I wrecked my bike last Thursday and broke my leg. Here's what happened. I'm coming off the freeway and it was one of those off ramps that have to switch positions with the on ramp people. The lady next to me isn't paying attention and I'm about to miss my exit so I speed up to go around. I start the turn and realize I'm going to fast for the turn. I try to apply some brakes during the turn (mess up number one). Now in my head I'm saying don't lock up the tires don't target fixate. Want to guess what I did?
The rear wheel locks up and I start sliding toward the guard rail. Now I'm thinking this is going to hurt. A few seconds before I hit the guard rail I slide on some gravel which made me feel like I was sliding fast. My leg get crushed between my bike and the guard rail and I bounce off and fly into the road.
A few minutes later someone stops and asks if I have any neck or back pain, nothing of the sort. So I take my gear off and lay down (I felt like I was going to pass out) my leg is in excruciating pain at this time. I get offered to go to the hospital but I refuse (I'm thinking more about my money than my health at this point. Finally after all my information is taken down by the police they send me on my way. I check out my bike and here are the damages, broken side fairings, bent handlebar, bent right side peg, scratches on the exhaust, and the Suzuki sticker that covers the right side of the engine fell off.
I put my leg on ice and elevate it for the rest of the day and night and the next morning it's worse so I go in and get X-rays. What do you know, I broke my fibula. So now I'm out of work and school for a week and condemned to this couch lol.
Just thought I'd share that with you guys. Never ride faster because you're in a rush and ride safe guys.
(http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af336/ragecage23/FAF12B06-DFAC-4D70-89B0-71D098A5DBEA.jpg)
yup been there lol. :( i waited 12 almost 14 hours on the distal fibula ( on end close to ankle bone. ) and distal tib on left. thought that pain would subside. it didnt. wishing you the best in recovery. was it a simple , open ,compound, spiral or pillion fracture?
Aaron
I waited about the same (after some beer and ibuprofen) and its called a lateral malleolus fracture. This isn't the vacation I wanted lol
Ughhh.... so sorry to hear this rage :icon_sad: I really hope it heals up quick.
Thank God you're alive... thank you for sharing your story.
this is The Universe's way of telling you to that you haven't been watching nearly enough cartoons .
take your time, do your PT when it's time, get well. :thumb:
Aye lateral malleolus aka the fibula. mine broke twice well a simple fracture first then deteriorated to a spiral hence the need for ORIF ( open reduction internal fixation) it wont heal its not trying so ill be back getting operated on again in around 3 weeks id say. only thing holding it together is the titanium plate and screws. lets hope it works out for you without need for durgery Eh? 12 hours later i figured, this hurts WORSE. time to have it looked at lol. same as you pretty much lol. got that pic as a wallpaper on my phone. as a reminder when doc/ortho says ABSOLUTELY NO WEIGHT BEARING this is why. i ambulate only enough to get to bathroom. beyind that sit down and elevate it. how long did your ortho tell you to stay off of it?
He said to come back in a week. Luckily there wasn't any ligament or tendon damage so hopefully I'm back on my feet soon. I forgot how hard it is using crutches.
Thank you cWj and ShowBiz, I can't wait to heal up and be back on two wheels again.
my friend heres to hoping for a successful recovery. i think i was at the opposite end of scale on severity ( see DOC thread in tf. for details.bi wont crap up yours any more. :) you lucked out on this one. in the common bracket it seems. ie most end up like this. heres hoping a week is all you need. mine hasnt after a month. lol.we expect details Eh? any way you can post the xray of it?, most of the time theyre free to obtain. ( how i got mine)
But only post if youre comfortable doing so ;)
Aaron
Lousy luck mate, hope it heals quickly.
You're right... one thing us older guys have learnt over the years is that trying to 'speed' out of a situation can often (maybe not always) get you into more trouble.
Always choose the 'back-off' safe way out!!!
Yikes man.... glad you're at least able to tell your story. Sorry to hear about your spill.
Be sure to heal up fast! If I had any GS parts to donate, I would.
Aye jools nailed it. i tried too fast too soon maybe. ill be 41 the 16th of january. im going to quit the pain meds for 48 hours to get an accurate rep. lf pain levels. DUDE use me as an exapmple. do what doc says how he says and for at least how long he ( or she) says. ill upload the pic of what can happen if you dont. mine accd to doc is irreparable this was 4 weeks after incident. its relevant for this thread as well as my doc thread because we broke the same bone. almost at same spot. age and method of fracture being 2 of few differences. ifj i cant upload it from this phone, ill upload it from office comp at church tomorrow. actually ill upload both. from the front and from side facing fib. dont try too soon. im paying for this mistake i think. please my friend dont do likewise.
Aaron
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 26, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
my friend heres to hoping for a successful recovery. i think i was at the opposite end of scale on severity ( see DOC thread in tf. for details.bi wont crap up yours any more. :) you lucked out on this one. in the common bracket it seems. ie most end up like this. heres hoping a week is all you need. mine hasnt after a month. lol.we expect details Eh? any way you can post the xray of it?, most of the time theyre free to obtain. ( how i got mine)
But only post if youre comfortable doing so ;)
Aaron
The X-ray is in the first post. And thanks again everyone. I'll definitely be in the for sale area looking for what I need.
sorry my friend. browser in this phone is obsolete. sometimes it will display, sometimes not. anyhoo my what NOT to do example pics wont upload to either pb acct of mine. will upload them to both threads. mine may not have been preventable. then again it might have. either way i find out in 3 weeks how much of leg i stand to lose. PLEASE dont end up in same boat im in only thing holding my fib. together until next procedure is the titanium plate and screws. btw if you hate crutches as much as i do, find a walker at goodwill. i use both a wheelchair as well as a walker. walker is ALOT easier to use vs crutches.
