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Title: Ebay bar end mirrors, Ebay clip ons, and Ebay blinkers. A review. Pics!
Post by: aaronmact on January 08, 2014, 10:05:31 PM
OK, so some of you may have been on Chinabay before and have looked up some new parts for the gs500. Well Ive purchased some of the parts ( even though my pics arnt great) And Im going to try and do a little review/ over sight For you all to know what you can expect.  Pics are below

I guess the first thing Ill review are these ebay clip ons. The size you will need for the gs500 is the 37mm size. And yes they should come as a 7/8s size bar. For all the review I read on them they really arnt ad quality for the 45 dollars I paid for them. To install them you will either need to raise or lower the forks ( depending on how aggressive you want your stance). The 37mm doesn't quite seem like it will fit ( the ends my take a bit of prying with a screwdriver) but eventually it will. The hardest part about it all is getting them to tighten down once you have them in place since where they tight on the bike is hard to access if you go lower on the forks. You may also have some trouble with some of your cables/ brake lines since youve lowered the position. But all in all I felt they are worth the buy.

The second thing Ill review are these "Universal" headlight fork mounts.  These things are a pain in the but. 1. They come with a bunch of diff sizes so make sure you get the right one (Bigger appears to have been better). 2. If you buy the size that has the 37mm, the first think you need to do when you get them is go to the hardware store and buy a longer bolt and a nut to go with it for eachset, the 37 mm size doesnt wrap round the fork right and the hardware they supply comes no where close to what you need. I think I went with 1"1/2 bolt to make the gap and make it all fit. It takes a lot of aligning, I havent gotten to ride with them supporting the headlight yet but I cant complain for now.

The bar ends are that bad and I managed to score them for 12 bucks when i normally find them for 27. They are made of metal and are very very sturdy from what I can feel and alot higher quality than what I was expecting. The machine work is fairly decent on the majority of it. If you get the clip ons I showed above you wont be able to fit the bar ends into it. Youll prob have to take a knife and whittle down the rubber just a bit to get it to fit in properly. But these are what I was happiest with.

Last but not least these wonderful ebay blinkers.These blinkers are crap. I paid 8 bucks for a set of 4 ( shouldnt have expected better). But just holding these blinkers you feel like youre going to break them. They are pretty much made out of the same plastic as an easter egg. its a simple two wire system with a crappy bulb in it and 2 screws where everything is glued together. For some reason I was going for something sturdy, maybe even metal but not. Theyll prob brake if you drop them. The screw on the end is impossibly short and makes mounting places difficult. they couldnt support the headlight through the mounting bracket as I had planned. Theyre very low quality, but if your in a bind and dont mind em for the price then hey go for em.

IF you have any questions feel free to ask!



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Post by: Golly on January 08, 2014, 11:03:51 PM
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Post by: aaronmact on January 08, 2014, 11:10:40 PM
Forgive all the typos haha  :icon_eek:
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Post by: Lecktrico on January 15, 2014, 08:17:21 PM
I have bar end mirror too, but the Napoleons type... the goods: they look very Vintage, the bads: f#cking vibrations, going up 140km/h it's impossible to see.

More pics?

Good job!  :thumb:
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Post by: aaronmact on January 16, 2014, 12:29:31 PM
Theyre not the best pics in the world cause Im still fidling right now. I mainly take them so when I go home I can still think and twist ideas of it in my head. But here are some of everything after Ive installed the parts and lowered the front end. (Its still a work in progress, especially the rear end with r6 light). The reason theyre not on all the way is so I can take em off easier for now, but you get the general idea.

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Post by: aaronmact on January 16, 2014, 03:18:54 PM
And my new master cylinder came in! First glance is its pretty decent quality for what I paid, comes with the braided brake hose. The top Cylinder has a metal cap ( which surprised me), and there are a few screws/ bolts which need tighten before I ride.But Ill be sure to let you all know how it does!  :cheers:

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Post by: jacob92icu on January 16, 2014, 11:40:17 PM
Always wanted to do something with the master cylinder on my GS, but didnt trust the ebay ones one bit. Make sure you do everything carefully. You gunna do anything with the gauge cluster? Haha
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Post by: Janx101 on January 17, 2014, 12:29:20 AM
mmmmmm minty fresh tyres!! ... can still see the 'fun bags' on them!!

pretty flash looking brake cylinder setup too!! ... review on that when you get there!!

