place ?
Cool.
Buddha.
Probably sucked... being as how that's John's home state... :flipoff:
- Bboy
Quote from: The Buddha on September 27, 2013, 12:39:35 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 27, 2013, 08:39:09 AM
Heck when i lived in AZ in 2001 my DL didnt expire until my 65th birthday lol. between 27 and 65 left alot of time for things to happen.
You lived in AZ ? I didn't know that, how you like that place ?
Cool.
Buddha.
I was on bell rd mostly. ( deer valley later on) anyhoo, the tweakers ruined it for me. ( meth heads) stole alot of what i hold precious. weatherwise, sucked at first. bought shoes once a month ( spring and summer) ended up using goodwill lol. december, 75f day 31f at night alot of times. and the occasional hajoob lol. but fwiw, did like it
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 27, 2013, 12:45:47 PM
anyhoo, the tweakers ruined it for me. ( meth heads) stole alot of what i hold precious.
Must have really sucked being that close to John...
:icon_mrgreen:
- Bboy
Quote from: BockinBboy on September 27, 2013, 12:47:39 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 27, 2013, 12:45:47 PM
anyhoo, the tweakers ruined it for me. ( meth heads) stole alot of what i hold precious.
Must have really sucked being that close to John...
:icon_mrgreen:
- Bboy
LOL IIRC i came back here in 2001, and john and the hidden wife, went out that was a few years later? afaik i signed up here jun '03, was sometime after that.
Yea John was an MA resident, and I think I may have been in MA the same time he was ... I was there 1995 spring.
But summer I moved to CA, John went there 5-6 yrs ago. I moved to NC in 2002.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on September 27, 2013, 01:22:40 PM
Yea John was an MA resident, and I think I may have been in MA the same time he was ... I was there 1995 spring.
But summer I moved to CA, John went there 5-6 yrs ago. I moved to NC in 2002.
Cool.
Buddha.
thats what it was. was wanting to say 05 or 06 perhaps
I currently live in AZ. Been here since 95. I kinda hate the weather, but oh well. Wife and kids are from here so no moving in my future. Its kinda weird that the "riding season" here is opposite of the rest of the country, although most of the hard core riders around here believe there's a year-round riding season. (I have ridden year-round, but 110+ F is a biscuit to ride in).
I had one guy who had to be pushing 95 back into my car in a parking lot. He trapped my rear wheel so I couldn't move. I was blaring my horn and he kept backing up. My wife finally had to get out of the car and pound on his window to get him to stop. When he did finally, he rolled down the window and asked, "did I hit something?" I think that's beyond the time someone should stop driving. I don't think age should be the deciding factor, though. I had a friend who rode his Gold Wing from Atlanta to Anchorage and back, stopping at Sturgis on the way back, for his 80th birthday!
As far as people pulling out and blocking your lane waiting to get into the opposite lane, I hate when people do that!! People do that here all the time. That, and turning left into the "suicide lane", the middle turn lane. Can't tell you how many times I've almost been hit or hit someone who has done that at the same time I get into that lane to actually turn left - which is what the lane is for. Pisses me off something fierce.
Quote from: The Buddha on September 26, 2013, 05:49:18 PM
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 26, 2013, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 01:01:45 PM
Also no violations were incurred on the truck driver.. i'm glad you guys read the artical..
What ? So he wasn't @ fault ? You're probably going to get screwed in that case.
Cool.
Buddha.
he was at fault- i had the right away. traffic on the other lane was backed up and he saw that. he chose to pull up block my entire lane and wait for an opening.
What does the ticket say ?
Sometimes cops are too lazy ... they scratch ups some crap and toss it @ you and leave.
One time they took 2 hours to show up, and since it was a very minor fender - non-bender even though I was @ fault, the other guy called the cops and it was kinda hard to determine fault anyway, and the cops talked to em a minute and let me go, and I later found out they wrote him up for making a frivolous call, and a no fault in the accident.
The cops had to have written that he was at fault on the ticket. Else you'll have a very hard time.
Cool.
Buddha.
The guy didn't get a ticket. No violations cited but I asked who was at fault today.
