Hi folks,
Been wanting to install some Xenons in my stock GS 500 2003 after I gave it a lick of paint, but am a little unsure of the best options.
I came across this HID conversion kit for bi xenons and would love to hear your thoughts on installation. Still can't work out the difference between single bi xenons and dual bi xenons though.
Here's the site http://www.hidkitsxenonlights.com/suzuki-gs500-xenon-kits-lights-conversions-headlights-bulbs/
I have a Haynes manual but no experience installing this stuff.
I took a screenshot of the dual xenon with a relay. Worth getting? They have a 'slim' ballast too for more money, hoping that's unnecessary.
(http://i.imgur.com/0qBl3IQ.jpg)
Thanks!
Once you lift your tank and see the space available, you'll appreciate the slimmer ballast.
:)
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Appreciate as in it's easier to install or appreciate as in the fat one won't even fit? I figured they wouldn't sell if it wouldn't fit, right?
And any advice on the Dual bi-Xenons as opposed to Single bi-xenons? I read up on the types, but this I had not seen.
Cheers!
Don't make the assumption about the balast fitting or not based on them selling.
this is what I bought for my F. It's great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-3200LM-Cree-H4-9003-HB2-LED-Headlight-Conversion-Kit-Bulb-Car-Motorcycle-H-L-/151408887113 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-3200LM-Cree-H4-9003-HB2-LED-Headlight-Conversion-Kit-Bulb-Car-Motorcycle-H-L-/151408887113)
Quote from: GatorTrae on April 21, 2015, 06:09:44 PM
Don't make the assumption about the balast fitting or not based on them selling.
this is what I bought for my F. It's great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-3200LM-Cree-H4-9003-HB2-LED-Headlight-Conversion-Kit-Bulb-Car-Motorcycle-H-L-/151408887113 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-3200LM-Cree-H4-9003-HB2-LED-Headlight-Conversion-Kit-Bulb-Car-Motorcycle-H-L-/151408887113)
How easy was it to install? I like a bright headlight, too, and LED's are great, but others had trouble (had to modify the headlight) installing aftermarket LED bulbs.
Would you care to share your experience with it? Brightness, beam pattern, how is it at night compared with the stock one?
Doesn't the reduced power consumption put too much strain on your reg/rect.?
Thanks!
Is that led blue or white? Thanks!
There are some real concerns I ran into while looking up HID for my car. I'm ever the skeptic about such things, and there are many articles such as this one to point out the differences between the types of bulbs put into a headlamp reflector fixture.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
What I'm looking into next is 'eye brow' lights for my bike and car. Should increase visibility and add that nice "white" light at night.
Sorry it took forever to reply to the questions about my experiences with the light i posted above.
So to install, it's super easy on an F. It has a bulb with a decent size fan that screws into the back of it after you've put the bulb in. then a wire goes over to a small power ballast it is secured with double sided tape. From there it connects to the stock wire for the head lamp.
On an E i'm sure the power ballast part would be a challenge to find a place to secure it.
Regarding the voltage it pulls or strain on the regulator... I have no idea. Didn't test it. I've been using it for a few months now and no issues noticed. I've even using an OLD battery.
Regarding the light quality... the new lamp seems 10x brighter than the original. Putting on the high beam on it's even brighter as the second led is activated.
Regarding the light pattern... it is a nice wide spread and illuminates well down the road. A while back I rode with a friend, who has a Versys. he had two of these lamps and I had the original bulbs. As we were next to each other I could barely see any of my light color and pattern on my side of the road, his overpowered mine and was at least 25% longer down the road.
Regarding the light color... it is definitely a whiter color than the stock yellow. I don't recall the exact temperature number/color for reference. Maybe it's in the link?
Two issues i want to fix:
the black rubber dust cover doesn't easily fit back on between the bulb and fan. I have left it off for now. but I will need to modify it to fit better.
On a F there is a small second bulb in the headlamp housing. It's the same yellow color as the original and looks bad. I may just disconnect it as an easy fix. I'll post some pictures later.
Thanks for the review!
I'd like to ask a few more. How does the fan/heating unit attach to the bulb itself? That is not shown on the ebay link.
Are replacement bulbs available, or do you replace everything that came with it if there's a problem?
Does the Chinese origin show on the product somehow?
What modification do you think would be needed to fit the dust cover?
The fan screws into the back of the bulb, it's nicely machined and is not an issue.
replacements: I have no idea, I would assume a whole new set up.
Not sure what you mean by chinese origin show on the product. I didn't notice any markings, but it's been a few months.
The dust cover just needs the hole in the middle enlarged a bit. Should be easy, but always something else to do instead.
Also, you will notice the fan come on when you turn 'on' the bike. But you can't hear it once the motor is started.
You'll need to supply your own double sided tape.
If you have an F, just buy it! You won't regret it.
I've very tempted to buy it but I have convinced myself to first source a replacement rubber boot thingie. I might try a junk yard and see if I can scavenge something from any other vehicle with any number of wheels that'll fit the bike, so that I can keep the original boot intact in case I ever want to revert to the H4 halogen OEM bulb. I bet I'll be able to find something sooner or later that'll work with the help of some creative dentistry.
EDIT: I pulled the trigger anyway... Since it's coming from China, I have at least two years to figure out how to deal with the rubber dust boot before the bulb arrives, so I figured why not just go for it.