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Post by: makenzie71 on January 17, 2014, 04:59:42 AM
Quote from: Lecktrico on January 15, 2014, 08:17:21 PMthe bads: f#cking vibrations, going up 140km/h it's impossible to see.

You have to drill a tiny hole in the back of the mirror...like 1/8" or 3mm...and use a tiny alan key to pop the mirror glass out.  Once you get the glass out you can get to the screws holding the mirror body to the arm.  Take these screws out and reinstall them with loctite or a similar thread locker.
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Post by: makenzie71 on January 17, 2014, 05:01:37 AM
Quote from: aaronmact on January 16, 2014, 03:18:54 PM
And my new master cylinder came in! First glance is its pretty decent quality for what I paid, comes with the braided brake hose. The top Cylinder has a metal cap ( which surprised me), and there are a few screws/ bolts which need tighten before I ride.But Ill be sure to let you all know how it does!  :cheers:

You got a link to where you found that?
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Post by: aaronmact on January 17, 2014, 09:27:28 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Front-Right-Brake-Master-Cylinder-Grey-fits-7-8-Handlebars-/360790450021?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5400c95f65&vxp=mtr  This is the link where I got mine, They have more that are expensive but I have a bad habit of ballin on a budget.  :P I found typing in 7/8 front master cylinder yields the best results for the back and gives you tons of different options with color and style too. Also has set ups for the left if youre needing a hydraulic system for another bike. You can get a new right front master cylinder and left clutch system as a set for 35 bucks. Which is kinda a score in my book :)

Quotemmmmmm minty fresh tyres!! ... can still see the 'fun bags' on them!!
Yeah both front and rear only have 15 miles on them  :cheers: as does the entire bike since its been in my hands. :P. I had to pretty much redo the entire bike from the ground up this summer which is why i have no money haha

QuoteMake sure you do everything carefully. You gunna do anything with the gauge cluster? Haha
Yeah Im going to be real careful on how I do everything. If I didnt trust it though I wouldnt keep it on the bike. It also comes with the rear brake toggle switch on the bottom of the set up Which I was surprised about so thats a plus  :woohoo:  And as far as the tach cluster, Well its pretty busted as you can see. That happened like ten years ago I think.. least thats the last time this thing fully resembled a bike before I got my hands on it. Im hoping to either modify that one with a new mounting set up/ indicator leds or to just buy more wonderful ebay stuff and get a smaller aftermarket tach/ speedo and drop it down so its more nestled in with the headlight.
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Post by: aaronmact on January 17, 2014, 12:58:37 PM
My oh my have I got a review for you all.  :icon_rolleyes: Well where to begin. If any of you all buy this system theres a few things you should be aware of. With my master cylinder the actual lever was very loose and wobbly ( hopefully Ill have a video up soon) which led to alot of play in the lever which you can seem to get rid of. I may end up switching it out with the previous lever I had on my other master cylinder. Im also doing this because it seems like the new lever doesnt force enough fluid through as it should. Maybe I still have some bleeding to do. But it seemed like I had to pull the lever all the way back before they would engage. Im def going to look into this and see if I can find a solution. Also. When installing this. You have to use their banjo bolt to the master cylinder, but if you can USE YOUR ORIGINAL WASHERS. Theirs are big and bulkey and affect fluid flow even more.  Next, KEEP YOUR ORIGINAL BRAKE LIGHT RELAY. The one they provide is udder crap and has already broken on me/ fried. The switch now disengages  backwards if that makes sense. So swap out theirs for the one you have. Im not sure if its the relay its self, maybe reversed wiring on the relay on my part, or perhaps my r6 taillight drawing too much power but I think it blew my fuse. There was a loud pop and then smoke. Cause now Nothing comes on when the bike is on. So if the pic I post below is the fuse Or culprit I need to replace then please tell me.  Ill also be posting up some pics of the bike now after the mods ( even tho it still has a way to go so you can see)

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Post by: aaronmact on January 17, 2014, 01:21:32 PM
These are just a few pics of the bike with the mods,  showing you how low the front sits now, what the front looks like with all the mods,  what my riding stance is after the clip ons, and the rear blinkers plus r6 tail light. The videos are currently uploading to Youtube and I should have some clips of the blinkers and the lever problem here for you all shortly :)

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Post by: aaronmact on January 17, 2014, 01:53:14 PM
OK, so these are my videos for today of the wobble with the master cylinder and the video showing you all how the blinkers are. I blew my fuse right after I shot the blinker vid.  :technical:



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Post by: adidasguy on January 17, 2014, 02:15:12 PM
The play in the lever is due to the bolt being too small diameter for the lever or the hole in the lever is too large. Either way it is sloppy machining, unfortunately. If itis the bolt that is wrong, changing the lever won't help but worth trying a different lever.