The cop came back to say they state the facts in the accident report and the insurance deems who is at fault.
Ins't that crap!?
Quote from: BassWoW on September 27, 2013, 03:20:35 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 26, 2013, 05:49:18 PM
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 26, 2013, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: BassWoW on September 26, 2013, 01:01:45 PM
Also no violations were incurred on the truck driver.. i'm glad you guys read the artical..
What ? So he wasn't @ fault ? You're probably going to get screwed in that case.
Cool.
Buddha.
he was at fault- i had the right away. traffic on the other lane was backed up and he saw that. he chose to pull up block my entire lane and wait for an opening.
What does the ticket say ?
Sometimes cops are too lazy ... they scratch ups some crap and toss it @ you and leave.
One time they took 2 hours to show up, and since it was a very minor fender - non-bender even though I was @ fault, the other guy called the cops and it was kinda hard to determine fault anyway, and the cops talked to em a minute and let me go, and I later found out they wrote him up for making a frivolous call, and a no fault in the accident.
The cops had to have written that he was at fault on the ticket. Else you'll have a very hard time.
Cool.
Buddha.
The guy didn't get a ticket. No violations cited but I asked who was at fault today.
The cop came back to say they state the facts in the accident report and the insurance deems who is at fault.
Ins't that crap!?
Ticket is only if he broke the law ...
As in he was driving wrong way down a 1 way street ... So if it was legal to do what he did without you in the picture that = ticket.
At fault is more important. If he was, you're good, ticket isn't needed.
Cool.
Buddha.
'zactly ^^^^^^^^^ :thumb:
Am pretty sure hes at fault. i see no reason why he wouldnt be. a citation otoh although it does help not vital. lady that destroyed my chevrolet pickup ( 85 c10) with a toyota sienna, without lights on at 10pm on a rainy night, ( plus i had witnesses) had to wait for nationwide ( her carrier) to admit fault. said to them when they finally did so, " i should hope you will lol" anyhoo this looks like that situation. keep after em, things will work out in your favor
The AZ talk almost jacked this thread but now it's back on topic.
The police and insurance are separate investigations. Just b/c someone gets or does not get a ticket, does not mean that party is liable for the damages to the other party. (At Fault as mentioned above)
The OP asked about how much they'll get. The physical damage to the bike is easy... it's totaled and you'll get actual cash value for replacing it with a like kind and quality. The bodily injury part of this is also easy... you'll get a settlement offer for your medical bills x2 or x3. The catch is your lawyer will take 1/3 of the settlement. So you really end up with bills and expenses (missed work etc.) paid, a replaced bike (and gear), and some cash. The amount of cash depends on your med bills. These bills are the only way the insurance company can quantify how much you were hurt. They will not look to offer the cash until you've finished or nearly finished your treatment. That could take a while.
Since you've already involved lawyers, use them to work the ins. company. They're not always out to screw you, but you can usually squeeze them for more than their offer. For example, your lawyer will demand $75K, they offer $15K, then like car salesmen they go at it and settle at $42K.
My.02, take your time, work with the lawyers, go to the dr.s and get better.
Good luck.
http://learningdisabilities.about.com/od/eh/a/executive_funct.htm
Unfortunately one of the things that happen to many people as they age. Since it affects decision-making based on retained/lost past experience, ability to process sensory input and calculate future outcomes the loss of excecutive function can have a huge effect on driving behaviour.
Hi, sorry about being banged up!
A quick question on the injuries, how did the cut on your eyebrow happen. Was your visor up or did it shatter?
Get well soon.
