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Title: Damaged generator?
Post by: doose812 on July 29, 2014, 09:32:58 AM
This is a follow up from my "engine knock round 2" thread where my replies were getting buried. I apologize if that is taboo!

Backstory and question --  I pulled off the starter clutch/generator assembly and it fell apart as it popped off. The bolts are entirely rounded or broken. Attached is a picture of the back of the generator. New bolts do thread in tightly but the damage to the back worries me a bit.

Is this salvageable?  Previous thread also shoes one of the magnets is also cracked on the other side. http://i.imgur.com/9emo9Sd.jpg

Thanks a million for your time!

Jake

Edit: add cracked/split magnet picture. http://m.imgur.com/b8aLTFc
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: robfriedenberger on July 29, 2014, 11:22:27 AM
I'd drill and tap new holes, don't risk using those holes again.
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: bmf on July 29, 2014, 01:05:34 PM
Agreed, although with the cracked magnets on top of the damaged holes , I would suggest a new or used rotor.
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: prmas on July 30, 2014, 12:51:53 AM
That is only the insulation/sealant cracked/missing. Provided the resistances check out OK I would not replace it yet. With the bolts repaired you will have much less vibration and shock load in the area. It may be OK.

Macka
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: Blairbee on July 30, 2014, 01:25:48 AM
being a internal part of your engine for the amount of damage there is from a machinist point of view replace it.
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: bmf on July 31, 2014, 07:10:04 AM
Look on the left of the picture , the magnet is cracked at its base. I would be uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: The Buddha on July 31, 2014, 10:43:21 AM
Quote from: bmf on July 31, 2014, 07:10:04 AM
Look on the left of the picture , the magnet is cracked at its base. I would be uncomfortable.

It may be a glue or other line ... if its a crack, no, dont use that magnet.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: prmas on July 31, 2014, 05:45:36 PM
Thanks bmf. I agree that if that line is indeed a crack in the magnet it should not be used. Perhaps I did not look close enough but I did think that it might be just the edge of the insulation.  :bowdown:

Macka
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: doose812 on August 10, 2014, 09:51:56 AM
Sorry for the long delay in response, I appreciate the replies! It is in fact a hairline crack the entire distance of the one magnet that's missing the epoxy. I also picked up a few 12.9 - m14 bolts from the local hardware store to check out the threading and one of the bolts threads in at a 15 degree angle. :) What is also not visible in the picture is the magnet with the crack is also missing a small piece on the back (2mm x 2mm). It looks like something hit it to chip it off; I imagine the rotor is now just an expensive piece of scrap...

I have been looking for a used replacement part here locally (Minneapolis) with no luck. Any recommendations for online part stores you have had success with? Best deal I can find is roughly ~215 new (31402-01D00 ROTOR on partzilla). Secondarily, besides a new crankcase gasket and starter clutch bolts - anything else I should look into while the crankcase cover is off?

Thanks for all the help, it's much appreciated.
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: doose812 on August 12, 2014, 10:49:57 AM
Anyone? Sorry for being 'that guy,' Just looking to avoid any costly mistakes and hoping I can ride it this year before our Minnesota fall/winter!

All the best,

Jake
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: The_Paragon on August 12, 2014, 11:17:10 AM
Quote from: doose812 on August 10, 2014, 09:51:56 AM
I have been looking for a used replacement part here locally (Minneapolis) with no luck. Any recommendations for online part stores you have had success with? Best deal I can find is roughly ~215 new (31402-01D00 ROTOR on partzilla). Secondarily, besides a new crankcase gasket and starter clutch bolts - anything else I should look into while the crankcase cover is off?

Thanks for all the help, it's much appreciated.

I just yacked a 2006 engine.. I'm sure the rotor is good on it. I'm located in Medford, WI. I'm sure we could work up some sort of deal. PM me if interested.
Title: Re: Damaged generator?
Post by: robfriedenberger on August 13, 2014, 04:37:55 AM
I've always got good deals at pinwallcycles on ebay or if your near ohio