Traded in the 'ol Corolla for something more befitting of my driving tastes (and my new salary! :D)
It's actually not red, though the pic may lead you to believe it is. It's actually "hot lava" which is definitely burnt orange.
(http://i.imgur.com/RML6qFS.jpg)
I really like those, but I would have gone with the Subaru version instead, personally. Congrats!
I know what you mean about the color, my GS has the same issue. This is the paint all cured and under natural light (overcast).
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/51/gs500newpaint1.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/1fgs500newpaint1j)
This is the paint rather fresh and under fluorescent light.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/842/gastankcleared2.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/negastankcleared2j)
The color is "Tangerine Metallic" over "Galaxy Grey", which is a mix of black and silver. It's a very dark burnt orange in person.
But I like that it never looks the same. I paid enough for it, it better be unique!
The Subaru has some type of fuel injection thing that causes the top-end to need to be reworked at 60-80k miles or so. I don't understand it enough to adequately explain it but I've heard it mentioned a few times. Plus, I went to the dealer that I got the Corolla from, which wasn't a Subaru dealer. They gave me $15k for my Corolla and the best I could come up with online was only 10k trade-in. I'd say I got a fair deal, considering I only paid $15.9k for the Corolla.
a brick red Toyota err scion Eh? not bad at all my friend. not bad at all. ( toy makes scion soooo) please tell me it is NOT an automatic
Quote from: Kijona on April 03, 2014, 12:38:40 AM
Plus, I went to the dealer that I got the Corolla from, which wasn't a Subaru dealer. They gave me $15k for my Corolla and the best I could come up with online was only 10k trade-in. I'd say I got a fair deal, considering I only paid $15.9k for the Corolla.
That's legit.
My sister had her Ford Escape blow the engine not too long ago and it wasn't even fully paid off, we brought it back to the dealership where she got it and they bought the loan as well as gave her a few grand in trade-in value on it, which is WAY more than we would have got junking it.
Dealerships like having reputation, they'll do what they can to keep customers.
Looks nice, they're good looking cars. I personally would've chosen the Subie, but that's just me. My dad wants a BRZ but eh, I don't think I'd actually want to own one if it was my only car. More of a station wagon guy myself.
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on April 03, 2014, 01:24:50 AM
a brick red Toyota err scion Eh? not bad at all my friend. not bad at all. ( toy makes scion soooo) please tell me it is NOT an automatic
C'mon Yama. No self-respecting car/motorcycle enthusiast or gearhead like me would ever buy a
sports car with a slushbox. :icon_rolleyes:
I was initially going to buy a white one but I honestly fell in love with this color after test driving it.
It's not really red at all, it's just the color of the pic. This is a much more accurate representation of it:
(http://dudesphotography.smugmug.com/Cars/Mikes-FR-S-on-19-Staggered/i-LqKRPqP/1/XL/20130715_082033-XL.jpg)
But then again, it kinda changes colors depending on the light. Bright, direct sunlight makes it look VERY orange. Shaded or indirect light makes it look dark orange and almost red.
You know what? In that picture I am reminded that I've seen one in that color in real life. It looks great!
There's one just like that not too far from me that I've passed a few times, it does look way better in real life.
That photo is almost too bright from what I can remember.
First pic is too red, second is too orange...
Quote from: Kijona on April 03, 2014, 12:38:40 AM
The Subaru has some type of fuel injection thing that causes the top-end to need to be reworked at 60-80k miles or so. I don't understand it enough to adequately explain it but I've heard it mentioned a few times.
The FT-86 engine is literally identical to the BRZ engine. Both use the Toyota D4S dual injection system--direct injection all the time, with the addition of port injection at full throttle. The top end needing to be reworked is common of GDI engines. Gas gets injected straight into the open intake valve, which leaves a buildup on the back of the intake valves over time.
Nice car, by the way. I'm only a little bit jealous.
Looks like a girl's car to me. Get a viper and I'll bow to your greatness.
