So I was just wondering what all is done in a service at the bike shop. In Australia its around $250-$300 a service. I take good care of my bike. oil replaced every 1500km. Just changed over the spark plugs. Air and oil filters. Bearings(although mine are fine, I've just hit 9000 KM). what else is done. Also. Which kind of Oil is everyone using out there?
cheers
As far as the maintenance they perform in shops in Australia, I can't say with certainty, as I don't live there. I would assume they follow the maintenance schedule out of the manual for the bike, depending on bike mileage and last recorded service.
As for oil, I personally use 10w-40 synthetic. I prefer it to conventional because it maintains integrity longer and is more resistant to making sludge. Honestly, as long as you use the proper weight, change it regularly and avoid oils with energy conserving additives, any oil within those parameters will serve you just as well.
They should change your break fluids and pads. Change your oil, check your sprocketsand chain for wear, rre balencedyour tires, teat your battery, and check your rectifier for proper voltage.
What they do is this:
They take money out of your wallet, and put it in theirs!
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Quote from: syntax_error on February 25, 2015, 07:33:13 PM
They should change your break fluids and pads. Change your oil, check your sprocketsand chain for wear, rre balencedyour tires, teat your battery, and check your rectifier for proper voltage.
Hi all , motul 300v 10w40 racing oil , awesome color green , keeps engine clean , have not had to change any shims , have 12,000 miles , motul 300v 10w40 speaks for itself , good day to all , rg500gamma
Big fan of Motul oils myself :thumb:
4lts of Motul 300v full synth runs to about £60-65 in UK, (that's about 100 of your Bucks). 4lts of Motul 500 semi synth comes in around £18-22 (or $35)
Is the 300v worth it??...........not in a GS5 its not, least not to me :D
Hi all , I know motul 300v 10w40 is worth it BIG TIME in a gs500f , people that think different are only saying so because they cannot spend the money , if people got the motul 300v 10w40 for free , tell me they would want to use something else , once again my valves tell so , and camshaft lobes as well , I say good day rg500gamma
At $300 per service, it would be cheaper to do NO service at all..just put the money in the bank...by the time the bike craps out, you'll have enough money to buy a NEW bike!
My bike is past 45,000 miles...I've done 92 "services" myself...92 x 300 = $27,600...coulda bought 6 bikes for that money!
Learn how to service your bike yourself and pocket the money....
For the couple of items which may be too involved for an "amateur" find a mechanic who work out of his own garage...around here, dealerships have a shop rate of about $100 per hour....independent mechanics will work on my bike for $25 per hour.
just sayin'
Cookie
Quote from: Kiwiinoz on February 25, 2015, 06:57:40 AM
So I was just wondering what all is done in a service at the bike shop. In Australia its around $250-$300 a service. I take good care of my bike. oil replaced every 1500km. Just changed over the spark plugs. Air and oil filters. Bearings(although mine are fine, I've just hit 9000 KM). what else is done. Also. Which kind of Oil is everyone using out there?
cheers
Twocool's spot on here. It's an easy bike to work on. And if you do it yourself, you can guarantee that the valve check HAS been done on schedule - and not just charged for! Oils? a clunky, under-stressed air-cooled donk...just shoved a brand name cheapie oil in there and you'll be fine.
Are you making the claim that with this fancy oil, your valves will NEVER wear and NEVER need shim change? Hmmmm... :bs:
At over 45,000 miles, I've done 13 oil changes....with an extra $65 per change....I would have my wallet $850 lighter....(actually more like $1000, since I use $4 a qt oil)...
With the recent cheap gas here in USA, that $1000 "saved" on oil, means I can buy enough gas to ride another 30,000 miles.
Yes, I do check my valves, and occasionally need to switch a shim....so what? You must check the valves anyway, so once your in that deep, a switch of shim is easy..
My bike got to 45,000 miles WITHOUT ANY ISSUES....with plain old conventional $4 oil....the bike runs and looks like new....I expect another 45,000 miles...on conventional oil....
Tell me again what I would get for the extra $2000 for fancy oil????
Usually people with money are smart enough to not waste their money.
Just sayin
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Quote from: rg500gamma on February 25, 2015, 11:13:09 PM
Hi all , I know motul 300v 10w40 is worth it BIG TIME in a gs500f , people that think different are only saying so because they cannot spend the money , if people got the motul 300v 10w40 for free , tell me they would want to use something else , once again my valves tell so , and camshaft lobes as well , I say good day rg500gamma
My 02 GS which I bought with about 4k miles on it back in 03 went all the way to 100k miles on the Rotella T 15W-40 type oils and still had 140 psi compression in both cylinders when checked last spring.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=67148.0
My 97 GS bought new on which I set valves at Suzuki specs one exhaust valve was down to a min 215 shim at 80k miles when it was totalled. When the 02 was showing the same wear pattern I began setting exhaust valves at the wider spec at around 30k miles and they have 260 and 245 exhaust shims at 100k miles.