Aaron
Here's hoping you recover fast!
Sounds like pretty much the same damage to my bike when I went down, sans fairings because I have a GS500E. Luckily for me I had all the stock parts available to get the bike back on the road with little/no cost.
Also luckily for me it wasn't at highway speeds nor did I run into a guard rail, so the worst I got was a sprained wrist. I'm guessing you ATGATT if all you suffered was a break? Did paramedics come out and play with you? I only declined a trip to the hospital after getting poked and prodded everywhere that hurt and determined nothing was broken. If I was in excruciating pain I don't think I would have refused.
I'm assuming you were able to walk, but how did you get home? How did you get the bike home?
If he had broken the TIBIA he'd not be walking. it supports most of the body weight. the fibula otoh supports maybe 17% if that. but hurts like a sonofab*tch if broken. both he and i broke same bone in roughly same place and ill be damned around same time lol.except for maybe a month separating the two incidences. aug 12 i broke mine a week later broke left. a week later had surgery on right then 2 weeks later im told 99%certainty nothing can be done with it. his i hope and pray he has nowhere near these issues. which going by what was said he made off quite well. in an incident which shojld have been lethal. if not lethal should have been FAR,FAR WORSE. tbh it should have been far far worse than my month lol. yet he gets a minor leg fracture. am i angry no not in the least. quite the opposite. i look at it as a parent would look at a child. or a brother to a sibling. as though my sibling got handed a new lease on life. a blank slate if you will.. tears im crying are those of joy. that he got off scott free ( in a relative sense)
Aaron
Quote from: ragecage23 on September 26, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 26, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
my friend heres to hoping for a successful recovery. i think i was at the opposite end of scale on severity ( see DOC thread in tf. for details.bi wont crap up yours any more. :) you lucked out on this one. in the common bracket it seems. ie most end up like this. heres hoping a week is all you need. mine hasnt after a month. lol.we expect details Eh? any way you can post the xray of it?, most of the time theyre free to obtain. ( how i got mine)
But only post if youre comfortable doing so ;)
Aaron
The X-ray is in the first post. And thanks again everyone. I'll definitely be in the for sale area looking for what I need.
im unable to open or see anything here. i get a half hour of me time on my office comp every sunday @ church.. will look at it then. mentally i know youre taking it better than i am. :) may GOD be with you and your recovery be swift. those here will be able to assist you ib your recovery and your bikes recovery. im going to step back assisting however i can.
Aaron
Quote from: Watcher on September 26, 2015, 09:52:27 PM
Here's hoping you recover fast!
Sounds like pretty much the same damage to my bike when I went down, sans fairings because I have a GS500E. Luckily for me I had all the stock parts available to get the bike back on the road with little/no cost.
Also luckily for me it wasn't at highway speeds nor did I run into a guard rail, so the worst I got was a sprained wrist. I'm guessing you ATGATT if all you suffered was a break? Did paramedics come out and play with you? I only declined a trip to the hospital after getting poked and prodded everywhere that hurt and determined nothing was broken. If I was in excruciating pain I don't think I would have refused.
I'm assuming you were able to walk, but how did you get home? How did you get the bike home?
I'm not sure what ATGATT is. I didn't want to spend the money for the hospital trip. I was able to walk, although it was painful. And I rode my bike home, I just shifted through the pain too. The worst part was I was about an hour away from home when it happened.
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 26, 2015, 11:59:22 PM
Quote from: ragecage23 on September 26, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 26, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
my friend heres to hoping for a successful recovery. i think i was at the opposite end of scale on severity ( see DOC thread in tf. for details.bi wont crap up yours any more. :) you lucked out on this one. in the common bracket it seems. ie most end up like this. heres hoping a week is all you need. mine hasnt after a month. lol.we expect details Eh? any way you can post the xray of it?, most of the time theyre free to obtain. ( how i got mine)
But only post if youre comfortable doing so ;)
Aaron
The X-ray is in the first post. And thanks again everyone. I'll definitely be in the for sale area looking for what I need.
im unable to open or see anything here. i get a half hour of me time on my office comp every sunday @ church.. will look at it then. mentally i know youre taking it better than i am. :) may GOD be with you and your recovery be swift. those here will be able to assist you ib your recovery and your bikes recovery. im going to step back assisting however i can.
Aaron
Thanks again. I really hope things turn around for you. Take care of yourself.
Yea Idiot drivers.
I see that in my car now that I am leaving home for work and driving the cage 75% of the time. If these fools can act this dumb with a 4000 lb cage barreling down their field of vision and not see it, me on a bike dont have a prayer.
Get better my friend.
Cool.
Buddha.
Sorry to hear that.
Hope you have a speedy recovery!
ATGATT is All The Gear All The Time.
Helmet, jacket, pants, boots, gloves...
yup. find this label on alot of quads
Ohhhhh I had helmet, gloves, and a jacket. With denim jeans and Nike's on lol nothing torn though. I was only going 40ish mph.
Road rash at 20mph sucks! I can't tell you how many pairs of pants I've shredded, or how much flesh I have donated falling off long boards.
I got my first set of leathers for skateboarding not motorcycling!!
just do what doc says to a T ;) ( ask me how i know. or why :( ) lol well have to open up a chapeter of the broken bones club lol. least it wasnt a tib/fib fracture youd NOT be walking. i ambulate (walk) to use restroom or make dinner. thats it. if doc clears you for that even tho you feel you can do more.....DONT.
