What's up guys! My 93 E has now got about 8k on it (got it w 4k). The chain is not in the best shape so I'm going to replace it. Maybe my front sprocket as well. I don't believe the PO maintained the chain, or bike, very well at all. And of course give the whole thing a good cleaning and checking. (Winter riding has dirtied her up quite a bit!) I will probably order from motorcycle superstore because they have good price on the helmet comm I want. What I'd like to know is, what is a good chain/front sprocket combo that has the best quality meshed with a decent price?
Will probably stick with the stock 16T sprocket unless overwhelming input talks me into making a change.
Thanks for your advice!
-E
I got mine from D2moto, with the promo code for 15% off. I also ordered brakes.
Quote from: J_Walker on February 13, 2015, 04:31:01 PM
I got mine from D2moto, with the promo code for 15% off. I also ordered brakes.
took the words right out of my mouth. discount code is d2m2008.
Thanks, I'll check it out! Although, I'm not sure what brand chain and sprocket to order. That's the info I'm really interested in.
Change the chain, I'd recommend to change the sprocket as well.
Might as well make it a 17t front when you do.
I wouldn't go to 17t it's already gut less enough... I ordered my chain and sprockets a week ago from sprocketcenter.com
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On sprocket center it's 110 for everything
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Hi all , I put new sprockets on with new chain all at the same time , oil chain alot = long life and less adjustments , kind regards rg500gamma
It makes sense to change out the front sprocket when you install a new chain. They break in together and wear out together...changing one without changing the other may make things run rough.
Rear sprocket takes way longer miles to wear out...so don't replace unless it shows the typical signs of being worn out.
Use standard sized sprockets unless you have a damned good reason to change...Don't try to fix what's not broken!
Cookie
Quote from: rg500gamma on February 14, 2015, 01:09:41 AM
Hi all , I put new sprockets on with new chain all at the same time , oil chain alot = long life and less adjustments , kind regards rg500gamma
Grease the spline.......anyone?......anyone?
:D
Quote from: sledge on February 14, 2015, 11:03:37 AM
Grease the spline.......anyone?......anyone?
:D
Wut?(http://home.comcast.net/~stykers/nosplines.jpg) (http://gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/18510/normal_WornSprocket.jpg)
Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on February 14, 2015, 11:06:22 AM
Quote from: sledge on February 14, 2015, 11:03:37 AM
Grease the spline.......anyone?......anyone?
:D
Wut?
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all joking aside. is it normal for the front sprocket to have a little back and forth play between the keeper, and the shaft. [that direction]? my new one does, dunno why, and can't test the old one, because it's pretty freaking warn. lol
Quote from: J_Walker on February 14, 2015, 02:24:06 PMall joking aside. is it normal for the front sprocket to have a little back and forth play between the keeper, and the shaft. [that direction]? my new one does, dunno why, and can't test the old one, because it's pretty freaking warn. lol
IIRC my '07 even when new floated a little bit.
Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on February 14, 2015, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 14, 2015, 02:24:06 PMall joking aside. is it normal for the front sprocket to have a little back and forth play between the keeper, and the shaft. [that direction]? my new one does, dunno why, and can't test the old one, because it's pretty freaking warn. lol
IIRC my '07 even when new floated a little bit.
alright, seems to be made that way then, probably for swingarm flexing/twisting.
That bike looks like it was pulled out of the ocean
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Snow country bike with salted roads..... or beachside burb maybe... either way previously poor maintenance?
So, what's with the "520" and "530" numbers on sprockets? Trying to narrow down my search to get the proper 16T sprocket. Also, I will be doing this myself and prefer not to buy special tools for the chain replacement. Which type of chain is my best bet? That's info I'm looking for.
Thanks All!
-E
The 520 or 530 is the chain size...
