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Title: Strange day, strange problems.
Post by: junk301 on April 24, 2015, 03:03:53 PM
So for the last few months ive been dealing with charging issues with my bike.  however as long as i kept my battery on the trickle when i got home i could commute no problem..So i go to start it today and the starter motor just spins.. i thought the battery was dead so i charged her up and tried again..No cigar. So strange enough i try to roll my bike so i could bump start her and i couldn't roll it in gear(as in the clutch wouldnt disengage from the engine..if that sounds right). So i test it out and my chain/wheel wont move when i pull the clutch..its stuck. I go investigate under the sprocket cover and clean it out etc. I put it back on and the clutch still wont work.

The first thing i want to do is fix my clutch, so i can at least bump start the bike (i need to drive it cuz im moving some 150km in two days).

And tips? im dying over here

Title: Re: Strange day, strange problems.
Post by: Slack on April 24, 2015, 03:12:04 PM
Is the clutch properly adjusted? all 3 points?

I would first pull off the starter.
It's a wild shot, but the pinion could have broken off of the starter solenoid and jammed in the motor. Which would let the starter spin without starting the engine, and would also lock the engine in place.
Title: Re: Strange day, strange problems.
Post by: junk301 on April 24, 2015, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: Slack on April 24, 2015, 03:12:04 PM

It's a wild shot, but the pinion could have broken off of the starter solenoid and jammed in the motor. Which would let the starter spin without starting the engine, and would also lock the engine in place.

Thanks for the response. In case the pinion is jammed in the motor would that mean bump starting the bike could potentially damage the engine? Or would it not even be possible to bump start. I would like to get it to my mechanic but hes 100km away. I will research how to adjust the clutch tonight and try that.

and also..if i were to remove the sprocket cover then shift the bike in gear, should the chain move or would it be stuck?
Title: Re: Strange day, strange problems.
Post by: Slack on April 24, 2015, 04:09:19 PM
If the pinion is jammed then you don't want to try bump starting it.  It probably wouldn't work, but that's good because if it did it would really f things up.

I don't exactly understand you last question.
Title: Re: Strange day, strange problems.
Post by: Toner on April 24, 2015, 04:11:54 PM
adidas guy made a video about doing a repair job when his starter motor just span as the generator rotor had come loose:
Might be useful: 

Title: Re: Strange day, strange problems.
Post by: junk301 on April 24, 2015, 04:31:38 PM
Quote from: Slack on April 24, 2015, 04:09:19 PM

I don't exactly understand you last question.

Ok, im trying to figure out why my clutch isnt disengaging. When I remove the sprocket cover and the clutch lever goes loose, should my chain be moving in first gear or should it remain engaged? I dont understand why its not working all of a sudden. If I were to push the clutch pin should it disengage the clutch? if so, it doesnt do anything. So id like to know, is there a way to start my bike without pulling in the clutch. For example what if my clutch cable were to have snapped and i still need to get home? I feel like this is connected with my starter issue in some way as both problems occured at the same time.

Quote from: Toner on April 24, 2015, 04:11:54 PM
adidas guy made a video about doing a repair job when his starter motor just span as the generator rotor had come loose:
Might be useful



Thank you i will check this out!
Title: Re: Strange day, strange problems.
Post by: junk301 on April 24, 2015, 05:35:01 PM
UPDATE. to end of this strange day. I bypassed the clutch killswitch and the bike started. And after i turned it off, the clutch started to disengage again. Strange, maybe as soon as it started something loosened up. When i start it it still make a whirling noise for 2 seconds before it cranks over. Hopefully this can get me to my mechanic.  Thanks for your help gstwins!