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this is my distal tibula 4 weeks post ORIF surgery. no union taking place. doc said i dont see it happening either. im thinking DUUUUUDE STFU and just tell me to visit again in 3 weeks. you see the jagged line shouldnt be there. only thing holding it together is that titanium plate. reason i say this is if doc tells you to keep weight off of it, DO what he says ;) for how long he says etc. (or she) surgery sucks lol. if you can get away without it. awesome :). but TAKE it EASY
Aaron
finally got to see yours. up near the top there. yeah if you can get this taken care of sans surgery... awesome :) yours seemed to happen as a result of the impact directly. mine began as a simple fracture from rolling ankle. ( it snapped away from eachother. ) then a week later it went to hell lol. wishing you the best :)
Did i read this right? a week off of school too? why is that was it the NWB restriction put in place by doc? youll know when you return whats next. ( prolly an aircast a moonboot lol) you lucked out my friend. we expect updates tho. :)
Aaron
Quote from: ragecage23 on September 26, 2015, 01:15:38 PM
He said to come back in a week. Luckily there wasn't any ligament or tendon damage so hopefully I'm back on my feet soon. I forgot how hard it is using crutches.
He will xray it and proceed further. get used to many xrays lol. they wait a week ( same as mine) for the inflammation to die down. and figure best way to treat. 4 weeks Post op Im still NWB yours should be far shorter. youre younger. ( ill be 41 in january) btw DO your best to not bear weight on it if at all possible. specially if doc imposes a NWB restriction. if not still take it easy Eh? Now a humorous question. what foot do you use to stomp on bugs? if its your right one, LEARN to use your left. i cant hardly feel my feet ( diabetes comp. and nerve damage from incidences) and i stomped a spider. with my right foot. i didnt have aircast on. found out real quick not to do this lol. youll have a bit of time for trivial things like this lol.
Aaron
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 28, 2015, 07:38:54 PM
Did i read this right? a week off of school too? why is that was it the NWB restriction put in place by doc? youll know when you return whats next. ( prolly an aircast a moonboot lol) you lucked out my friend. we expect updates tho. :)
Aaron
I took off from school for the week just because my university is an hour away driving. And I can't get down there with my bike. Well, I could, but I don't want to spend 3 hours on public transport.
my tib on left ( broke 19 aug.) is acting up. theres no NWB restriction in place. i placed one. until i see ortho on 15th. have to see if ive damaged it. a week off is a good idea. gives you a chance to relax to begin healing and to find out what you can or cannot do. since i moved aircast to right ( non union distal fib.) splinted up left. orthos colleague calling in am. you OTOH your fracture is displaced ( BUT should be an easy fix) if your if youre not seeing an ortho, get referred to one. this is their business :) you might be in a kneecast for a while to heal. will tell you a bit of advice. if your casted or put into a boot. it WILL be taller than your normal footw2ear. ask for a castboot so you wont slip easily. tbh ask for 2 of them. ( trust me on this) one for cast. and one for good foot. put that one over shoe. will be nearly even. ortho will give them to you ;)
Aaron
LOL just thought about something. saw some photobucket adds in my inbox 17"x24" canvas print of an image of yours. ive got the 2400x1750res. diconn image from my records. tempting as a reminder to myself and others what NWB whether self imposed or imposed by ortho. ( yes im weird lol) tbh im looking forward to hearing your docs orders on your fib. i call simple minimal weightbearing limits once bones lined up youll heal quickly and be on road again before long. least its winter coming up you can work on getting ready by christmas and be on road early spring. even if you do have to have a plate installed. ( its a day surgery thing) go in am out in 4 hours total. mine turned into 3 days because of my diabetes crashing in recovery. but 1 day IF they have to operate. ( ORIF procedure) line bones up and done. go home and heal :)
Aaron
Here's an update for you all. I got back from my doctors appointment yesterday and I have a permanent cast for 6 weeks. They wanted me to be off work for 6 weeks, but I couldn't do that so they dimmed it to 4 weeks. 3 weeks NWB then I can start walking on it with crutches. 4th week I can walk on it with the cast and go back to work. 5th week I get more X-rays to make sure everything is healing up well then 6th week I should get it off with no restrictions. As per school I need to start taking public transport (yay 2 hour commute on a bus -_-) but it could be worse of course.
Excellent. :) theres always the option of a knee scooter if you must get around. ( put casted leg on it knee in its pad and push with good leg. it DOES work. thought about it myself but issues with me prohibit it.) this might be an option if you need to get around quicker.
Aaron
I was given that option, but opted out for dignity reasons.
you should make out fine after 4 weeks youll see evidence of bone growth ( beginning stages) your fracture location was opposite mine. just keep the weight bearing to a minimum cause movement will slow down or stop bone growth. am approaching week 6 on mine. nothing yet. least youve got mass transit as an option. here i can use ethra vans to get around. least when your bones glue together you can then work on the bike. on a good note it happened near close of riding season
Aaron
Not trying to boast or put anyone down, but I ride year round. I'm at a point now where the break site doesn't hurt when I put full weight on it, but still trying to listen to the doctor.
cool :)
Quote from: ragecage23 on September 29, 2015, 06:16:17 AM
Well, I could, but I don't want to spend 3 hours on public transport.
avoid NYC at all costs.
Quote from: ragecage23 on October 03, 2015, 09:08:11 AM
I was given that option, but opted out for ego reasons.
fixed
;) :icon_razz:
Had a weird day myself. i find out ive fractured fibula on left leg so its a tib/fib now along with the fib fracture with ORIF on right ankle. do what doc says Eh? aint this fun? lol. [/sarcasm] lol.
Heres hoping my friend you heal quickly :)
Aaron
You as well! The leg is definitely the worst thing and most inconvenient bone I've broken.
found out on the 7th my distal fib was broken evidently for at least a week it seems. ( went in a week prvious to pick up a brace for it. its now in a splint. tib/fib fx suck lol. i go monday to figure out plan of attack on it and other side . gaah im getting too old for this lol. take care and heal Eh?