Quote from: Kijona on April 03, 2014, 09:57:45 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on April 03, 2014, 01:24:50 AM
a brick red Toyota err scion Eh? not bad at all my friend. not bad at all. ( toy makes scion soooo) please tell me it is NOT an automatic
C'mon Yama. No self-respecting car/motorcycle enthusiast or gearhead like me would ever buy a sports car with a slushbox. :icon_rolleyes:
I was initially going to buy a white one but I honestly fell in love with this color after test driving it.
It's not really red at all, it's just the color of the pic. This is a much more accurate representation of it:
(http://dudesphotography.smugmug.com/Cars/Mikes-FR-S-on-19-Staggered/i-LqKRPqP/1/XL/20130715_082033-XL.jpg)
But then again, it kinda changes colors depending on the light. Bright, direct sunlight makes it look VERY orange. Shaded or indirect light makes it look dark orange and almost red.
Awesome. thought I might have to hur6t ya with my one good foot lol. yes im a fan of manual transmissions. have a t45 set aside for a crown vic, or a towncar or a grand marquis. if I ever get back on the road.
Aaron
I am disappointed I couldn't fish kijona out... :dunno_black:
mmm purrty :)
Quote from: Watcher on April 03, 2014, 05:48:35 AM
Quote from: Kijona on April 03, 2014, 12:38:40 AM
Plus, I went to the dealer that I got the Corolla from, which wasn't a Subaru dealer. They gave me $15k for my Corolla and the best I could come up with online was only 10k trade-in. I'd say I got a fair deal, considering I only paid $15.9k for the Corolla.
That's legit.
My sister had her Ford Escape blow the engine not too long ago and it wasn't even fully paid off, we brought it back to the dealership where she got it and they bought the loan as well as gave her a few grand in trade-in value on it, which is WAY more than we would have got junking it.
Dealerships like having reputation, they'll do what they can to keep customers.
Or maybe, just maybe, they worked the whole 'good' deal back into her new payment book?
Quote from: Kijona on April 02, 2014, 11:30:53 PM
Traded in the 'ol Corolla for something more befitting of my driving tastes (and my new salary! :D)
It's actually not red, though the pic may lead you to believe it is. It's actually "hot lava" which is definitely burnt orange.
(http://i.imgur.com/RML6qFS.jpg)
Wheel base looks about right to be a corolla underneath... Is it ?
Quote from: ohgood on April 04, 2014, 01:29:22 PMWheel base looks about right to be a corolla underneath... Is it ?
The FT-86 chassis has nothing at all in common with the Corolla chassis. The Corolla's wheelbase is 5 inches longer.
Quote from: RossLH on April 04, 2014, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: ohgood on April 04, 2014, 01:29:22 PMWheel base looks about right to be a corolla underneath... Is it ?
The FT-86 chassis has nothing at all in common with the Corolla chassis. The Corolla's wheelbase is 5 inches longer.
Its also front wheel drive where as FT-86 is rear wheel drive... two totally different breeds of cars.
Quote from: ohgood on April 04, 2014, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Watcher on April 03, 2014, 05:48:35 AM
Quote from: Kijona on April 03, 2014, 12:38:40 AM
Plus, I went to the dealer that I got the Corolla from, which wasn't a Subaru dealer. They gave me $15k for my Corolla and the best I could come up with online was only 10k trade-in. I'd say I got a fair deal, considering I only paid $15.9k for the Corolla.
That's legit.
My sister had her Ford Escape blow the engine not too long ago and it wasn't even fully paid off, we brought it back to the dealership where she got it and they bought the loan as well as gave her a few grand in trade-in value on it, which is WAY more than we would have got junking it.
Dealerships like having reputation, they'll do what they can to keep customers.
Or maybe, just maybe, they worked the whole 'good' deal back into her new payment book?
Nope. They kept raising their offer on the trade-in until the car she wanted was in her price bracket. Final price on the car in the paperwork reflected the trade in offer they gave us.
