Yup. Had my first accident. Was stopped at a roundabout waiting for an opening and was slammed into from behind at about 40-45kph.
A bit shaken up but mostly ok, I just wanna know what hidden problems this could do to my bike. I can see the obvious damage; cracked fairing, ripped out the bar end, nearly tore my muffler off, broken mirror ect.
But im worried about shock damage or swingarm damage. Im taking the bike to the stealership but I havnt been there before so cant really vouch for their competency.
Cheers.
What was their excuse on why they didn't see you? Gad you are ok though.
THEY hit you so aren't they liable?
By your description, it might be the bike is totaled and they owe you a new bike.
Important to see if the main frame is bent or twisted in any way. If so, demand a new bike. Bent frame is enough to call it totaled.
More details, please. Is there a police report? Was the other driver ticketed?
Pictures?
Thanks for the replys guys. Driver wasnt ticketed and I managed to ride it slowly home. Took it for another spin today to get a feel of anything off. Wasnt crabbing and suspension felt the same. Back wheel is creaking as it spins tho. I had it up on the center stand and was spinning the wheel to see for any deformation and it was making loud creaks. Maybe a dead bearing?
I actually think I/the bike did more damage to her car.
Cant tell if the frame is bent without taking the fairings off so ill leave it to the mechs tomorrow.
Cheers
What the actual f%$k? I don't get it. How can he not be ticketed?
Who is paying for the damage? If it were me, I'd find the fucker and rip his balls out.
She is paying for all damages but I gotta get a collision quote. Might score an aftermarket exhaust out of it :-)
Quote from: Hardy on January 05, 2014, 11:24:20 PM
Yup. Had my first accident. Was stopped at a roundabout waiting for an opening and was slammed into from behind at about 40-45kph.
45KPH......are you sure?
That's about 30mph, if a vehicle hit your bike while stationary from behind at that speed it will be a total wreck!!
Unless it's obvious you ain't telling if the frame is bent. You need to get it into the hands of a mechanic who can properly test for bent frame.
Fairing damage alone can be expensive and the stock muffler is pricey (more than double a full aftermarket exhaust); so depending on the age/value of the bike, that might be enough that it's totaled (i.e. repairs cost more than it's worth).
Personal experience here: People (who cause minor damage to someone's motorcycle) think that the damage can't be that much. Rather just pay out of pocket than file insurance claim then pay higher premiums. Then you give them the actual estimate from a dealer and they freak out. Then they start looking at the situation from a defensive position. Then they realize they can't afford $1000+, so would have to file a claim. Even if they file a claim, insurance may not pay because there is no police report. I hope for the best for you, but without a police report, I'm afraid you are screwed. Glad you are not hurt though.
Back wheel creeking might be bent brake rotor.
Even if no ticket, there should be a police accident report if the police were there.
Quote from: adidasguy on January 06, 2014, 01:21:53 PM
Even if no ticket, there should be a police accident report if the police were there.
This.
If you were hit from behind at an entry the other driver really has no excuse so long as you didn't do something like pass them then slam on the brakes.
If you're trying to settle it outside of insurance try to get everything through as fast as possible. The longer you wait the less likely they'll be willing to pay. Hopefully you took pictures? Are you able to pull up the police report yet?
From experience: Never ....ever... repeat....never .....ever leave an accident scene without getting the police to make a report. This is even if you think it might be your fault. It doesn't matter what they promise at the time....people seem to have a very short memory when it's going to cost them money.
Damn that could have been a nasty wreck, glad to hear you are OK Hardy!
Quote from: Paulcet on January 06, 2014, 11:27:43 AM
Personal experience here: People (who cause minor damage to someone's motorcycle) think that the damage can't be that much. Rather just pay out of pocket than file insurance claim then pay higher premiums. Then you give them the actual estimate from a dealer and they freak out. Then they start looking at the situation from a defensive position. Then they realize they can't afford $1000+, so would have to file a claim. Even if they file a claim, insurance may not pay because there is no police report. I hope for the best for you, but without a police report, I'm afraid you are screwed. Glad you are not hurt though.
This.
I've seen this story so many times, car driver sees bike is ridable, figures its going to cost them couple of hundred, says they'll pay. Rider doesn't get cops involved, later driver sees repairs quote and has sudden untreatable memory loss regarding their promise and whose fault it really was.
I wish you luck. If she does pay, buy yourself a lottery ticket cos its your lucky day!!!
Quote from: weedahoe on January 06, 2014, 12:14:43 AM
What was their excuse on why they didn't see you? Gad you are ok though.
check the wheel. count on replacement, the swingarm, the pivot bolt, the axle, the frame, the subframe, the electrics etc. im assuming theyre at fault, so take it to a stealership, you may end up with a new bike lol. 45kph is pretty significant stuff gets bent or broken at speeds less than that. BUT am glad youre okay my friend. I was backed into by a produce truck who was wanting to talk to car in oncoming lane lol. slowest crash ever. and it destroyed my headlight. this was maybe 2mph? so that speed of yours, bike needs work. rest up, get checked out yourself as well. and PLEASE update us Eh?