Aaron
My graduate work was in a bioengineering research lab. I designed bone screws and something called a bioreactor to grow human bone tissue in the lab. We liked playing around with different nutrient levels and watching how well bones grew back together, and we made screws and things that already contained those nutrients. Implants that fed the body to heal faster and biodegraded at the same rate as the tissue grew back.
I'm really proud of it.
So, thanks for the x-ray. They're really cool. It's a nice, clean break. I bet your doc was happy.
As a medical student, I'm not technically supposed to tell anyone that a magnesium supplement significantly speeds up fracture healing, and not just calcium. And that most people are extremely deficient in both, along with vitamin D since most people spend all day indoors. Magnesium is what converts vitamin D into its active form. And that a lot of doctors are too busy to prescribe it, since they worry you might need a blood panel.
So, I'll just leave this here.
http://www.bonehealthnow.com/cms/MagnesiumAndBoron_60.aspx (http://www.bonehealthnow.com/cms/MagnesiumAndBoron_60.aspx)
Just as...you know...a talking point.
Wladziu ill be damned :) i agree on the magnesium and calcium thing. dealing with 3 ankle fractures myself ( tib/fib L and fib R) ortho has recommended both as supplements. i am deficient on both . unsure on rages ssituation. but id say judging by trend, id say his is similar.
Aaron
I was never told anything about Mg or Ca as supplements, I'm supposed to start walking on it this week.
magnesium and calcium are beneficial :). just got out of ortho here. :) heading in right direction i think :). good to hear you got or are getting your walking papers :) :woohoo:
Aaron
Bit of zinc won't hurt either for brain and nerve health... :)
Quote from: Janx101 on October 13, 2015, 01:39:25 PM
Bit of zinc won't hurt either for brain and nerve health... :)
Maybe on opposite day...
Zinc-induced copper deficiency myeloneuropathy.
zinc induced copper deficiency myeloneuropathyjnnp.bmj.com/content/76/5/750.full (http://zinc%20induced%20copper%20deficiency%20myeloneuropathyjnnp.bmj.com/content/76/5/750.full)
what would you recommend for blood flow/circulation? seems my own bone healing is SLOW lol. i know im deficient in magnesium and calcium, am in an aircast on tib/fib side for almost 3 more weeks. fib is ugly but stable. or better yet, how do you convince a guy whos not used to being lazy, to be lazy? dont want to be plated on this side too.
Aaron
Quote from: Wladziu2.0 on October 13, 2015, 06:27:25 PM
Quote from: Janx101 on October 13, 2015, 01:39:25 PM
Bit of zinc won't hurt either for brain and nerve health... :)
Maybe on opposite day...
Zinc-induced copper deficiency myeloneuropathy.
zinc induced copper deficiency myeloneuropathyjnnp.bmj.com/content/76/5/750.full (http://zinc%20induced%20copper%20deficiency%20myeloneuropathyjnnp.bmj.com/content/76/5/750.full)
Ok, link not work so I looked it up anyway, maybe not exact same article, you're the med student not me! ... I don't know/recognise all the medical terminology but can infer from surrounding info....
Excessive zinc can do it sure, but its not a "if zinc then copper deficiency" automatically ... as I read it anyway... some people are copper def from other issues.
Some zinc is necessary and if not dietary then supplemental? ... if myeloneuropathy does present from reasonable zinc intake then couldn't supplemental copper be used to reverse clinical factors?
Anyway.. don't wanna have a zinc war.... I'm not a rabid advocate of the stuff... I just take it sometimes when I feel brain frazzled and it seems to work ok... ~shrug~ ... didn't mean to undercut your book learnin! :thumb:
You've had circulation problems for years, yama. We've talked about this before. And I don't feel like debating beta-blockers vs diabetes, when there's other things you can do. Primum non nocere.
You say you're not lazy, but your body is a wreck. You've almost lost that leg once, already. If infection doesn't get you sooner or later, then I'll bet my butthole that you'll have a stroke within the next ten years. Get a craigslist wheelchair, paint flames on it, and tell people it's because your d1ck is too heavy. Go chase fat chicks around a track, till their runner's-high kicks in.
And find some way to put that brain of yours to use. Why do you waste it? You literally figured out sonic therapy before an ortho surgeon. That dude made $8,000 in the hour it took you to jerk off, yesterday....and you did part of his job FOR him.
I've been gone for 5 or 6 years. In that time, you could've already been a paramedic, three times over, and on your way to PA or NP school. Sewing together drunks at the ER and prescription privileges. Overseas military contractors are paying paramedics $150,000 FECKING DOLLARS, tax free.
You could have done the GOMAD diet and the Rippetoe or 5x5 routine. $5 a day for a gallon of milk, and an hour of workout once every two days. I did that, and gained 35 pounds of muscle in 6 months. I bet you'd have never even broken those bones.
I was your friend, Aaron. It makes me upset to think of finding you in another 5-6 years, in the exact same spot with the exact same problems....or worse.
Quote from: Janx101 on October 13, 2015, 08:22:22 PM
Ok, link not work so I looked it up anyway, maybe not exact same article, you're the med student not me! ... I don't know/recognise all the medical terminology but can infer from surrounding info....
Excessive zinc can do it sure, but its not a "if zinc then copper deficiency" automatically ... as I read it anyway... some people are copper def from other issues.
Some zinc is necessary and if not dietary then supplemental? ... if myeloneuropathy does present from reasonable zinc intake then couldn't supplemental copper be used to reverse clinical factors?
Anyway.. don't wanna have a zinc war.... I'm not a rabid advocate of the stuff... I just take it sometimes when I feel brain frazzled and it seems to work ok... ~shrug~ ... didn't mean to undercut your book learnin! :thumb:
No offense taken.
