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Title: gimbel
Post by: Donnie on December 11, 2013, 03:36:02 PM
MY GIMBEL,S ARE HERE !!!!!! THE REAR SETS ARE IN FOR A COLD TEST RIDE... ! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: adidasguy on December 11, 2013, 04:26:04 PM
Left side goes on easy and you'll probably find yourself adjusting the clutch lever a couple times.
Right side: The hose from the brake reservoir to the master cylinder will be tight! Stretch carefully or as I will probably do on Husky, put in a longer hose. Master cylinder goes on the outside (the diagrams are a little confusing).
You will have to cut off the end of the threaded rod of the master cylinder. It is too long for the Gimbel.
(Put on 3 sets so far! If you have problems or questions, just PM me or post here with pictures.)
You'll LOVE the Gimbels!
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: Donnie on December 12, 2013, 12:35:30 PM
Thanks for the heads up Adidas! ya say I'll probably have to readjust the clutch lever? I haven't got to do much more than pre-assemble some of the kit. Is there any issue with the center stand being in contact or in the way? I have been told that it might present a problem. If so, do you recommend shorting the push down arm? I am so fired up to get them on !!! Although here in Ohio as I'm sure you have to deal with this time of year in Washington, IT'S FREEZING!!! Wind chill took us down to a few degrees below 0 here lately.
  On another note, will I get to convince you to part with an upper yoke and bar mount set up? After thinking it through I think I'd like to try the shorter( stock length I believe ) bar risers. Have not rode this Type of set up except on my gixter 1000. But with having the Gimbel's I think it would only make sense to have the lower "89" setup. At my mighty height of 5 ft. 8 in. I'm really thinking that the fit should be about right... Mods to engine and carbs are pretty much complete, just really looking forward to a little more zip and of course better gas mileage than the 1000. I have a good friend who about 10 yrs. ago moved out to your neck of the woods and would love to visit him this summer, maybe I could put the 500 on a cross country trip and see him and meet you and all the other guys who frequent the bike cave. It's not just because I happen to own a 500f, but it's has to be one of the best all around bikes to enjoy. I researched a lot of bikes in this engine size and style but it's really hard to beat the 500 f or e. Come on Warmer Weather !!!
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: adidasguy on December 12, 2013, 12:43:52 PM
I meant you'd probably adjust the SHIFT lever a few times until you have it where you like it. Sorry about that. With the feet in a different position you'll play the first week. You probably will adjust the brake pedal a couple times, too. You can browse pictures of Phenix and Junior to see the approximate positions of those pedals.

I have no problems with the center stand. Yes - it is now between the peg and the shift lever but is low enough it is not an issue. It might get pressed a little when you press your foot down but I've never seen a problem nor has anyone else riding Junior or Phenix (Husky is getting Gimbel's, too).

Let me inventory parts this weekend and see what I can part with. There might be a spare 89 set I can let you have.
I know I have plenty of bars and top plates. Its the raisers I have short supply of for the 89's and type-1's.
You're same size as me and I find the clip-ons with the Gimbels make the bike really want to do twisties and is fine to ride all day without getting tired. (Taller people might have issues.)
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: steezin_and_wheezin on December 12, 2013, 01:17:30 PM
Adidas nailed it!

I ended up pulling my center stand off since it was a bit tight fit on my 06. It wasn't too far in the way, but I didn't like the look of it disrupting the sexy rearsets. I just drop it on when I need to hoist for maintenance.