Ok. Only a quick look over by the mech, full quote coming. Nose faring, front rotor, front wheel, muffler, brake lever and bar end. No obvious rear end/frame damage. Still gonna be classed as a write off by insurance prob, so gonna Sit down with the driver and discuss options. Im happy to cheap out on somethings and replace myself but some things I want factory.
Quote from: Hardy on January 06, 2014, 11:14:13 PM
Ok. Only a quick look over by the mech, full quote coming. Nose faring, front rotor, front wheel, muffler, brake lever and bar end. No obvious rear end/frame damage. Still gonna be classed as a write off by insurance prob, so gonna Sit down with the driver and discuss options. Im happy to cheap out on somethings and replace myself but some things I want factory.
Cool. however look at it this way. if a write-off, it ruins its title. get the most you can. then you might be able to find another one. OR you can press for a reduced value check as well. even if restored to 100%, still worth less than a non totaled gs. you've got a few options my friend. but first and foremost. you've survived relatively intact. have an estimate also at a suzi dealer. a DETAILED estimate. can do a buyback from insurance, and use the money and do repairs yourself. using factory parts if desired ( notice you mention this) cards are on the table. you've got some options Eh? pics? , I wish you the best.
Aaron
Quote from: Hardy on January 06, 2014, 11:14:13 PMNose faring, front rotor, front wheel, muffler, brake lever and bar end.
Cowling: $223
Tape Set: $28
Fr. Rotor: $206
Fr. Wheel: $482
Muffler: $1210
Br. Lever: $62
Weight: $25
That's $2442 in parts alone; factor in labor and you've got at least a $2700 repair bill.
Judging by these responses I take it that you left the accident scene without getting the police to make a report? Have you considered the possibility that a driver can go to the station and say you went in front, slammed the brakes, and that you rode off?
If the driver refuses to pay, changes story, etc. you pretty much brought it on yourself. Too many people go frolicking around on the street without the right mindset and skills to deal with the dark side of motorcycle riding.
Sorry to hear about your accident, glad to hear you are ok. Good luck with getting the driver to pay and getting back on the road.
They hit you from behind and there is no damage there, but the front is damaged. Enough to wreck a wheel and rotor but not bend a fork? How does that happen?
Quote from: Hardy on January 05, 2014, 11:24:20 PM
Yup. Had my first accident. Was stopped at a roundabout waiting for an opening and was slammed into from behind at about 40-45kph.
Cheers.
If this really was the case ie 30mph from behind you
wouldn't have been riding it home :dunno_black:
Unless the back tyre was overinflated and the vehicle `bounced off` :D :D :D
Quote from: Hardy on January 06, 2014, 11:14:13 PM
Ok. Only a quick look over by the mech, full quote coming. Nose faring, front rotor, front wheel, muffler, brake lever and bar end. No obvious rear end/frame damage. Still gonna be classed as a write off by insurance prob, so gonna Sit down with the driver and discuss options. Im happy to cheap out on somethings and replace myself but some things I want factory.
You should also be compensated for damage to your helmet, jacket, etc - if any.
Thanks for the responses guys. Front wheel and rotor scraped on the road.
So far the driver is being very cooperative with the whole thing and is very sympathetic. Im going by her story in the speed I honestly have no idea as I didnt even see her aproaching.
She's filing an insurance claim for her car and probably my bike by the sounds of things as there is quite a bit of damage to her front bumper.
Any idea what sort of payout we get for a wrecked 09 gs500f?
NADA average retail in my area is $3715
Normally, in Aust, you file your insurance and They claim against her insurance. In which case, you need her insurance details.
What you would get paid out is dependent on what Market Value the insurance company has. Only your insurance company can answer that.
Sorry about the idiot hitting you.
It's reminded me that I must keep in first whenever stopped and monitor my mirrors to avoid such unpleasant meetings with more idiots!!
Times like that we wish we were Ogri!
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I'm still confused with this whole 30mph thing.
and imagine your bike is the wall----- shaZam! would be totaled!
Quote from: AnonRider on January 09, 2014, 03:12:42 PM
I'm still confused with this whole 30mph thing.
and imagine your bike is the wall----- shaZam! would be totaled!
It was nowhere near that speed, it couldn't have been. A 30mph impact has the same force as hitting the ground from 3 storeys up!!
The rear tyre would have unseated or burst and the wheel at the very least buckled, maybe even shattered and there would be extensive frame and suspension damage to the back half.
The rider would have whiplash so bad he couldn't walk for a week,
Every sympathy and I am glad you are ok but something is being exaggerated somewhere :D
1st off I'm glad you're ok. Guys get off the speed thing, you're hung up on that. Fact is bud you messed up not getting the police involved but it seems to be working oit for you in that you were hit by a honest person who can admit she messed up and then handle her responsibilities. The insurance company will tell you what they'll give you and as long as it's fair market value take it, if not threaten to get a lawyer. Most of the time they'll up it a bit more to avoid litigation. Good luck to you and thank God you're safe.
I would think that the 30MPH speed would be what she was doing before she hit the brakes. I saw a person hit by a car at a similar speed and the person did not have a good day at all. As for the insurance payout and such all you can do is have a little faith in the human race that they will do the right thing. We are all happy you made it out ok and get back on the road as soon as you can.
M