Zinc can work like a B vitamin complex, in the right quantities. Yes. It helps regulate and promote neurotransmitters. Helps with depression and neuropathologies. Read this:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23567517 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23567517)
BUT, in America, people believe if one is good, two is better. A "little bit" to some people means half a bottle. In the paper I posted, the lady was popping 10 supplement pills a day for the flu. She checked into ED when she wasn't able to walk or feel her hands. Zinc blocks your intestines from absorbing copper, and it's very slow to excrete. They gave her IV copper for two weeks, and were never able to fully reverse it the nerve damage.
It's also being linked to Alzheimer's and stuff now.
I don't really like playing around with brain chemistry.
So, be careful with that stuff, please. If you take too much calcium, you can have a heart attack. Too much Mg will blow your kidneys.
I was talking about it with Yama, because we used to have nice science discussions.
Didn't mean to sound like I was biting your head off.
Im not giving up yet wladziu :) ill get this taken care of then proceed forwards :). im just used to being on my feet. that is a minimum for now. BTW shoot mary a line shed probably love to hear from you.
Aaron
Nah I'm all good Wlad. .. I hear ya on double dose stupids. ..
I only ever take Mg or Zn when I've had a huge physical or mental or both.... day and I want to be able to move/ think a little easier without grandpa sounds next day...
The whole' take everything twice' crew have real expensive pee I figure!
Gonna look up more info on copper though. . Interesting!
Good link on the zinc too!! ... Gotta say ... I plowed thru it like a wet mud field! You dang medico types use those high end multi syllable tech words just to mask a simple conversation into 'secret handshake' mode!!! :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Secret handshake? Of course not. Don't be silly. Whyever would you say such a thing?
Now, please sign here on the dotted line. Don't you want to receive treatment, Mr. Janx?
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Former-Long-Beach-Hospital-CEO-Who-Pleaded-Guilty-in-Medical-Conspiracy-Sues-for-Defamation-280414892.html (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Former-Long-Beach-Hospital-CEO-Who-Pleaded-Guilty-in-Medical-Conspiracy-Sues-for-Defamation-280414892.html)
Moving on...does anyone else have x-rays or anything to share?
I've got a knee CT which shows bugger all, MRI coming soon tho..
Lol. Apropos. I was just reading this:
http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Pottumarthi_Prasad/publication/5337752_Relationship_of_meniscal_damage_meniscal_extrusion_malalignment_and_joint_laxity_to_subsequent_cartilage_loss_in_osteoarthritic_knees/links/00b7d530e616323e38000000.pdf (http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Pottumarthi_Prasad/publication/5337752_Relationship_of_meniscal_damage_meniscal_extrusion_malalignment_and_joint_laxity_to_subsequent_cartilage_loss_in_osteoarthritic_knees/links/00b7d530e616323e38000000.pdf)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/yamahonkawazuki/th_Picture0908151617_1_zps62b2ea55.jpg) this one is my left one if you look closely at the mortise you will see the break in the tib. this happened on the 19th of august. as soon as i can find a working host since i cant upload from this phone ill upload the one from the 7th of this month.
i still consider you a friend wladziu my issues were/are somewhat mental as well as physical. then theres the first fracture, a week later another due to fall, which opened up first one. now dealing with weight loss as well as third fracture. cant get heavier than 131 it seems due to muscle atrophy. looking forward to hopefully recivering from the FX so i can physically move forward. had to take airboot off due to significant pain. youll see why when i get second xray up.
Aaron
Medial inferior articular facet, near the talus dome? Medial malleolus and deltoid looks fine, no sublux. You pronated with external rotation? Can't see the effusion without a lateral view.
Blow it up, some.
Forget atrophy. Rockstars don't get to be fat. Besides, if you manage your diabetes to handle 200 g lactose, you can run a GOMAD diet.
(http://i.imgur.com/HfzMF7B.jpg)
will do my best as far as views.. if not today, then tomorrow.
Aaron. anyways thank you. this thing hurts like a mother :"(bif i look down my lower leg/shin i can see the swelling. the fib concerns me. cause that is nearly how the other one started. will see. anyhoo, will get the requested views and edits done asap.
Left ankle still swollen but is cold feeling with a burning pain. ( tib/fib FTL) STABBING PAIN OCCASIONALLY IN RIGHT ONE at plate location. i take braces off to wiggle toes and whatnot to at least keep that part working. OH weight back up to 141. will get the pics up hopefully by sunday. can do it from my comp at church office..
Aaron
Frig this is weird. left leg is both cold and numb and on fire. will post the 3 pics sunday from office comp at church. probably will be 2 more after this series. 1 the repair of this tibfib and the checkup of the non union R. as well as the original L.. i cnt figure that one out. the fib part. unless like wladziu suggested ( my ortho as well) that it was missed the first time. if they go ORIF on left will probably be Ti using syndesmotic screws. waiting for swelling to go down. even the Fib on right didnt hurt like this. staying off of it as much as possible so it doesnt frag too bad.
Aaron
and it happened. stepped off labding into den and the broken fib butted agailnst itself felt a pop. pain level is a solid 11 on a 1 to 10 scale. no sense in going to er tho. they cant do anything. bones not even fixed with plates yet. id say with near certainty this will be in 3 weeks? if like last time. a week after this followup then 2 hours inb OR. I DONT HARDLY EVER WALK ill use a walker if i must. cause the olne on R is burning too. thats the non union one.. i feel on left a burning numbness if that makes anyy sense. beyond church sunday im going nowhere. and church is iffy at this point. course i can bring icepacks and keep them in kitchen. ever notice the harder you try NOT to do something , it is more likely to happen? lol :(
Aaron
I rented a wheelchair so there was no way I could put weight on anything, not sure if you've done this. Also, not sure if previously mentioned, but Aaron, how exactly did the injuries occur?