One reason I go with expensive levers from highly rated companies is everything is machined to exacting tight tolerances. Not everyone can afford or justify the $85-$125 cost per lever for ASV, LSL or other brands.
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Post by: aaronmact on January 17, 2014, 02:19:35 PM
Im deff going to keep upgrading to better and more expensive parts when I have the money. But as of right now I left college to join the navy. So until then I dont really have much income and when I do it goes to pay off stupid loans -.- But I figured for 20 bucks its was worth a shot. They deff sell better quailty ones with diff levers and set ups for around fifty. But Im going to put up with the one I have for now.
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Post by: adidasguy on January 17, 2014, 02:44:04 PM
You might be able to swap bolts or shim it with a thin bushing to reduce the flopping.
For $20 not bad at all.

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Post by: aaronmact on January 17, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
Yeah I was thinking a small bushing or maybe even a washer to try and stop the wobbling
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Post by: radodrill on January 17, 2014, 11:06:10 PM
I see the turn signals are hyperflashing; you might want to wire in a resistor or replace the flasher relay with an LED compatible one.
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Post by: Badot on January 17, 2014, 11:28:58 PM
Just curious what your guys' thoughts are -- since a turn signal is supposed to be an attention getting device, wouldn't it be beneficial to make it as bright (within reason) and fast-flashing as legally possible?

IIRC 2 flashes per second is the max. Has anyone ever been pulled over for something higher though?
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Post by: jacob92icu on January 18, 2014, 01:48:33 AM
My turn signals blink super fast and they are integrated on my cbr, never had a problem! I think as long as you are using them the cops are happy lol
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Post by: aaronmact on January 18, 2014, 06:45:42 AM
Huh.. that just seems odd to me. My other blinkers went that fast too and neither of these blinkers are led. I thought it was just normal :icon_question:
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Post by: Alan_nc on January 18, 2014, 07:01:26 AM
I was able to pick up a set of the bar end mirrors for $10.00 shipped off Ebay (guy bought them and did not put them on).  Bought a set of the black levers for $18.00 shipped.  They go good with the black bar end mirrors.  The levers are adjustable for length of pull but I wish they would come even closer to the handle bars.  With gloves on it seems like the brake is a bit of a stretch.

Quality on the mirrors isn't great but they work fine.  Levers are as good as the original.
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Post by: aaronmact on January 19, 2014, 06:19:24 PM
Alright guys so a little up date. Ended up Swapping out the levers on that brake master cylinder and now it works perfect  :woohoo: Pressure is much better than my previous cylinder. Also all the play is now gone as the stock lever is a snug fit. Main problem I had was my lever struggled to fit at first but with a little persuasion it goes in smoothly. It also had a hard time making contact with the brake switch. But a few wraps with some electrical tape solved that no problem!

Also installed the ebay screw on led license plate lights. And the product is great. Wires are a little small but wow. The pictures do it no justice. That mixed with the R6 tail light ( which I finally got wired correctly) Someone would have to be blind to hit you. Especially at night. The leds in both are practically blinding and really help alert others to your presence on the road. I HIGHLY recommend them. Ill try and get videos up of them if you all would like.

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Post by: Janx101 on January 19, 2014, 06:39:04 PM
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Someone would have to be blind to hit you. Especially at night.

looks good Aaron!! .. but dont trust that the ultra bright tail lights will make you impervious to cager stupidity!!