Quote from: john on April 04, 2014, 08:55:48 AM
I am disappointed I couldn't grab kijonas fish ... :dunno_black:
what kijona wished was said.
A whole page and we're still left guessing what it is!
:dunno_black:
Errr.... GeeP ... It's a Toyota 86/GT86/Scion .... Depending on where your buy it from in the world.... The Toyota half of the Toyota/Subaru tech and design sharing from recent years!!
:thumb:
It's a Scion FR-S (Front engine Rear-wheel-drive Sportscar I think...) There are distinct differences between all 3 of the so-called "Toybarus", mostly cosmetic and one or two mechanical. I know the Subaru BRZ supposedly has a stiffer ride.
What's this about fish? Also, I'd buy a Lotus Exige before I bought a Viper.
I think I might've gotten some bad gas or mislabeled gas. Stopped in a QuikTrip (very well respected gas station chain here) and filled up. Got back on the road and it had considerably less "punch" and the throttle response was down. I can't say with 100% certainty that what I put in my car was 93 octane like it calls for and not 91. It'll run fine with 91 but it retards the timing to compensate. So I HOPE that's what it is.
Sorry I've been out of the loop guys...new job is ridiculous. Fun... But ridiculous. :icon_idea:
Quote from: Kijona on April 13, 2014, 06:37:17 AM
It's a Scion FR-S (Front engine Rear-wheel-drive Sportscar I think...) There are distinct differences between all 3 of the so-called "Toybarus", mostly cosmetic and one or two mechanical. I know the Subaru BRZ supposedly has a stiffer ride.
As far as I can tell the only differences between the badged models are exterior cosmetics, interior trim levels, and a slight handling difference due to different rear suspension setups. Reportedly the FR-S tends to oversteer while the BRZ tends to understeer.
From what I can gather the "FRZ" is a Subaru at heart with a Toyota on top. Subaru engineered the performance side while Toyota handled the style and design.
But personally I like the looks of the Subaru better. The wing on the back, the little side-vent things, the design of the front grille and fog-lights...
The Scion offered Red and Orange colors are nice, but as far as basics go I think the Subaru chosen Black and Grey have much more character, and it's hard to argue with the Subaru Blue!
Hopefully it's a Toyota engine not Subaru so you don't have the lovely Subaru timing belt and head gasket every 60000 miles
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Subaru timing belt intervals are 105K miles for EJ series motors. New age EJ DOHC motors rarely experience head gasket trouble, and the EJ series itself is being superseded.
Quote from: Rallyfan on April 15, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
Subaru timing belt intervals are 105K miles for EJ series motors. New age EJ DOHC motors rarely experience head gasket trouble, and the EJ series itself is being superseded.
Even more specifically, the 2.5s from 95-99 have the HG problem worst, the 00-04 have it not quite as badly. I've never heard of it being an issue with the 2.0 or 2.2. The has been, in fact, the trend of people swapping down to the 2.2 for reliability.
Had I my druthers, I'd have a BRZ with a FR-S interior.
We Subaru drivers of the world still refuse to fully acknowledge its existence without the addition of driven front wheels.
Sexy ride, Kijona. Now put the money pretty away for a while and stack those new job pennies. ;)
Quote from: cWj on April 15, 2014, 09:20:29 PMWe Subaru drivers of the world still refuse to fully acknowledge its existence without the addition of driven front wheels.
Subaru has never been solely AWD. Subaru has made RWD cars in the past and continues to make FWD cars to this day.
We Subaru drivers know our facts. Join the club.
Quote from: RossLH on April 17, 2014, 10:16:10 AM
Quote from: cWj on April 15, 2014, 09:20:29 PMWe Subaru drivers of the world still refuse to fully acknowledge its existence without the addition of driven front wheels.
Subaru has never been solely AWD. Subaru has made RWD cars in the past and continues to make FWD cars to this day. We Subaru drivers know our facts. Join the club.
(sigh)
Facts?
Fact: at no point was the assertion made that Subaru has made only AWD vehicles
Fact: it was a lighthearted statement about a nice car on a forum for motorcycles
Suggestion: have a tea, a stretch and relax.