I got a rental also. ( yay insurance) if this ends up being permanent my insurance will cover an electric. including a KD smartchair weighs 45lbs with batts and fits in a small car. anyhoo i digress. how it happened:
August 12th ( wednesday) i stodd up turned on celing fan and prepared for bed. i fainted. rolled ankle went straight down. 12 hours later. im in ER ( r ankle distal fibula FX) Nwb
aug 19th making way to restroom i stumble over pocket door track. (L ankle Distal tib FX + it opens up R ankle FX i.e it spreads apart. necessitating the Ti plate and syndesmotic screws. surgery on 22nd coded briefly on table. surgeon said i was out a few s2conds. ( blood glucose went from 256 to 24. then later that week went into Keto acidosis attibuted to shock on system. 4 days later at home. then contract septiccemia ( blood infection from cast wound) :/ in CCU thu thru mon. anyhooast week of sept., i feel great pain in left foot/ankle. i get a lace up ankle brace i figured it was arthritis from FX. nope cause on 10/7 wound care ppl told me to go to ER. I ASKED WHY. she said look at size of left ankle. this was when distal fib on left side diagnosed . and today, GINGERLY walking to restroom using walker. i feel and hear a snap/pop felt in fib like ends griding together. frig that hurt. tbh i wished i had broken my fibs up high like yours. probably would have been beasier to deal with. oh right ankle stilla non union. i.e. bones not even trying to grow together. will have a few films specially left series uplnoaded sunday. BTW congrats on bike. :) am envious
Aaron
That's really rough. I hope they find a way to patch you up.
i do too. cause its feeling like day 1 on left one now and right one where the plate is , is now on fire. tried the RICE method
Rest
Ice
Compression
Elevation
nothing works.bcept staying in bed. even thats iffy lol :"(
Aaron
Holy crap!! Why are your bones not healing???
Just another update. I don't have a cast anymore, I've been cut loose and just can't lift anything over 20lbs for a week. Just need to stretch out my muscles, tendons, ligaments, and break up some scar tissue.
Hope all is well Aaron, take it easy.
coolness. :) my bones arent healing due to circulation issues. (mainly) idk about the tendons and ligaments and whatnot. yet. will wait and see when i have left looked at again in a week and half idk if it will be casted or plated or both. :) Eh? :) heres to healing :cheers:
:cheers:
Heres the next project for the ortho
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/yamahonkawazuki/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151021_133408_zpsyoqtewne.jpg)
made a major mistake today. didnt take my wheelchair to doc appt. cause ethra had to pick up this handicapped kid. whose chair took 1.5 of the 2 chair slots on van. was in my aircast walked very little, but a burning pain now in that leg. other side too :/. tomorrow hell with courtesy. when i go for pre op bloodwork for the 27th, im taking the chair. :technical:
AMA took shower this eve. put majority of weight on plate side. R.. i looked at left seems its shifted a bit more. wasnt like that before the ETHRA fiasco friday. would also explain the muscle and foot going useless climbing stairs momentarily. like stepping on air. also explains the extreme pain now. scheduled to see ortho on the 2nd. i dont think ill make that date. will see if i can reschedule for this coming week. will be fun doing laundry. ill have to crab crawl down 1 and a half flights of stairs. well 1.25 1 down 90deg turn then a quarter down. lol
Aaron
Think i figured it out :), ie how fib fracture on left happened.
originally just a chunk of tib at bottom. well i took that film, from 8/19 and other one from the 12th of this month and super imposed latest one over older one. my conclusion is fib FX was overlooked. or had not happened yet. the angle of this fx, mirrored the tib fx. err same spot/area. it finally let go. cause ortho and myself trying to figure this out. as to how it happened. i mean, the nwb restriction had been lifted. when the moonboot was moved to orth leg after the sepsis incident. and a month or more of use ( albeit gingerly) finally fractured the fib. cause the new fx matches/follows apparent crack as well as fx of tib. all literally match
Aaron
OMG. 1 pissed at ethra (incoming rant later) But spinal stimulator trial went amazing. the amazing part tho was the pain medicine they used. had to kill pain from wai7st down. doc used fentanyl introduced into spinal column. ( epidural area) 1 cant feel fracture pain for now. and until it wears off, cant feel ANY pain. plus i feel as tho im 20 years younger.. lmao. but fracture wise ill hold off until the 2nd for ortho. the stimulator helps, and my pain med prescription, good to go for a while :).
Aaron
feels amazing to be totally pain free. im grinning like a cheshire cat. too bad thats temporary lol
Something just let go in ankle while making dinner ( chicken alfredo) felt a "thunk" thanks to the SCS device though i can crank it up and all i feel in ankle is pressure. observed a distict wside shift toward the medial (inside) area and talus/heel in aqn upwards direction. so im predomantly flat ffooted . not been on this thing for a month per docs orders. except bathroom and kitchen duties.. but its okay. ill keep the SCS ( spinal cord stim) running like this. all i have to do is make it through church tomorrow. then i see ortho monday. ( he figures out whats next and when i get into the OR. tues i have the scs removed. it being a trial.
Aaron
10 hours from now i find out what the next step is on this ankle. how ortho is going to repair it., plates and screws, syndesmotic screws/nails, external fixation before surgery, or immediate surgery or idk. Am thoroughly scared but at ease as well. i will finally find out. going to try and see if theyll xray the R ankle as well and see if it has healed. if so i may be able to lift its NWB restriction. Should be able to have an updated xray for L if i bring tablet. or ill have to wait 24 hours. either way today i know. :)
Aaron
Will upload films today while at ortho. will grab screenshot from surgeons computer. with my tablet, and use wifi. once i get my hands on dvd ill wifi that one. may wait until after surgical procedure though. along with a selfie or 2.