.. its not so much their vision that causes the general dramas... but their attention level / distractions / general 'goober-ness' ..  :icon_rolleyes:

same as loud exhausts.. or hi vis clothing/vests .. or extra lighting anywhere.... or high dB horns..... they all improve your visibility/audibility/safety a bit .. but do nothing to help the cagers actually know what they doing in the first place!!

its been said that we should "ride like everyone is out there is trying to kill us" .. which is kinda right .. but ..

i prefer .. "ride like everyone around you DOESN'T CARE!! ... till afterwards!" ....them 'caring' after the fact isnt going to help us heal up any faster!! ..  :icon_rolleyes:

:) .. so sure .. be pleased with your lights! .. they do look good!!  :thumb: .. but when you are braking hard to avoid the dickhead that just stopped in front of you or because you nearly missed seeing the red light .. dont think... 'oh its ok.. that guy behind me will see my super bright stop lights and just stop' .. still look for your escape route! .. watch the fools in the mirror while you are stopped .. until they have stopped a safe distance away!...

sorry .. hope you know this already .. i just had a mini-rant wash over me!  ;)

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Post by: aaronmact on January 19, 2014, 06:42:04 PM
Hahaha Its all good I was busting out while reading it. You almost sound like a MSF instructor :P But yeah Im aware and thanks for all the advice! Just try to emphasize their brightness haha. Whats with the name change btw?
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Post by: Janx101 on January 19, 2014, 06:57:57 PM
name change?? ...  :confused: ... no name change!?

.. im not a MSF .. just a 'cranky ole bastard' sometimes... when i get warmed up then soon its all "when i were a lad we had to walk across 29 miles of broken glass covered in snow across the side of an erupting volcano.. just to get to the front gate!!"  ;)

of course i make my own errors riding and some of them contradict what i babble on to younger riders about...  :icon_rolleyes: :dunno_black: ..

.. just the perceived 'safety' thing cos of a bike improvement/mod .. when it relies on the awareness of a CAR driver?! ..  :nono:

really i'd rather ride at 3am in the rain in the middle of a whole heap of truck drivers all running late for their delivery timeslot!! .. rather than near a couple cars on a freeway on a lazy perfect summer day!! .. at least the truck drivers 'usually' have better situational awareness!! ..

.. though .. with the last few years of "got my truck licence last week" guys... it may be folly to trust them either!!

... blah de blah .. it were rainin acid and psychopathic octopuses outside our school most days!! .. and all we had to eat was 10 day old fish fillets!! .. blah de blah!!  ;) ;) ;)
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Post by: aaronmact on January 19, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
hahahahaha and yeah I TOTALLY understand. The car part, not necessarily the beating old and eating fish made of glass or whatever. But my bad I got you and the buddah confused  :dunno_black: Oh well! haha
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Post by: Janx101 on January 19, 2014, 07:09:39 PM
oh .. ok.. well... Buddha has been known to go off on a tangent also! .. he may be part of my "extended yankee but india/indian grumpy old bastard ranter family" ?

.. mind you he was on this forum for years and years before i landed!
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Post by: aaronmact on January 19, 2014, 07:12:05 PM
Eh, Ive always seen you to be more prominent on the forum in all honesty. Guess I never paid attention to the names :icon_rolleyes:
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Post by: Janx101 on January 19, 2014, 07:15:59 PM
ummm .. i babble on more... Buddha was very active when i joined a few years ago... maybe he is having a breather? .. he is the go to guy for carb/jetting bits though ..

im the go to guy for..... ummmm.... for....  :confused: ..... sometimes trying to clarify a confused explanation?! ... yeah that'll do!

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Post by: aaronmact on January 19, 2014, 07:17:24 PM
Works for me! haha :cheers:
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Post by: Joolstacho on January 20, 2014, 08:18:59 PM
Assume that you've put the clip-ons on that way because you prefer them pointing upwards rather than the usual downward slope?
(Swap 'em side to side will give a more normal naturally ergonomic slant downwards - though I haven't seen those actual clip-ons, - the angle varies).
Just a word of caution on aftermarket master cylinders. Hopefully yours work well, but you need the correct the bore and stroke, it can affect braking markedly because they differ in how much fluid is pushed down the line when you pull the lever, -it needs to be matched to the disc/calliper setup.
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Post by: aaronmact on January 20, 2014, 08:31:53 PM
Eh I just put em on that way cause they seem right side up with the way its machined. It also just felt more natural, still an aggressive stance but my wrist are still ok with it. Also Im not quite sure how Id match or measure that. Honestly what ever its doing is working great for me. I like the feel this master cylinder gives me. It feels a lot more firm and confident through the entire braking motion then my stock one.
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Post by: Joolstacho on January 21, 2014, 02:05:26 AM
Good job done then mate.