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Title: what the heck is this called????
Post by: TexMex on May 22, 2014, 12:12:58 PM
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Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: TexMex on May 22, 2014, 12:16:00 PM
damn how do i add pics?
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: BockinBboy on May 22, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
Gotta host the pic on a site like photobucket, or attach it here if its not too big

- Bboy
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: TexMex on May 22, 2014, 12:21:52 PM
ok well here's a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKyYrECWzsQ

the thing that spins it's gold i just wanna know what it's called.  if you answer the questions from the video that's great too but I already know the answers, thanks!
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: rexpepper651 on May 22, 2014, 12:27:18 PM
signal generator. donno the question tho. work pc has no sound. sorry
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: BockinBboy on May 22, 2014, 12:29:38 PM
Thingy that spins, is gold, and is on right side of the engine?... umm, called a few names I guess - timing pickup or timing rotor, or just 'rotor', signal generator - probably other similar names too


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Is that what you mean?

- Bboy
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: Watcher on May 22, 2014, 12:36:43 PM
I would call it a distributor, but I guess that just shows I'm more experienced with cars, not bikes.

Rotor is the simple answer, I suppose.
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: Nocluejoe on May 22, 2014, 01:57:28 PM
and what does it do?
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: rexpepper651 on May 22, 2014, 01:59:45 PM
spins in a circle and tells sends signal to the coils i do believe which sends spark to the plugs.  im going off what a distributer  does on a car tho lol
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: cbrfxr67 on May 22, 2014, 02:12:22 PM
addy would have told you what it does, how it did it, when suzi patented it, the multiple rpm physic variable quadrant elasticity at wot and even more,......God bless him up there,...
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: dennisgb on May 22, 2014, 02:32:58 PM
Not sure about Suzuki, but most of these are Hall Effect (magnetic) pick up coils. Each time the metal rotor passes one of the probes on the pick up coils it sends a signal to the coils to fire the spark plug. The firing is 180 degrees on this one. The extra length on the rotor is to give a broad time for the spark to complete the fuel burn. The leading edge is set to the timing degrees.
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: gsJack on May 22, 2014, 03:38:24 PM
The 2 pickup coils on the 89-02 signal generators are triggered by the single wide lug on the rotor to fire cylinders 180* apart.  The 04-09 rotors have a single wide lug plus 5 smaller lugs sending smaller signals to provide rpm information along with the firing signal to the igniter unit to fire the cylinders 180* apart and also send rpm info to the electric tachometer.

That's about as best this ageing ME can explain it but there are plenty of bright young EE's around here that can probably explain it in detail.  As I recall from Addy's posts on the subject it is necessary to retain the signal generator and rotor that came with the bike to match up with the wiring harness and igniter unit it has when switching engines from one type to the other as in this case.
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: Paulcet on May 22, 2014, 06:44:37 PM
^^^ That's it pretty much. 

A distributor actually sends coil voltage to the spark plugs.  In the case of our bikes, the pick-ups send a signal to the ignition control unit.  The control unit causes the individual coil to 'fire' the spark plugs.
Title: Re: what the heck is this called????
Post by: Blueknyt on May 22, 2014, 07:45:28 PM
use the signal generator that comes with the bike and harness, not the engine.  the igniter is diff between certin years, hopefully the smoke didnt escape from igniter box.