Aaron
Got back from ortho earlier. R ankle pretty much healed plate seemed to have pulled back a tad. but he doesnt seem overly concerned :) so unless pain brings ne to the floor again ill not be either. now the left ankle breaks. the original one. mostly healed ( almost a union) its not progressed much. but Doc isnt overly concerned either. now the fib. its bent at an angle. he isnt overly concerned. says its within tolerance. ( arthritis here i come lol :"( )
i see him again in a month unless things deteriorate. will see Eh? he says i can perform ROM exercises on it ( Range Of Motion, also break up scar tissue. am not looking fwd to that. but can do that to tolerance. if it goes to sh*t,bcall him. i.e. feels like new break pain. will see. anyhoo, wasnt able to get too nosy . and get films, but will be back at pain doc .tomorrow to have spine device removed and perm one planned. may try to get films then. if not will grab and post on the 20th at next pm appt.
Aaron
As long as i follow ortho advice the bone shouldnt displace any further. as long as it doesnt i shouldnt need to have it secured ( his words) i didnt use the wheelchair today when i went for the surgery/visit to have the SCS removed. had to remain standing for that procedure. didnt hurt too much. we didnt use any anesthesia. didnt need to if it was done standing and i remained still. as long as i dont put weight on ankle i SHOULD be ok. began working on ROM excercises with ankle. slightly over did it but its ok. working on breaking loose the scar tissue :)
Aaron
Sounds like some healthy progress bro! ... and good to see you are feeling somewhat positive! :thumb: ... good job that man! :D
Going to take a break from the ROM stuff. burning like hell. he was nervous as hell on its location. RIGHT at the end of the fib. if i over do it. i will get screwed lol. screws and plates through it into the syndesmotic ligament and into the tib. so taking a break and SLOWLY bringing it up. will be painful as hell but going to put the lace up ankle brace on. and then once it calms down. will stretch it inside the brace
Aaron.
think im a strong nominee for Klutz of the year lol :(
Gee. .. yes Yama. .. while you can start your recovery stuff... easy does it bro! ... baby steps!
AYE. ITs what i get for goin off like that. going to ice it for a few days. got a pic of it. the FX actually shows thru the skin. if i rotate foot to inside you can see exactly where the FX . ( will post that tonorrow kinda cool. and its totally safe for work. )
Aaron
Well you know where to stop before pain now! .. I'd halve what you did this time as a start and ease it up bit by bit from there! :thumb:
Well the other clincher of the klutz award is i had the SCS turned up. it all but blocks pain down there. today it was removed ( permanent one goes in 2 weeks from now. well a tad less.) so i have to start over. going to have to be bored for a few days to get pain to go away . that will suck something fierce. tired of watching tv. walking IS possible but not allowed. etc. walking from my den to bathroom is 40ft den to kitchen is 20 . that pushes it. trying to figure out mobility without damaging it worse.
Aaron
Walk on your hands? ;)
Lol dont tempt me. as the old saying goes " an idle mind is the devils playground" meh walking around the house i can still do. (safely) lol
Aaron
A few years ago on this site pretty much every week we were getting reports of someone crashing, prompting someone to post saying - no more crashing for any one ... I feel that way about this year, except its all been Yamahon. Hope you get better man.
Cool.
Buddha.
I remember this lol. :(. just myself and ragecage this year. cept mine didnt involve a crash. unless you count my body crashing to the floor straight down. the last one tho is a mystery to both myself as well as my ortho. ( 2 broken ankles, one of them twice.) monday doc says he wants to keep an eye on it but wait yet another month. elevation and ice and all the things one can do to alleviate this arent working. contemplating getting a second opinion . he wants to wait and see if it displaces any more before proceeding with a course of treatment. the FX is nearly at the very end of it i guess its why. pain meds are largely inneffective. the only thing that helped was the SCS trial from minimed. i pleaded to let me keep it going for a while longer. not supposed to help with fracture pain, but a side effect/bonus was that it did. the ROM excercises dont really help except that i do those anyways ambulating to the bathroon and to the kitchen. and in a day or so to the basement to get laundry done. pain wont let up. i have a consult with dr kahn next week ( the neuro who will perform the SCS implantation into my spinal column) procedure being the following week. idk how much longer i am cleared for the wheelchair rental either. this is killing me mentally lol. i havent called ortho yet with these concerns because i feel as tho im hassling him and staff about things that happen anyways with fractures. but its wearing me out upstairs. idk how much more of this i can take lol :S. may call them tomorrow just have to figure out what to say that theyve not already heard. its only been 5 weeks since fracture date ( estimated) suspending ROM until i figure this out. may dig out my tens unit and try to acquire some pads if theyre not too pricy at walmart/drugstore and see if that will work. i think radiologist missed this one because of a common occurence. the original fracture was a distal tibia fracture. its commonplace when this happens, that the fibula is damaged as well. both the tib and fib were broken on the lateral side. the tibs fx and the later fib one the fx had the same line at same location. i superimposed both films and the fx lined up. this is my hypothesis . i was able to show him this on his computer. but it cannot be repaired easily like the other one ( TI plate And screws) yet he wants me to proceed with the ROM excercises. did this once. pain has yet to lessen. goal is to strengthen the muscles there WITHOUT displacing the fractures. if i do i end up getting plates and screws through the syndesmotic ligament ( between tib and fib) in essence fusing my ankle together. got to figure out how to get this off my mind. it is quite taxing. :(.
And yes weve got to keep people OUT of the BBC (broken bones club) 3 of us so far this year. myself, rage and i believe janx. no more Eh? lol. anyways time to go curl up for a while. will talk later :(. yall take care Eh? :)
Aaron
Nah I'm not broken!, just hyper extended knee, stretched a few little ligaments and patella was mal-tracking towards outside of leg by about 10 deg I think they said.
Light resistance exercises have done wonders!
Yama, while I know you do have to move about some.... that's using the leg.... the Rom stuff is to warm/stretch/motivate the leg again without significant load yeah?!