If your concerned about piston/ring life consider engine oil type but if your concerned about valve wear consider exhaust valve clearance first.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/GSvalvelogs_zps55f27f5e.jpg
By the way, I ran Mobil 1 full synthetic for about 60k miles in the 97 before changing to the Rotella T type oils.
Hi all , motul 300v 10w40 oil (wet clutch) , no valve wear at all in 12,000 miles , good enough reason for me to keep on using it , I like when people tell me I am wasting my money , and nobody really knows what I am paying $$$ for it ??? only people giving uneducated quotes of what they see on-line or in some other stores / motorcycle shops , so keep your uneducated guess at what you might think what I am "wasting my money on ".
Hi all , I am saying b.s. to conventional oil vrs. fully synthetic , if conventional oil was better , why was fully synthetic manufactured ??? I rest my case ...... and a message to " twocool" you do not have a clue what I get the oil for $$$ the only way you might know is if you worked for motul so think again before you guess again at what you might think what " I am wasting my money on " I say good day
Oooooooooooooooooh, 'es got is knickers in a knot! Nice....
Synth and semi synth has many advantages over mineral, no one is disputing that. The question is are those advantages of any benefit in the GS5 and is the increased cost justifiable.
My opinion is a resounding NO!!
BUT........If the machine in question wasn't a 35 year old, air cooled, carb fed dinosaur with massive internal clearances and instead was a state of the art high performance high reving, fuel injected, multi-valved/cammed/cylinder liquid cooled piece of race bred exotica I would have a different opinion
As mentioned I use a Motul semi-synth and guess what.....I have had no issues either. I also mentioned it costs about a third of the full synth.
Why should I be paying three times as much to get the same thing?
Cheers Sledge , o.k. your using semi-synthetic . its just I am in california , summer time is 100 + degrees & stop -n- go traffic plus I go to bullhead city 114 degrees hot so for me its 300v 10w40
Dude,
relax!..
If you are getting your "super miracle oil" for free...then great..use the free oil...duh!
For us mere mortals, that oil is of no benefit to a GS500 and a needless expense.
Tell me about valve wear when you get to 100,000 miles....
Dr. Jack going 100,000 ( with still 260 shims) then 80,000 on Rotella @ $3.25 a qt is good enough for me.
I've been using Valvoline MC oil at $3.98 qt....without a single issue at 45,000 miles!
Be careful to not confuse engineering with marketing.
Buyer beware.
There's a sucker born every minute.
It's a free country so do what you want.
And other such quotes
Just sayin' :whisper:
Cookie
Quote from: rg500gamma on February 26, 2015, 09:36:39 PM
Hi all , motul 300v 10w40 oil (wet clutch) , no valve wear at all in 12,000 miles , good enough reason for me to keep on using it , I like when people tell me I am wasting my money , and nobody really knows what I am paying $$$ for it ??? only people giving uneducated quotes of what they see on-line or in some other stores / motorcycle shops , so keep your uneducated guess at what you might think what I am "wasting my money on ".
Cheers for the help guys. I'm pretty mechanical minded. I was just double checking there's nothing they can do that i cant. I've given it all a overhaul myself. I dont see how they can justify such a price for a service. I went with Motul 5100 10w40.
This brings me to the next question. This plastic/rubber windscreen mount has fallen out. Im not to worried atm as im going to change it for a black one shortly,. But where would i get a new screw set from? the old ones are pretty low quality. Im looking for aftermarket? would standard M5 windscreen kits work/fit? See pics attached.
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Hi all , message to "twocool " yes I will post-up information on next say 4000 miles on valves and every valve check for now on using motul 300v 10w40 , I do not know anyone else with a gs500 using it , hey " twocool " take care have a great weekend , kind regards drew
Quote from: sledge on February 27, 2015, 01:35:04 AM
Synth and semi synth has many advantages over mineral, no one is disputing that. The question is are those advantages of any benefit in the GS5 and is the increased cost justifiable.
My opinion is a resounding NO!!
BUT........If the machine in question wasn't a 35 year old, air cooled, carb fed dinosaur with massive internal clearances and instead was a state of the art high performance high reving, fuel injected, multi-valved/cammed/cylinder liquid cooled piece of race bred exotica I would have a different opinion
As mentioned I use a Motul semi-synth and guess what.....I have had no issues either. I also mentioned it costs about a third of the full synth.
Why should I be paying three times as much to get the same thing?
Quote from: rg500gamma on March 13, 2015, 09:33:57 PM
Quote from: sledge on February 27, 2015, 01:35:04 AM
Synth and semi synth has many advantages over mineral, no one is disputing that. The question is are those advantages of any benefit in the GS5 and is the increased cost justifiable.
My opinion is a resounding NO!!
BUT........If the machine in question wasn't a 35 year old, air cooled, carb fed dinosaur with massive internal clearances and instead was a state of the art high performance high reving, fuel injected, multi-valved/cammed/cylinder liquid cooled piece of race bred exotica I would have a different opinion
As mentioned I use a Motul semi-synth and guess what.....I have had no issues either. I also mentioned it costs about a third of the full synth.
Why should I be paying three times as much to get the same thing?
yes semi-synthetic great oil as well :thumb: