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Title: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 10, 2014, 07:56:32 PM
So I was cruising to work in some beautiful Arizona weather when I get laid out onto the street  :woohoo:

5 months and a surgery later I'm able to work on my bike. I'm not sure if it's worth the money/time, just sell as is or part it out.

Mechanically it is running fine, the carbs tend to make a "spitting" noise while warming up mostly that goes away. It has actually always done this since I bought it.. seems to just be a bit worst now but either way this isn't my main concern for being here.

Cosmetically is where I need to fix it up.

2007 GS 500F Blue/White (See picture attached)

To do this right I would need:
1. Side fairings
2. Front fairing/cowl
3. Left mirror
4. Exhaust (just scratched and dented so I could put this off)
5. Left side rear plastic (this is not too badly scratched)
6. Left side blinkers

My tank has a dent but I just planned on putting a sticker on it.

Plastics are of course outrageously priced. I briefly looked but couldn't find if there is somewhere to get just cheap plastics you could paint on your own?

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Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Soloratov on January 10, 2014, 08:17:12 PM
If you wanted, at least until you can source the parts, you can just strip it and ride it as an E version. Sounds like most of the front stuff is the issue, so really it wouldn't be too tough to leave it naked until then. There have been guys here that have done it, maybe they have some left over bits.
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: adidasguy on January 11, 2014, 01:10:04 AM
Go naked. Other than color, you can look like this. It will save you a lot of money to go naked.


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Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 11, 2014, 10:10:03 AM
That's a possibility, any idea where I could pick up similar headlight, blinkers and mirrors?
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: adidasguy on January 11, 2014, 11:26:06 AM
Blinkers are OEM so buy used ones or get any blinkers. They all mount the same.
I have plenty of extra headlight mounts. Then get a standard 7" round headlight.
Mirrors are just good old ebay buys for $25 or so. The chrome SV-650 mirrors look really nice. Maybe $85 or so for a pair.


Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 13, 2014, 12:29:51 PM
Ok cool, would any blinkers really work? Something like this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-Universal-Motorcycle-Motorbike-KTM-12-LED-Turn-Signal-Indicator-Light-Blinker-/281234571845?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AGS500F&hash=item417ae30245&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-Universal-Motorcycle-Motorbike-KTM-12-LED-Turn-Signal-Indicator-Light-Blinker-/281234571845?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AGS500F&hash=item417ae30245&vxp=mtr)

For the headlight, something like this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-7-Round-Halogen-Motorcycle-Bike-Headlight-Light-Lamp-Bulb-Diamond-Crystal-/141019353966?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20d568936e&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-7-Round-Halogen-Motorcycle-Bike-Headlight-Light-Lamp-Bulb-Diamond-Crystal-/141019353966?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20d568936e&vxp=mtr)
Would that do high beam as well?
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: kyled25 on January 13, 2014, 05:14:32 PM
Do you have all the broken pieces of plastic, or at least most of them? You can attempt to repair the broken fairings with acetone and extra pieces of ABS plastic (google or youtube how to do this). I would attempt this first, it's not very hard just time consuming and requires a lot of patience. It's the cheapest route I think, a quart of acetone is like 6 bucks and and ABS pieces/sheets can be bought cheap... I think I even have half a sheet I could send you for free.

There's nothing wrong with going naked, but any discerning buyer would know you have an f model that got into an accident. It will hurt your resale value (don't know if you care). I repaired plastic pieces from my f model when a friend crashed mine (still a work in progress). I was actually pretty impressed with the results considering cost of replacement vs. cost of doing the repair. Anyways, just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: adidasguy on January 13, 2014, 05:29:51 PM
Signals would work (might have to change your flasher relay for LEDs).
That headlight doesn't have a bucket or mount for it.