Brett
Quote from: bryan88 on September 25, 2013, 11:25:41 PM
Sorry to hear about your accident, and glad that you are relatively ok. I'll probably get flack for this, but at 79 you really shouldn't be on the roads without at least annual competency tests.
i've ridden with some guys in their 70's. they have stockpiles of wit and wisdom enough to tear you to shreds in a conversation, and the kindness to -not- do so, even when you deserve it.
oh
and they ride. fassssst. smoooooth. committed to berms, hills, ledges, and lines that most folks can't.
offroad, onroad, track days.
so, go ahead and talk some more about age being a deciding factor of proficiency. they'll have a damned good laugh at your expense as they're hobbling back to their steeds.
that being said, there are PLENTY of completely inadequately trained (if at all) youngsters on bikes exponentially more powerful than the skillsets required to handle them. and middle aged guys. and moms. and dads. and uncles. we all fit into that group at some point in time, or condition of terrain. or both.
age is not a deciding factor. it is a number. the maturity and desire to accomplish tasks outweighs all handicaps, disabilities, and otherwise moot assumptions.
hats off to old guys that bite their tongues so much it's confused with a wad of tobacco at times.
and to the OP, heal well, heal soon.
Quote from: ohgood on October 01, 2013, 11:26:20 AMi've ridden with some guys in their 70's. they have stockpiles of wit and wisdom enough to tear you to shreds in a conversation, and the kindness to -not- do so, even when you deserve it.
The guy driving the truck is 79, not the guy who got hit. That is all irrelevant.
Quote from: RossLH on October 01, 2013, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: ohgood on October 01, 2013, 11:26:20 AMi've ridden with some guys in their 70's. they have stockpiles of wit and wisdom enough to tear you to shreds in a conversation, and the kindness to -not- do so, even when you deserve it.
The guy driving the truck is 79, not the guy who got hit. That is all irrelevant.
Really? So you agree with taking all the car drivers off the road after a certain age, but everyone younger than that is safe?
Quote from: ohgood on October 01, 2013, 03:06:51 PMReally? So you agree with taking all the car drivers off the road after a certain age, but everyone younger than that is safe?
Take it easy slugger, no need to put words in my mouth. Bad drivers are bad drivers, regardless of age. And those ancient drivers rolling down the road in their 6000lb steel body land yachts going 30mph in the passing lane are pretty hard to compare to those 70 year old guys who have been riding motorcycles their whole lives. Bad motorcyclists weed themselves out. Bad drivers weed out good motorcyclists.
Quote from: GatorTrae on September 29, 2013, 07:53:11 PM
The AZ talk almost jacked this thread but now it's back on topic.
They will not look to offer the cash until you've finished or nearly finished your treatment. That could take a while.
Since you've already involved lawyers, use them to work the ins. company. They're not always out to screw you, but you can usually squeeze them for more than their offer. For example, your lawyer will demand $75K, they offer $15K, then like car salesmen they go at it and settle at $42K.
My.02, take your time, work with the lawyers, go to the dr.s and get better.
Good luck.
Absolutly.. Lawyer stated that the property damage would be taken care of by me and the insurance... bodily and injury through him.
Insurance guy came monday and offered me book 2310$ for the bike being totalled. 500$ salvage...pending the investigation and insurance decision the check will be mailed to me.
A lot of you cleared up my questions. Thanks!!
Quote from: SAFE-T on September 30, 2013, 01:59:36 PM
http://learningdisabilities.about.com/od/eh/a/executive_funct.htm
Unfortunately one of the things that happen to many people as they age. Since it affects decision-making based on retained/lost past experience, ability to process sensory input and calculate future outcomes the loss of excecutive function can have a huge effect on driving behaviour.
That can be true..in the statement the guy said he didnt see me coming.. but I was positive we made eye contact before hand... Either way I can doubt myself and believe he might just have not seen me.
That or the cranky old man saw the backed up traffic and no opening, saw me and thought that a-hole better stop for me and ill wait for an opening..
Either way he shouldn't have attempted the left turn. There was no room/opening and backed up traffic. He had no business at all to even try. it happened..and I have respect for the more experianced and aged riders. We all get there one day and its how you make it not a stereotype.
Quote from: bmf on October 01, 2013, 11:05:18 AM
Hi, sorry about being banged up!
A quick question on the injuries, how did the cut on your eyebrow happen. Was your visor up or did it shatter?
Get well soon.
Brett
I wasn't wearing my helmet..I put it on the seat latch and was heading to a gas station in town then was going to gown that on. Stupid me but it was a beautiful day!
So when my head hit the truck my glasses broke and the glass cut my eyebrow up.