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Title: Trouble cold starting
Post by: popnlock on September 18, 2015, 04:59:23 AM
So recently i have had trouble starting my bike in the morning. The battery is fairly new i purchased it April 2015, it is a Scorpion 12v 170 CCA AGM Power Sport & Motorcycle Battery. When i go to start the bike first thing in the morning it seems like the battery is dead. It struggles to turn over and occasionally i will get a loud pop out of the exhaust and sometimes it starts and other times i have to pop start it. When i leave for work in the afternoon it seems the start fine without the issue i have in the morning.

If anyone has any ideas let me know.

Thanks,
Josh
Title: Re: Trouble cold starting
Post by: bmf on September 18, 2015, 05:21:56 AM
Have you tested the battery voltage? Try with a good known battery. Could be your charging system is not keeping it fully charged. Or there is a parasitic drain.

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Title: Re: Trouble cold starting
Post by: popnlock on September 18, 2015, 06:39:20 AM
The battery voltage is around 13v so it should be fine.
Title: Re: Trouble cold starting
Post by: Big Rich on September 18, 2015, 06:59:01 AM
When were the valves checked last?
Title: Re: Trouble cold starting
Post by: popnlock on September 18, 2015, 08:41:23 AM
I checked them last winter (2014-2015)
Title: Re: Trouble cold starting
Post by: EdChen on September 18, 2015, 09:37:11 AM
Are you using the choke to start? Any running issues once the bike is all warmed up?
Title: Re: Trouble cold starting
Post by: Big Rich on September 18, 2015, 04:36:48 PM
The only other thing with the battery I can think of is it having a bad cell. That could give a higher resting voltage, but drops considerably under load (starting cold). Next time you have the cold starting problem, try jumping the battery from a non running car battery.

There could be an issue with electrical corrosion around the starter motor / relay wires as well.

On the same train of thought as using the choke..... make sure that both choke plungers move when pushing the choke down.
Title: Re: Trouble cold starting
Post by: cWj on September 20, 2015, 11:14:04 PM
Voltage while running?

Tested R/R?

Tested stator?

(Rick's motorcycle electrics has a few good instructional vids on youtube)

plug condition?
Title: Re: Trouble cold starting
Post by: Bluesmudge on September 21, 2015, 09:54:46 AM
What temperature are we talking about? I've noticed that when its sort of cold but not all that cold my GS wants just a little bit of choke and won't start with all or none. Very much an exact science.

Also, wider valve clearances and a +1 size pilot jet will help a lot with cold starting, but it sounds like you have an electrical problem.
Title: Re: Trouble cold starting
Post by: popnlock on September 22, 2015, 11:56:32 AM
Cold start i am only referring to starting in the morning bike has not warmed up at all temperatures are probably around 50-60 degrees. I have the choke pulled down all the way but i have tried it half and none at all. Spark plugs are in pretty good condition.

I will have to check the starter relay and voltage when the bike is started when i get home.

Bike runs great once it is started and if i stop and start the bike again it starts right up. 
Title: Re: Trouble cold starting
Post by: cWj on September 25, 2015, 06:33:16 AM
sounds like battery to me..... check voltage at battery one morning cold, see how far it drops when switched to "on"....