The Subaru engine used in this Scion FR-S does not use a timing belt but instead a timing chain. Not to say that it is maintenance free by any means but it should last a whole lot longer than the timing belt like you're talking about. It's a good thing too, because I would hate to have to try to replace the timing belt on this engine. I'm dreading the day when I have to change the spark plugs.
Aside from that, let's not argue amongst ourselves about otherwise trivial matters.
Quote from: Kijona on April 19, 2014, 10:11:22 PM
let's not argue amongst ourselves about otherwise trivial matters.
:icon_eek: .. Well THATS gonna make it a whole quieter on the board!! ;)
Quote from: Kijona on April 19, 2014, 10:11:22 PM
Aside from that, let's not argue amongst ourselves about otherwise trivial matters.
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I see facetiousness doesn't carry well through text. LOL
Quote from: Kijona on April 20, 2014, 10:43:47 AM
I see facetiousness doesn't carry well through text. LOL
Use the facetious tags next time. Noob.
Quote from: john on April 20, 2014, 11:14:03 AM
Quote from: Kijona on April 20, 2014, 10:43:47 AM
I see facetiousness doesn't carry well through text. LOL
Use the facetious tags next time. Noob.
The sarcasm tags are easier to use, despite what John recommends.
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I've never experienced that timing belt thing. Everybody I've ever talked to about it seems to have at least one uncle that had a timing belt go for 300,000. I'm glad they went to a chain.
Argument? What argument?
Enjoy the car. Have a track day and regale us if you can.
Man ... That uncle must be sick of the timing belt then! Bahahahha
I DIYed an EJ timing belt, cam seals, water pump, and crank seal -- yet I won't DIY a GS valve adjustment. Go figure.
The FA timing chain has not been around long enough for reliability data to come in. I heard the cam love issue is resolved too.
EDIT: "lobe." The cam lobe issue... Heh... Sorry.
Minor update, debadged the car (removed just the FR-S logo on the back). I have some TRD badges on the way (yeah yeah, but it'll look good). Along with splash-guards to keep road crap off the sides of my car, nice LED (made me think of Patrick when I ordered them) bulbs for reverse, tag, trunk, and dome.
Also, I have a Perrin cat-back exhaust on the way as well. I'll post pics once I get it installed.
pics won't do for the exhaust Kijona, we need vids!
Quote from: Watevaman on May 22, 2014, 12:57:13 AM
pics won't do for the exhaust Kijona, we need vids!
WELL FINE DEN!
We like noise ;)
As requested...a video
Since I was being a stubborn-ass and didn't wanna wait until I had a floor jack available, I used a set of jack stands I borrowed from my neighbor, and the freaking scissor jack from the boot. Took FOREVER to get this thing installed. Mainly because I could barely get under the car. Also because I had a hell of a time trying to get the alignment right.
... Sounds like my GS :flipoff:
- Bboy
DANG me likey :bowdown: . loads better than a fart can. that's gotta sound awesome getting on the interstate. a long pull upwards.
I still think my ram truck could smoke it. :flipoff:
maybe
So when is the showdown happening then?! ;)
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With the new exhaust (adds around 10whp), I'm getting up to 60 in just under 6 seconds. Stock is about 6.3sec. My best was 6.28 stock and with new exhaust I managed 5.91 without flat shifting.
Quote from: john on May 25, 2014, 08:14:24 AM
I still think my ram truck could smoke it. :flipoff:
Found this today for you Johnny!! :icon_twisted:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bYqPhJIgoZo/UVSCQ3TZHEI/AAAAAAAAAQY/3un_OXkzd0w/s640/Dodge+Logo+Uterus.jpg)
I went ahead and changed the oil at 3K miles, figured it would do it some good (and it did). MUCH quieter now, and seems to rev more easily.
Also installed one of these:
(http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71235&d=1395280516)
Little valve that you open to drain the oil. Probably the simplest but most effective time saver I've ever seen!