http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/56259/i/bell-revolver-evo-templar-helmet
Sizes are a bit limited, but seems like a good deal on a flip-up with drop-down sunshades.
'Tis the season before the season!
Disclaimer - This is not posted as a modular or safety sticker debate, just a note about a sale on a helmet **for those interested in said helmet or a helmet of such type**.
I don't know about you, but flip-up helmets scare me. If you go face first into the ground you'll lose your jaw because there won't be a flip-up helmet that can take the kind of force needed to protect you when you smash your face into the ground.
May as well own a skid lid. Also, obligatory you get what you pay for.
Who says there isn't a modular that can take the force necessary to save your jaw?
Mechanism or no, there's more there when it's down, so I see no reasonable need to claim this is no more useful than a quarter-helmet.
But this was intended more for those that understand the differences/risks who would be interested in a modular by a major manufacturer with a 5 year warranty available for 80 bucks.
I've never had any issues with a modular helmets.
They're a tad more heavy than full size helmets, and I wouldn't buy black in the hot S-Florida, but if you're mainly riding in colder regions, it wouldn't matter much.
Also, a black helmet is less visible at night.
Aside from that, I like the design!
Good price for a nice looking helmet. The trade-off with modulars is weight and wind noise, which is what led me to go ditch them for standard full-face. But if you like it, go for it.
I would have no reservations about the safety of a modular helmet myself.
My 2 cents...
From the pics in the link the Bell is more a flip face helmet.. the whole front lifts or lowers as a unit and 'most' flips have strong positive lock points/bars built into the chin bar area...
My understanding of Modular is like this example
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shark-evoline-3-st-arona-helmet
The chin bar can be moved up and away independent of the visor section. .. and is legal to ride with that way!
In Australia anyway
The flip face type are not legal to ride with while the face section is up! ...
The modulars are 'supposed' to have a stronger section around the jaw area of the shell to better withstand distortion no matter where the chin bar is...
As long as either type is from a reputable company (and I'm pretty sure Bell is one! ;) ) & has the relevant countrys safety sticker then they should be a good helmet?!
Government pencil/rules geeks tend to be fairly serious about rules/certifications nowadays dont they?
I'm not saying open/skully/full/flip/modular don't have different protective qualities between them! .. of course they do!! ... but each person to their own style! ....
Hell, I'd have a TRON Legacy electronic activated lid if such a thing were possible! ... and the bike too come to think of it! Lol
Quote from: Janx101 on January 27, 2015, 02:23:46 AM
My 2 cents...
From the pics in the link the Bell is more a flip face helmet.. the whole front lifts or lowers as a unit and 'most' flips have strong positive lock points/bars built into the chin bar area...
My understanding of Modular is like this example
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shark-evoline-3-st-arona-helmet
The chin bar can be moved up and away independent of the visor section. .. and is legal to ride with that way!
In Australia anyway
The flip face type are not legal to ride with while the face section is up! ...
The modulars are 'supposed' to have a stronger section around the jaw area of the shell to better withstand distortion no matter where the chin bar is...
As long as either type is from a reputable company (and I'm pretty sure Bell is one! ;) ) & has the relevant countrys safety sticker then they should be a good helmet?!
Government pencil/rules geeks tend to be fairly serious about rules/certifications nowadays dont they?
I'm not saying open/skully/full/flip/modular don't have different protective qualities between them! .. of course they do!! ... but each person to their own style! ....
Hell, I'd have a TRON Legacy electronic activated lid if such a thing were possible! ... and the bike too come to think of it! Lol
DOT ratings over here in America aren't worth the sticker they're printed on. Skid lids are often "DOT rated". Anything short of a SNELL rated helmet is likely garbage. For everyone who says I'm a troll about motorcycle helmets here is fmvss 218 (http://www.bikersrights.com/nhtsa/fmvss218.html) so you can fill yourself in on DOT rating (and how bad it is). Further you don't (http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/the-danger-of-flip-up-helmets.htm) need (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_helmet#Modular_or_.22flip-up.22) to (http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/threads/47757/) look far to see that flip-up style helmets are incredibly dangerous, and DOT doesn't require certification of the chin bar. If you want to risk your life, that's your problem. I wouldn't be caught dead with a modular helmet.
opinions vary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snell_Memorial_Foundation#Controversy
Quote from: cWj on January 27, 2015, 11:39:38 AM
And the validity of Snell is now being called into question.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snell_Memorial_Foundation#Controversy
The fact Snell tests anything at all puts it miles ahead of DOT, even if its not the best.
DOT helmets are safe enough for most city speeds upto 45MPH.
Snell are more recommended for highway speeds or up.
Even amongst DOT rated helmets there are many differences in quality. Most DOT rated helmets exceed the DOT rating.
Some, if tested, would pass Snell ratings, but they don't have a Snell sticker on it, because of extra fees they'd have to pay.
So just because the Snell logo is not on the helmet, doesn't mean you got a bad helmet.
A 3/4 helmet is always less safe than a full face helmet, with or without Snell logo.
Quote from: MeeLee on January 27, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
DOT helmets are safe enough for most city speeds upto 45MPH.
Snell are more recommended for highway speeds or up.
Even amongst DOT rated helmets there are many differences in quality. Most DOT rated helmets exceed the DOT rating.
Some, if tested, would pass Snell ratings, but they don't have a Snell sticker on it, because of extra fees they'd have to pay.
So just because the Snell logo is not on the helmet, doesn't mean you got a bad helmet.
A 3/4 helmet is always less safe than a full face helmet, with or without Snell logo.
The argument I was making was simply this helmet is DOT certified and DOT doesn't require the most important part - the chin bar, to be tested. He asked if it's a good deal. I claimed its a bad deal because these helmets are unsafe already and spending bottom dollar on a budget model is even worse.
Your noggin, your problem. But when the difference between $80 and $300 is the difference between a mild headache and you being a vegetable, I'm willing to spend more.
Quote from: Dr.McNinja on January 27, 2015, 05:49:11 PM
[He asked if it's a good deal. I claimed its a bad deal because these helmets are unsafe already and spending bottom dollar on a budget model is even worse.
Now I see the problem. I wasn't asking whether it is a good deal; merely a posting about a 50% off sale on a helmet for those interested in such type.
That is all.
LOL, I didn't even look at the price!