As to the smaller clearance light that will now be yellower than the headlamp: Amazon and eBay have lots of LEDs that'll work in that spot so the aesthetics shouldn't be a worry.
Now for a good LED tail/brake bulb replacement... Suggestions?
Ok when you're right, you're right! Noteworthy light output and not terribly blue either. Plus they've cleverly used the top LED for dipped beam, meaning light is reflected down by the housing and glare is relatively minimal as a result.
Now about the box: mine is zip tied to the buttress for the triple up top but the wiring seems a bit exposed and dangly. Also I've not sorted a rubber boot solution.
All suggestions welcome and a huge thanks for the bulb tips!
post of pic of how you did the power box.
Mine is double side taped to the inside of the fairing off to the right side, sort of near the area behind the turn blinker.
I looked at the boot again yesterday. I put it down after five seconds and went back to my other projects. :dunno_black:
Aha, thanks! I'm thinking of laying it flat facing upwards on the horizontal inner surface of the lower part of the nose piece of the fairing. I'll post pics once I can (it's now night here, everywhere except in front of my bike -- in front of my bike it's like that scene from "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" where the huge mothership UFO lights up for the first time).
I wonder if their 9007 units are good; I've got a car in mind that I'd like to swap... Heh...
where you described is where I put mine with the tape, about 500 miles and no problems.
Any pictures, guys? I'd be really interested :)
Do you have the dust cover problem resolved?
Totally, would love to see pics. Mind's naked so I'd need to hide the gear well.
Here's pic from the install on my F....
hmm I thought the attachment worked. maybe i'll post to web and link to it.
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That's basically my setup right now also. I've yet to sort out the rubber boot either.
Main (high) beam is unimpressive. However the bulb is very (!!!) bright and visibility to others is improved a lot. Low beam is a different pattern than the halogen but glare to others is not a problem so far, I can see better, and I can be seen better too. Sorry no pics yet; no time.
Looks great, not nearly as big as I thought. White would stand out without the fairing but maybe a lick of black spray paint would fix that.
So no worries about the poor hi beam? Low suffices?
Thanks for the pics!
How do you mean, that high beam is unimpressive? I am generally satisfied with the stock high beam at night, is this weaker than that?
Also, how does visibility improve if high beam 's*cks'?
I dont have any concerns about the light. it's easily brighter and whiter than the stock set up on either pattern. I did use high beam a few times in the spring and it was fine. It's summer now and I don't normally ride at night so no need for another few months.
I don't see how it could fit on an E. There are a few wires and the wires to the ballast part may not be long enough to hide that part under the tank. maybe there's a better spot though.
RallyFan did you take any pics of it before install? I'll look for mine.
Here is mine velcroed to the lower left inner nose fairing lip. Take care to support the underside of the lip so you don't crack the fairing. No boot in this pic. Wiring zip tied to fairing strut brace. The "box" for the LED lamp is barely visible under the adjustment mechanism; if you look closely you will see two wires heading toward the box under the adjuster. I used "industrial" velcro simply because I had it already.
Main beam is not as shocking as low beam. I'm pleased nonetheless and it's especially great in the day (not a typo; day) as the bike is visible no matter what the background. Adjust the beam at night and see what you think.
Do NOT stare into the bulb. Seriously!
Thanks!!!
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Thanks for the picture!
I really want one right now :icon_razz:
:icon_mrgreen: I'm pretty happy to have helped you guys with this new head lamp. This is a good 'mod' that more of the F guys should get on board with. The difference in illumination is huge. :icon_mrgreen:
Also note that I was stuck riding in a hard rain for over 10 miles on Tuesday and had no issues w/o the dust cover on the back of the bulb/fan.
How "high" is your bulb adjusted? I've lowered mine almost to the bottom of the adjuster's travel. Did you re-aim after installing the LED?
As for water concerns, I worry about the connector to the bike harness rather than the fan. Good that you had no problems.
I did not re-aim the bulb. For now, 100% of riding is daylight. Will consider it later though.
I aimed lower for fear of blinding traffic. I keep the headlight on day and night (required by law here). Now, I'm a bit of a Clydesdale so I may tend to tilt the nose up a bit more when I ride so that may make it easier for my lamp to be too high (with me, it's always like all bikes have a pillion...).
As promised I'm sorting out the situation with the boot.
The boot that was on my bike is apparently the same boot that is found on late 1990s Honda Civic cars. In my area, people buy these cars for their children, who proceed to install huge mufflers on them. Another popular modification is to wrap the car around a tree. Therefore, spares are available at any wrecker.
Also, here is an eBay auction with the exact item that was on my bike:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-2000-HONDA-CIVIC-HEADLIGHT-boot-seal-RUBBER-33126SV4003-OEM-96HC1-/141760326045?hash=item210192e99d:g:qtYAAOxyLN9SesV1&vxp=mtr
An even cheaper alternative, if one is not afraid to perform some mauling with an exacto, is available at CandlePower online for $5. It's not the same item but ultimately I'm somehow making a big deal out of a small piece of molded rubber.
The lamp itself still runs great, fan hums away and the intensity will melt retinas head on.
Outcome: I ended up trimming off the "threaded" part of the OEM boot, allowing the LED bulb and fan to screw together without leaving much of a gap in the rubber at all. I also cut a small slit in the bottom between the two drain holes to allow the other wiring to go through. End of problem.
Thanks again for the LED tip!