(http://www.cyclechaos.com/images/thumb/9/95/Chain_dims.jpg/400px-Chain_dims.jpg)
GS500 use 520 for chain and for sprockets
Cookie
Quote from: FirstGS500E on February 15, 2015, 02:09:11 PM
So, what's with the "520" and "530" numbers on sprockets? Trying to narrow down my search to get the proper 16T sprocket. Also, I will be doing this myself and prefer not to buy special tools for the chain replacement. Which type of chain is my best bet? That's info I'm looking for.
Thanks All!
-E
D.I.D. vx2
520 x 110 links...this is excellent chain for GS500...
Cookie
Quote from: FirstGS500E on February 15, 2015, 02:09:11 PM
So, what's with the "520" and "530" numbers on sprockets? Trying to narrow down my search to get the proper 16T sprocket. Also, I will be doing this myself and prefer not to buy special tools for the chain replacement. Which type of chain is my best bet? That's info I'm looking for.
Thanks All!
-E
Thanks twocool! Does that type of chain require special tool? Also, there's a lot of choices sprockets, any recommendation? I've never replaced chain/sprocket before so if any tools are needed I'd like to go ahead and order them as well.
Thanks again
-E
That particular D.I.D. chain comes with a "clip type" master link...
You'll have to cut off the old chain, with a grinder, dremel tool etc...
You can install the new chain with the clip type link just using a pliers...
You can buy an optional rivet type master link...but this requires a special chain tool.
Some may argue the safety of the clip type link...probably safe for 500cc motorcycle...questionable for those 80 HP and up bikes...
I've used both rivet type and clip type without issue...I did apply aircraft safety wire to the clip type link..."just to be sure"...
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Front sprocket..
"JT" brand is widely available and seems to be good quality....I have this...
Sunstar is OEM...also good..
Quote from: FirstGS500E on February 15, 2015, 02:46:39 PM
Thanks twocool! Does that type of chain require special tool? Also, there's a lot of choices sprockets, any recommendation? I've never replaced chain/sprocket before so if any tools are needed I'd like to go ahead and order them as well.
Thanks again
-E
(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p607/bradisb-rad/2ce56be49ada0621695132eaa31a3d09.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw0udWDBem4
Video of chain install with "cave man tools"
Cookie
I don't see any safety issues with the clip, as the pins stay static (don't rotate) in comparison to the clip, chance of wear on the clip is almost non-existent.
MR. Lee
Again I agree with you!
But only to a point...when you get into the high HP motorcycles, there are some weird twists or other side forces on the chain, and clips HAVE come undone...
Under 50 HP, I can't see a problem....I may change to a rivet type anyway, if I get around to it, but the clip is working fine for me so far, but with the aviation safety wire, for good luck.
Cookie
Quote from: MeeLee on February 15, 2015, 05:16:05 PM
I don't see any safety issues with the clip, as the pins stay static (don't rotate) in comparison to the clip, chance of wear on the clip is almost non-existent.
Thanks again!!
I went with these:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/18225/i/sunstar-520-front-countershaft-sprocket
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/42856/i/did-520vx2-x-ring-chain
I hope they are sufficient
-E
Quote from: twocool on February 15, 2015, 03:35:04 PM
(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p607/bradisb-rad/2ce56be49ada0621695132eaa31a3d09.jpg)
Dare I say that safety wire job is... two cool...
Really though, thats pretty damn neat!
I just picked up a new DID standard o-ring from Denniskirk.com. Was $69, with a clip type master link. I think it should be OK
In regards to durability.. people do put 520's on their Liter sport bikes with a clip master link.
I have no idea why they trust that, or how that little chain deals with 160+ hp's, but they do..
:cookoo:
Cos its lighterer and spins on the sprockets fasterer! :wink:
I've used clip links on dirtbikes with no drama, used/seen clip links on small road bikes with no drama. . Have friends who did have dramas here and there, and with poorly executed rivet links too!
Every time I use a clip link though it's gotta be a real stiff click! Or it gets binned, I have always carried spare complete links and extra plates n clips in my little bike kit... sure it's an additional cost but not that much $..
Only ever had to replace the clip bit once while on the road.. and that's cos I thought it was just good enough when I put it back on there!
Bugger the touch screen!