You need a bucket to hold that headlight or buy a complete unit like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cafe-Racer-headlight-7-Housing-Bobber-Motorcycle-Headlight-Universal-Custom-/190999829363?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c787a1b73&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Emgo-7-Universal-Chrome-Motorcycle-Headlight-w-H4-Bulb-66-64312-/291056225032?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c44d8b08&vxp=mtr

We do have extra fork mounts for a headlight in the Bike Cave if you need them. Not sure about a decent headlight bucket. You can buy complete headlights with the bucket. The fork mounts hold the headlight and front turn signals.

Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 15, 2014, 05:46:12 PM
Quote from: kyled25 on January 13, 2014, 05:14:32 PM
Do you have all the broken pieces of plastic, or at least most of them? You can attempt to repair the broken fairings with acetone and extra pieces of ABS plastic (google or youtube how to do this). I would attempt this first, it's not very hard just time consuming and requires a lot of patience. It's the cheapest route I think, a quart of acetone is like 6 bucks and and ABS pieces/sheets can be bought cheap... I think I even have half a sheet I could send you for free.

There's nothing wrong with going naked, but any discerning buyer would know you have an f model that got into an accident. It will hurt your resale value (don't know if you care). I repaired plastic pieces from my f model when a friend crashed mine (still a work in progress). I was actually pretty impressed with the results considering cost of replacement vs. cost of doing the repair. Anyways, just my 2 cents.
Honestly I don't think I have the patience to sit there and try to melt/mold the fairings back to life but that is a good idea, I really appreciate your offer on the ABS sheet but I'm thinking of going the naked route.


Quote from: adidasguy on January 13, 2014, 05:29:51 PM
Signals would work (might have to change your flasher relay for LEDs).
That headlight doesn't have a bucket or mount for it.

You need a bucket to hold that headlight or buy a complete unit like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cafe-Racer-headlight-7-Housing-Bobber-Motorcycle-Headlight-Universal-Custom-/190999829363?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c787a1b73&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Emgo-7-Universal-Chrome-Motorcycle-Headlight-w-H4-Bulb-66-64312-/291056225032?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c44d8b08&vxp=mtr

We do have extra fork mounts for a headlight in the Bike Cave if you need them. Not sure about a decent headlight bucket. You can buy complete headlights with the bucket. The fork mounts hold the headlight and front turn signals.
Ok cool. I think I'll look for non-LED signals in case you do need to change the relay... I have no problems with the stock ones. So if I bought a headlight with a bucket like the one you linked I would need the fork mount and the headlight mount, correct?
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: radodrill on January 15, 2014, 06:06:48 PM
Quote from: Reckoning on January 15, 2014, 05:46:12 PMOk cool. I think I'll look for non-LED signals in case you do need to change the relay... I have no problems with the stock ones. So if I bought a headlight with a bucket like the one you linked I would need the fork mount and the headlight mount, correct?

LED compatible turn signal relays are less than $10 and a direct swap.
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: adidasguy on January 15, 2014, 06:08:05 PM
A set of these in the bottom picture.
I have extras if you need some.
Then the front would look similar to this.
(http://www.gs500.net/gallery/data/2/DSCF0704a.JPG) (http://www.gs500.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/391/title/dscf0704a/cat/2)


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Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 18, 2014, 08:59:48 AM
Quote from: radodrill on January 15, 2014, 06:06:48 PM
Quote from: Reckoning on January 15, 2014, 05:46:12 PMOk cool. I think I'll look for non-LED signals in case you do need to change the relay... I have no problems with the stock ones. So if I bought a headlight with a bucket like the one you linked I would need the fork mount and the headlight mount, correct?

LED compatible turn signal relays are less than $10 and a direct swap.
Ah ok cool maybe I'll grab those then. Would you guys recommend them over stock?



