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Title: Ignition advancer
Post by: FirstGS500E on December 21, 2014, 02:39:54 PM
What's up guys! I was checking out the mods section on this site and I am curious about the ignition advancer. Site says Vance and hines used to make it but stopped production(pt # V21926). I'd like to know if anyone had one and what your thoughts are? I'm a machinist and think I might make one myself if it's worthwhile. I made this plate since the PO scratched it up and cracked it. Thought it'd be cool to also put a handmade functional part in my bike. What makes the aftermarket one better?

Thanks,

-E

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Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: sledge on December 21, 2014, 02:49:50 PM
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=42656.0
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: FirstGS500E on December 21, 2014, 03:27:03 PM
Thanks sledge! I think I may give it a shot.
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: eco.usa on December 21, 2014, 04:32:28 PM
What type of advancer do you envision??  Mechanical?  (I would assume since machinist work is involved.) Centrifugal is what I need for my breaker point conversion (mentioned elsewhere here).  My connection to the crank could be stronger and my advancer was designed for cam drive which rotates 50% engine speed.  The GS 500 drives by the crank shaft at double that.
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: J_Walker on December 21, 2014, 04:53:52 PM
Question.....


would you be willing to make more of those plates?? and if so, how much would it cost for one?
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Elmojo on December 21, 2014, 06:00:03 PM
Same here, that side plate is beautiful!
Just so happens I need one too, win win! :)
If you are willing to make a few, put me on the list.
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: FirstGS500E on December 22, 2014, 01:36:20 PM
Thanks guys! I'll look into the possible cost. I plan to have mine black anodized when some other aluminum parts are sent off at the shop. Then CNC an old school Suzuki (S)  into it. I'll let ya know when I check into it.
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Elmojo on December 22, 2014, 08:33:43 PM
That sounds sweet!
Personally, I'll take it plain, anodized, with or without the S, whatever!
As long as it doesn't come with custom gouges like my current cover(s), it'll be a winner in my book.  :up:
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: GSRiderDad on December 22, 2014, 09:03:49 PM
Ditto on the plate. I'd love one.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: ringading57 on December 25, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
I'd love one too
Title: Ignition advancer
Post by: Rallyfan on December 25, 2014, 02:00:11 PM
I'm interested! I need a new cover!
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: GatorTrae on December 25, 2014, 03:19:50 PM
sounds like the op found a new market for custom parts.  a group order is in order. haha.

Merry Christmas to all.
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Ron888 on December 25, 2014, 09:34:06 PM
Quote from: Elmojo on December 22, 2014, 08:33:43 PM
That sounds sweet!
Personally, I'll take it plain, anodized, with or without the S, whatever!
As long as it doesn't come with custom gouges like my current cover(s), it'll be a winner in my book.  :up:


I'm conflicted over replacing my custom-gouged cover.It''s like a badge- it shows i've been trying haha.
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Ron888 on December 25, 2014, 10:02:49 PM
Here is a simple DIY method:

http://www.gstwin.com/diy_timing_advance.htm
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Suzuki Stevo on December 26, 2014, 10:25:14 AM
Quote from: Ron888 on December 25, 2014, 10:02:49 PM
Here is a simple DIY method:

http://www.gstwin.com/diy_timing_advance.htm

I did that to my KZ1000, I did the mod to retard it though. In the mid 80's when they took a buttload of lead out of the fuel my KZ pinged and rattled when opened up on the drool that was labeled Premium.
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Elmojo on December 26, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
That would be ok if I was the one who gouged them!
I've never dropped a bike lightly enough to scrape up the covers but not much else in the 15 or so yrs I've been riding.
If I drop one, it's at speed, and engine covers are the least of my worries.  :angel: :police: :icon_eek:

Ok, WHY do the quotes not work right on this forum?!
I have to go back and edit each post to fix the code. It's not even using the right tags!
screw it, this time it stays.


Quote from: Ron888 on December 25, 2014, 11:34:06 PM (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=68351.msg822489#msg822489)<blockquote>Quote from: Elmojo on December 22, 2014, 10:33:43 PM (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=68351.msg822275#msg822275)<blockquote>That sounds sweet!
Personally, I'll take it plain, anodized, with or without the S, whatever!
As long as it doesn't come with custom gouges like my current cover(s), it'll be a winner in my book.  :up:
</blockquote>

I'm conflicted over replacing my custom-gouged cover.It''s like a badge- it shows i've been trying haha.
</blockquote>
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: cWj on December 26, 2014, 06:48:27 PM
The ignition cover and fork brace are kind of popular DIY projects around here. Always good to have another option when you need one ;-) .
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Elmojo on December 26, 2014, 07:16:00 PM
The ignition cover is a DIY option?!
Do tell... (links please!)
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Ron888 on December 26, 2014, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: Elmojo on December 26, 2014, 07:16:00 PM
The ignition cover is a DIY option?!
Do tell... (links please!)

I'm not sure he intended to include the cover as DIY.I too am interested?

On this subject,i just thought of something- why cant we make a lower profile ,more modern looking one in high temp thermoplastic?
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: mennobike on December 27, 2014, 01:41:01 AM
Side plate +1!!!
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Ron888 on December 27, 2014, 04:58:26 AM
Quote from: Ron888 on December 25, 2014, 10:02:49 PM
Here is a simple DIY method:

http://www.gstwin.com/diy_timing_advance.htm


Just a minor warning- if you use this method please remember it changes the timing mark point read point.REMEMBER THIS if you need to check the valvegear timing
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Rallyfan on December 27, 2014, 08:40:28 AM

Quote from: Ron888 on December 26, 2014, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: Elmojo on December 26, 2014, 07:16:00 PM
The ignition cover is a DIY option?!
Do tell... (links please!)

I'm not sure he intended to include the cover as DIY.I too am interested?

On this subject,i just thought of something- why cant we make a lower profile ,more modern looking one in high temp thermoplastic?

I've covered mine with a vinyl overlay in a carbon fibre pattern. Hides the scratches!
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: Elmojo on December 27, 2014, 11:56:41 AM
That's a good idea. I actually have some high quality 3M 'carbon look' vinyl around here....somewhere.
Title: Re: Ignition advancer
Post by: cWj on December 28, 2014, 11:47:30 PM
Quote from: Ron888 on December 26, 2014, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: Elmojo on December 26, 2014, 07:16:00 PM
The ignition cover is a DIY option?!
Do tell... (links please!)

I'm not sure he intended to include the cover as DIY.I too am interested?

On this subject,i just thought of something- why cant we make a lower profile ,more modern looking one in high temp thermoplastic?

I was referring to both, actually - for those with access to aluminum stock and a CNC, which a few members do. Chuck81 does them ( http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=63036.msg742845#msg742845 ).

I seem to remember a thread about the measurements needed to make one's own in some thread or another (you'll probably have better luck using "side cover" instead of "plate", I'd wager).

As for thermoplastic, I'd much rather have my ignition protected by something a bit more resilient, and I would think it couldn't be much more low profile than it is. Feel free to prove that assumption wrong, however.  :technical:

As stated, always good to have someone else with the ability/know-how. As they tend to go, one person will have them/getting ready to cook up a new batch while somebody else is out/has higher priorities at a given moment.