You're going to love the gimbels! I'm 5'-6"ish and with the 89 bar setup they are perfect fit when in the mountains. Add upgraded fork springs/fluid, a nice rear shock and its such a solid ride! Its a bit aggressive posture for long cruises though

- Shameless plug - Here's a photo of mine mounted on my Gabby (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll129/steezin_and_wheezin/DSCN5170_zpsbf401ba9.jpg)
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: Watevaman on December 12, 2013, 02:28:44 PM
shaZam! steezin, we're gonna have to get together in the spring and you gotta let me see how they feel. lotta money for something I might not like, but they might mesh with the clubmans a bit better.
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on December 12, 2013, 02:41:43 PM
had gimbels on my 2nd out of 5 gs'  that itself is one bike I miss. the first one weas the reason behind my username lol.
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: Donnie on December 12, 2013, 03:57:23 PM
I can see many reasons to take some long rides this summer. I didn't realize that there were as many 500 riders toward the east coast. Heck yes I love to head down to Tn. and over to Va. Just more of a reason to escape from the same old roads. I'd have to say this forum is one of the best around for great people and good advice !!!  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: adidasguy on December 12, 2013, 04:06:22 PM
Center stand is OK.
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Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: Donnie on December 26, 2013, 08:53:37 AM
Couldn't resist,,, Had to play with my Christmas presents... they weren't ready to go on the Rooster yet but .... Ya know, like a Kid at Christmas!!! Power coat and Gimbels!!! :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:

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Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on January 02, 2014, 12:19:00 AM
I wonder how long the powdercoat will last meshing with the chain. please do update periodically eh?
Aaron
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: adidasguy on January 02, 2014, 01:31:16 AM
I know the Gimbel instructions are worse than Ikea, so here are photos of newly installed set.
The brake reservoir hose is stretched tight, but does fit.
You will need to cut off the end of the threaded shaft for the master cylinder. The pressure switch for the brake light is nice.
Adjust to suit your riding style. Here are mine. My 3rd set now.
When you install it, go stainless brake line.
They use a 90* adapter for the pressure switch. If the switch mounts vertical, it is harder to get the bubble out of it. If switch is horizontal, less chance for a bubble.
(http://www.gs500.net/gallery/data/503/DSC03869a.JPG) (http://www.gs500.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/562/title/dsc03869a/cat/503)
(http://www.gs500.net/gallery/data/503/DSC03868a.JPG) (http://www.gs500.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/561/title/dsc03868a/cat/503)
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: Donnie on January 02, 2014, 01:10:56 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on January 02, 2014, 12:19:00 AM
I wonder how long the powdercoat will last meshing with the chain. please do update periodically eh?
Aaron

Not long... The chain will make a u shaped pattern but surprisingly the tips of the sprocket will will stay red... I really only did the sprocket on a suggestion from my powder coater. The original idea was to only to coat the hub black but one thing led to another..
  I did the sprocket on a couple of other bikes. This time I hadn't planned on it but thought I'd see what It looked like....
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: Donnie on January 02, 2014, 02:15:26 PM
Quote from: adidasguy on January 02, 2014, 01:31:16 AM
I know the Gimbel instructions are worse than Ikea, so here are photos of newly installed set.
The brake reservoir hose is stretched tight, but does fit.
You will need to cut off the end of the threaded shaft for the master cylinder. The pressure switch for the brake light is nice.
Adjust to suit your riding style. Here are mine. My 3rd set now.
When you install it, go stainless brake line.
They use a 90* adapter for the pressure switch. If the switch mounts vertical, it is harder to get the bubble out of it. If switch is horizontal, less chance for a bubble.
(http://www.gs500.net/gallery/data/503/DSC03869a.JPG) (http://www.gs500.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/562/title/dsc03869a/cat/503)
(http://www.gs500.net/gallery/data/503/DSC03868a.JPG) (http://www.gs500.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/561/title/dsc03868a/cat/503)

Definitely like the idea of the stainless steel brake line, thanks for the heads up Adidas. I figured out the master cylinder rod when I did the mock up of parts, not much else you can do given the circumstances. It looks good. I looked around at the LSL rear pegs, got a little confused on which ones and if I need the swivles? They do match real well with the Gimbels though... Hey here are a couple of pics. of the accents I did to the Gimbels, haven't seen them on the bike yet so I hope I didn't go to over kill... was just trying to give them a different flavor

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Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: adidasguy on January 02, 2014, 03:03:57 PM
Looking good. Too bad you didn't do it in purple and gold. I had bought a powder setup but never have gotten around to using it. What are you using for the oven?