Quote from: adidasguy on January 15, 2014, 06:08:05 PM
A set of these in the bottom picture.
I have extras if you need some.
Then the front would look similar to this.
(http://www.gs500.net/gallery/data/2/DSCF0704a.JPG) (http://www.gs500.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/391/title/dscf0704a/cat/2)
Ok cool I'll PM you about grabing a set!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Zane on January 18, 2014, 09:28:43 AM
I haven't heard anyone ask.  Have you check to make sure the frame isn't bent?  If the frame is toast, then parting out is the way to go.  Otherwise, I really like the look of the naked version.  That's the route to go.
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: radodrill on January 18, 2014, 12:42:01 PM
Quote from: Reckoning on January 18, 2014, 08:59:48 AM
Quote from: radodrill on January 15, 2014, 06:06:48 PM
Quote from: Reckoning on January 15, 2014, 05:46:12 PMOk cool. I think I'll look for non-LED signals in case you do need to change the relay... I have no problems with the stock ones. So if I bought a headlight with a bucket like the one you linked I would need the fork mount and the headlight mount, correct?

LED compatible turn signal relays are less than $10 and a direct swap.
Ah ok cool maybe I'll grab those then. Would you guys recommend them over stock?

They'll work with incandescent or LED turn signals and flash at the same rate regardless of load; so if someone wanted to put on OEM turn signals the flasher could remain the same ;)
The only "advantage" of the stock flasher is that when used with the stock turn signals it'll flash faster when a bulb is burned out.
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 20, 2014, 10:55:37 PM
adidasguy, I saw this headlight + bucket on another topic. This would work with the bracket you just shipped out, right?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AQUUYV4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: adidasguy on January 20, 2014, 11:24:07 PM
While 7" is better, that one will work.
You may have to reverse the aluminum bracket. They have an outward bend so swap left for right for a smaller headlight.
They were picked up today (Post office did business pick-ups today!)
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 21, 2014, 09:44:37 AM
Since you recommend 7" I just went ahead and picked up this guy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Emgo-7-Universal-Chrome-Motorcycle-Headlight-w-H4-Bulb-66-64312-/291056225032?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c44d8b08&vxp=mtr

Thanks for the update, excited to get this thing mounted   :cheers:
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: adidasguy on January 21, 2014, 10:06:18 AM
That should be fine. Ermgo makes lots of motorcycle parts.
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 21, 2014, 06:45:22 PM
I picked up these mirrors after my crash, tried to throw them on tonight and they don't fit. The ad said they fit an 07 gs 500f though. Hmmm... Any ideas?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271124508326?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: adidasguy on January 21, 2014, 08:45:32 PM
Your handlebar mirror mounts are the same as all GS500's so you should be OK.

Pictures?

How did they not fit?

Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 21, 2014, 09:03:55 PM
The thread on the mirror is too large



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Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: adidasguy on January 21, 2014, 09:18:40 PM
Weird. Obviously they are wrong in what they fit on.
All GS500's have the same threads: M10 x 1.25 thread (I just measured it)
I say return them for that reason.
But they say it is a 10mm thread so I wonder what is going on.
As a test, get a 10x1.25 bolt and see if it fits on your bars and/or matches the mirrors.
I can't think of what else on the bike is an m10x1.25 that you could take off and use to compare.
Did you check both clutch perch and brake?

Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 21, 2014, 09:32:38 PM
The Ebay ad says "Fitment: 10mm, Clockwise Thread"
Yes I checked both. I'll look into it later and figure out which one isn't 10mm. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something painfully obvious.
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: BockinBboy on January 22, 2014, 01:30:30 PM
The steering stem bolt is 10mm thread... Unscrew that and try it in your mirror mount.  Torque spec on steering stem bolt is 35-55 Nm I believe.  Randomly discovered that when trying out different spots to mount my phone.

- Bboy
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 22, 2014, 01:38:44 PM
Sweet, thank you!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 26, 2014, 07:29:40 PM
Started the F to E conversion today, man those top triple clamp bolts are SOO TIGHT... almost impossible to get them off by myself. I need to pick up a couple bolts that will fit my new headlight tomorrow but so far I'm loving the look without the fairings.
Title: Re: Not sure which direction to take after crash
Post by: Reckoning on January 27, 2014, 07:07:48 PM
The headlight bracket doesn't fit a 10mm bolt and the headlight I have/the others I'm seeing online are all 10mm >:( anyone else run into this issue while converting to an E?