With a big power bike I would think it over somewhat more though
Most of the problems I've heard about those cheaper chains, on smaller bikes (sub 500cc), is mostly that they stretch faster. The stock chain of my Honda 250cc was much tougher than the $30 aftermarket racing chain with clip i replaced it with....
A thirty buck chain didn't last? Go figure eh!?
My DID chain ran me about $100. Got the 520VX2 x 110 in gold from motorcycle superstore. Also ordered a new Sunstar 520 front countershaft 16T sprocket, $18 on sale. Package came today with my helmet upgrades! A Cardo Scalarider Q3 wireless comm system, chin curtain and new pin lock fogshield for my HJC helmet. Set up the comm and can't wait to get on the bike!! Too bad it's only 7 degrees here in Cbus Ohio. I think I'll be rolling the bike into my living room to clean it up, replace chain/sprocket and remove the old purple decals. So my little apartment will look like a shop for a while, I guess.
Thanks for all your input guys! I'll post some pics of super clean, tuned up bike after completion
-E
Cool....
last year, I installed the same chain and sprocket as you. Love 'em...
Temperatures here in NJ is a "balmy" 14F...after several days in the negatives....Hmmmm
Cookie
Quote from: FirstGS500E on February 20, 2015, 02:49:35 PM
My DID chain ran me about $100. Got the 520VX2 x 110 in gold from motorcycle superstore. Also ordered a new Sunstar 520 front countershaft 16T sprocket, $18 on sale. Package came today with my helmet upgrades! A Cardo Scalarider Q3 wireless comm system, chin curtain and new pin lock fogshield for my HJC helmet. Set up the comm and can't wait to get on the bike!! Too bad it's only 7 degrees here in Cbus Ohio. I think I'll be rolling the bike into my living room to clean it up, replace chain/sprocket and remove the old purple decals. So my little apartment will look like a shop for a while, I guess.
Thanks for all your input guys! I'll post some pics of super clean, tuned up bike after completion
-E
It's highly recommended that you replace the front sprocket also! As others have said- a worn sprocket will wear out the chain quicker
Replace the rear sprocket too if it's worn.That's unlikely though- they tend to last ages.
I always buy DID VX2 chain and sunstar front sprockets.Both are cheap but great quality for the price.
Quote from: twocool on February 15, 2015, 03:33:59 PM
That particular D.I.D. chain comes with a "clip type" master link...
You'll have to cut off the old chain, with a grinder, dremel tool etc...
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I would recommend a chain breaker tool.
It can even press the pins baxk in the links, in case you want to reuse the chain.
Quote from: Ron888 on February 21, 2015, 10:14:08 PM
It's highly recommended that you replace the front sprocket also! As others have said- a worn sprocket will wear out the chain quicker
Replace the rear sprocket too if it's worn.That's unlikely though- they tend to last ages.
I always buy DID VX2 chain and sunstar front sprockets.Both are cheap but great quality for the price.
:thumb: This is very true.
With a new chain on a worn sprocket only one sprocket tooth at a time is doing the main bit of pulling on the chain links as opposed to multiple teeth pulling equally on the chain. The chain will only last a fraction of the time a new chain with a new sprocket would. I always replace sprockets with chains, at least the drive sprocket. Its a smart investment, seeing as chains are usually the most expensive part. Sprockets are relatively cheap.
This is wildly evident on bicycles, a new chain on a worn rear gear set (smallest, so think: similar to drive sprocket on motorcycle). The new chain will actually skip over the rear cog set as you pedal, and its pretty likely to break a chain. I made that novice mistake while racing mtn bikes in college. Thought Id throw a new chain on for a race and ended up breaking it twice during the race. The part that hurt most was destroying a $60 bicycle chain and still needing to replace my rear cog set and crank chain rings.. If you think motorcycle stuff is spendy.. look up the price of a Sram XO chain, chainrings, and cogset!
I doubt a motorcycle chain would break from a worn sprocket, but I could see it being stretched and worn faster that needed.