I'll see if I have the part numbers for the passenger pegs. I remember seeing them last week. There is the swivel then you buy the pegs that bolt on to them.
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: Donnie on January 02, 2014, 03:38:12 PM
Now there is an idea.. Time to try out your powder coater. That would look good to go along with your Husky bike! I have a friend who has a coating business and for a little labor swapping he takes care of the crazy things I come up with. It's a messier process than you would imagine when you only coat certain areas of something. He always cringes when I walk in with something. He wants to know when I'm gonna do something easy? I always say if it was easy then I wouldn't be Donnie...
   I have seen him hang small parts in a small ceramic oven. Temperature control is easier on delicate parts.
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: adidasguy on January 02, 2014, 03:50:00 PM
Oh, I thought you got a powder coating kit for Xmas.
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: Donnie on January 02, 2014, 08:09:49 PM
Quote from: adidasguy on January 02, 2014, 03:50:00 PM
Oh, I thought you got a powder coating kit for Xmas.

Now....! don't give me any ideals... My birthday is the 5th of this month  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: steezin_and_wheezin on January 09, 2014, 01:20:04 PM
Nice touch! I like it, I've always thought of getting my powder coated black and leaving the inside edges silver. It came out looking good!

Can't wait to see them back on the bike
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: Donnie on January 10, 2014, 11:32:18 AM
Thanks Steezin, I have a little bit left that I want to do to the Red Rooster before it will get off the perch. But I am now looking forward to spring! I do carb rebuilds on mostly vintage set ups and specialize in Honda Goldwings carbs and the work load is now just starting to build up. Just hope I can get a couple of my own projects done before I get too busy. I'll get some pictures going after I complete some more assembly. By all means, personalize your Gimbels, every little touch tells something about the rider!
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: jacob92icu on January 10, 2014, 12:16:51 PM
Geeeeze, you folks are short! Haha. Love how the gimbels turned out, but i need a picture of your bike! if I'm correct in thinking so, you are the first guy to customize the color of the gimbels.  :thumb:
Title: Re: gimbel
Post by: Donnie on January 10, 2014, 02:55:13 PM
Jacob, not sure I'm the 1st to customize Gimbels but thank you for the compliment. My GS500 was not meant to be any kind of show bike. I bought it out of a pole barn that had not yet had a concrete floor in it. Actually the floor had a small stream running through it and several bikes setting off to the side on shipping crates. When I found it , it was advertised at $650.00. After looking it over I discovered that it had not ran for a few years and the gas tank had so many pin holes in it that it looked like someone had shot it with buck shot. The tank actually leaked from under the factory decals. Bearings needed replaced in the wheels, swing arm linkage and so on. The only thing it had going for it was it only had about 6000 miles on it. After a few beers and so negotiation I ended up paying $275.00. My initial thought was to just bring it back to life and enjoy the gas mileage and smallness of the design, being that I'm a short person of a whole 5'8". Well... after I got on to this site it just seemed to snow ball into a complete rebuild. I have a few bikes, gixer 1000, a street tracker 250 and a couple of others. None of which get any kind of gas mileage. The 250 has a Viper racing engine that is lucky to get 7 or 8 miles to the gallon, it was one of my flat track bikes that I race. After all was said and done the E model ended up an F. Trans planted the E frame with a F frame (2009). I opened up the engine for inspection and clean up, modified the carbs a little and did some porting and polishing. I knew that it was never meant to be a screamer so all the work done was done with as much gas mileage and reliability and 100 mph. cruising speed for miles on end, just my style of riding. I love cruise control and and laying on the tank with no need for steering with my hands. As soon as I get all the paint done on the fairings and the stock decals put on I definitely will post some more pictures on the "E to an F" thread. Thanks to all that have helped so far with a vision that I have in my mind. No matter what guys and gals, always make what you have your own with your taste of personal touches.