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Title: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: slazl on September 15, 2014, 05:54:00 AM
First time posting so here we go!

My bike is an 05 GS500F and I have noticed my rear tire pressure has started to drop quite fast.
It would be fine for me to pump it up and ride it to a local garage but obviously it is something i would prefer to get fixed.

I have contacted my local garage and there advice is for me to take it in and he will put a tube into the tire.
My worry is that he is just doing this to try keep the cost down for me (I am a good customer, mates rates kinda guy) and in doing so is going to make it hard when it comes to replacing the rear tire.

I am just looking for advice from you guys, Is it going to make things more difficult later? What would you recommend?

Thanks in advance!

Will.
Title: Re: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: Big Rich on September 15, 2014, 06:13:42 AM
The mechanic wants to put an inner tube in it? While possible, I wouldn't recommend it. The valve stem is different for an inner tube, so your current stem would need to be removed. And inner tubes cause tires to run hotter - not to dangerous levels, but hotter than necessary. Besides, your current tire needs to come off to install an inner tube anyway, so why not just skip the inner tube and mount a new tire and valve stem?
Title: Re: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: slazl on September 15, 2014, 06:49:55 AM
Yes, as i said though, i think he is just trying to keep the price down for me.

I will discuss with him Replacing the tire then, i just didn't know if this was standard procedure for this type of thing.

Thanks!
Title: Re: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: twocool on September 15, 2014, 08:57:24 AM
You need to determine the cause of the leak.

Is it a nail or screw through the tire?

Is the tire leaking at the bead along the rim?

If it is the first...nail or screw...it is possible to fix with a plug..but this is not recommended for motorcycles...I've done plenty of times with cars, and yes on motorcycle...and it worked fine for me...but still most say safety  in motorcycle means no repair of tires with plug....

If it is leaking at the rime...sometimes you just have to remove the tire, clean up the bead area of the rime, and tire, and re mount...I've had to do this several times on cars..

Auto stores offer a product to help seal the bead...

Worst case, well most costly...is new tire...only way to be 100% safe....if old tire is worn out or nearly worn out just get new tire..

I would not install tube in tubeless tire / rim...because of different valve, and other possible problems


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Quote from: slazl on September 15, 2014, 05:54:00 AM
First time posting so here we go!

My bike is an 05 GS500F and I have noticed my rear tire pressure has started to drop quite fast.
It would be fine for me to pump it up and ride it to a local garage but obviously it is something i would prefer to get fixed.

I have contacted my local garage and there advice is for me to take it in and he will put a tube into the tire.
My worry is that he is just doing this to try keep the cost down for me (I am a good customer, mates rates kinda guy) and in doing so is going to make it hard when it comes to replacing the rear tire.

I am just looking for advice from you guys, Is it going to make things more difficult later? What would you recommend?

Thanks in advance!

Will.
Title: Re: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: The Buddha on September 15, 2014, 09:08:35 AM
You cant put a tube in a low profile tire - it has to be 80 or higher to be safely able to tube it.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: The_Paragon on September 15, 2014, 12:33:16 PM
 :nono:

I shake my head every time something comes up.. There are TWO peices of rubber that you balance on between you and the pavement.

Scrounge up $120 and REPLACE it.

Title: Re: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: Atesz792 on September 16, 2014, 08:55:39 AM
Love the saying 'when in doubt, consult the owner's manual', or the tire specification in this case. The factory will put in the description something like TL/TT, which would mean that the tire is safe to use with or without a tube, and if it doesn't look too bad itself, I think you could just go ahead and get it done. Some (tire guys) say you should replace those valves every tire change anyway.
If the tire looks real bad, and/or it isn't manufacturer approved for use with a tube, then I'd replace it.
What kinda tire is it?
Title: Re: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: slazl on September 17, 2014, 06:07:31 AM
I had a good conversation with the mechanic (it is a dedicated motorbike workshop) and he assured me the tube was the better option. Looking at the state of the rim on the inside it was obvious why it was leaking, but he said the tube would work well and it was a common job for him to do.

He also said when it comes to replacing the tire he replaces the valve every change so that wouldn't be a problem.

I know i have gone against most of your advice so if something happens, you can all say i told you so i suppose.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: scott_01_xr400 on September 17, 2014, 07:02:22 AM
so the rim is bad ?    If that is the case, I think you have more dangerous problems than putting a tube into the tire.  If the tire has a bad spot, before plugging, I would put a patch on the inside of the tire.  they make patches for that kind of application.   If it is leaking because the wheel is bad, I would be looking for a new wheel.
Title: Re: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: ShowBizWolf on September 17, 2014, 07:31:19 AM
Yeah I tend to agree... a replacement rim and tire seems to be the right and safe way to go here.  Based on what has been said so far, the tube seems like a band-aid over a bigger problem  :dunno_black:
Title: Re: GS Rear wheel Puncture... Advice?
Post by: twocool on September 17, 2014, 02:24:45 PM
Wow...many red warning flags here!

A rim which is designed for tubeless, is designed to have the valve stem installed into a hole in the rim......a rim designed for a tube type tire has the valve as part of the tube and must go through a hole in the rim....different hole design!

If you have a bad rim....YOU HAVE A BAD RIM....if you put in a tube...you still have a bad rim!

The statement that he changes the valve with every tire makes no sense at all regarding tube type, because the valve is part of the tube!

Some tire are not designed for tubes, and should not have tube installed...some ate no tube, some a tube only and some go both ways....

But since you don't follow the advise, which you asked for...you're on your own on this one!


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Quote from: slazl on September 17, 2014, 06:07:31 AM
I had a good conversation with the mechanic (it is a dedicated motorbike workshop) and he assured me the tube was the better option. Looking at the state of the rim on the inside it was obvious why it was leaking, but he said the tube would work well and it was a common job for him to do.

He also said when it comes to replacing the tire he replaces the valve every change so that wouldn't be a problem.

I know i have gone against most of your advice so if something happens, you can all say i told you so i suppose.

Thanks again!