And always seek a second opinion if you can! ... its your leg! , your extended recovery time and your Pain that's involved..... 2nd opinion may say same thing but you make sure either way!
:thumb:
The alphabet excercises do the same thing heel remans planted and great toe traces out the letters.. A.....B.....C etc
Aaron
IDK about 2nd opinion yet. reserving that one. id walk on mine in house WITHIN REASON and against medical advice like i had mentioned, to bathroom and kitchen. beyond that, well at grocers, from car to the geezer carts they have inside. and use those. but beyond that ive been a good boy lol
Aaron
Morning tea break... just tried alphabet thing... that's tricky to get exact!
Giving ankle a break. hurtin like day 1 only way it doesnt as much is if i stand up lol :"(
Aaron
You got the boot on? If it's hurting while prone then I think that means the leg is not evenly supported and putting small stresses on your owies! ... should be possible to adjust padding to even the support pressures up?
Those alphabet exercises... you drawing them in the air? On a vertical surface? On the ground?... I was trying them on ground and got sole cramps! ... then realised you didn't actually say on ground! Lmao
I was never cleared for the alhpabet excercises . however, since i was cleared for mild stretching (ROM) I FIGURE THIS WORKS TOO. never told how to do it. just googled it. id keep my heel on the ottoman, then "write" the letters with my big toe/entire foot.i made it through H. the moonboot i dont use unless i go out grocery shopping. my insurance would cover grocery delivery but goin crazy sitting idle. both my aircast/moonboot and the lace up brace are made by BREG on a bad day ill use them both together. the boot has air bladders i can inflate for comfort. i risk damaging it if i overdo it, then i end up in surgery again. so im taking it easy on the FX. i would trade places with rage anyday lol. his was broken near the upper end . not joint critical like mine. its freaky i can see it thru the skin if i turn ankle just the right way. looks like it fused to the skin lol. :(
Aaron
Had the bright idea of going to church today sans wheelchair. BIG MISTAKE. was cleared to use ROM excercise. figured this wouldnt be too bad. i was wrong lol. :/
back to low level excercises :(
Aaron
Gee Yama! You determined to punish that leg mate! ... understand completely that you going batshit crazy being housebound! You gotta make the right calls tho!
Maybe the 'naughty nurse' needs to give you a spankin! ;)
I figured since i was cleared for ROM excercises, short distance walking wouldnt be bad. i thought wrong. im not repeating that mistake again. not going to risk it requiring plate surgery.
Aaron
Good job!
Am not going to push it anymore. bone is still screaming at me, but scar tissue has calmned down somewhat. it will tell me when it is ready. the R ankle has healed. its not 100% but its headed there. idk how much longer i have the wheelchair for, i THINK until the 27th. may try to grab a second hand knee scooter. or a sit down currie electric scooter. theyre about the same price to be honest.
Aaron
Wait.
Is there even a question??
SCOOTER!!!!!!!!
got my eyes open for one lol :)
Aaron
I .........ant to cry. i think the Ti plate was 32moved
By me rolling ankle 3x. while attending church first rolling on way into the marble building
Aaron
Snonofabi*ch ! :technical: i shouldnt have went on church trip sat. i did take walker, as per docs advice, on way into temple, i collapsed. pain wasnt too much worse. so i righted myself. err i collapsed 5 times. just left ER. I REBROKE original tib fx plus anothdr section there.. virtually guarantetheeing me surgery. based upon stability tringle im over 2/3rds unstable now. ( more to come next post) :technical:
aaron
Aww Yama! ... sad news! :(
Why you do this to yourself? Keep pushing it too early I mean?
Yes y friend, guilty as chared., and from now forward ( figuring 12mos to have limb back at 100%. Radiologist said " MAKE APPOINTMENT WITH beuro/ortho to be within 2 days" i said i had one set uo for the end of week. he reolied " due to the significancd of this fractureq. if you want to try ro keep this limb, 2 days MAX" I SAID OK. consider it done. oving onto other injury" ( more to come in doc thread in shoer order.
Aaron
When you are back home and all your jigsaw leg pieces are back together. .. (can't remember if I've asked the following before)... is there a community nurse or something similar that can drop in on you and help? ... meals on wheels? ... church assistance?
Brother you need to heal! Not be Mr Independant! ... healing requires assistance. .. and possibly a scolding when 'they' get there and find your good self trying to get things done!
I'm not one to take much help a lot of times either! ... but there comes a point when you have to use every service available!
And please forgive/understand if this seems harsh... but you can build your project trike being able bodied too! .. you don't need to push yourself to lose a limb mate! :/
I know you are 'good people' and a very intelligent individual! .. there's a lot of folk here that wish/pray you some good health and good luck! .. even if they don't post it!
You behave yourself this time when they put you together!
(Man hug!)
Much appreciated my friend, much appreciated.
The trike will happen. not if, or maybe but WiLL. yeah not TRYING TO go monopod. My actions it seems dont go in that direction. :/. or i try to do something destined/designed for one that is ablebodied. or being productive versus counter productive. seems many of my actions have the word counter in their description. this is a situation where doing LESS brings far, FAR more. now nursing, i dont think i have home health care. i also have a cluttered home :( maybe its pride, but idk. tis why i dont have many guests. insurance WILL cover an inpatient facility. i.e. a speciialised nursing home/ rehabilitation facility. tbh am keeping that option on the table, but trying NOT to have to use it. if that can be avoided.
Aaron
.. the help is there to be used! .. and if someone could help at home.. they not bothered as much as you think by clutter! .. they are there for you not a design magazine!
Use any and all help you are entitled to!
yup. unless youre like me. white, male and childless lol
Aaron
I'm gonna have to buy a lottery ticket then! .. win a big heap and fly over to help ... aren't I!! :thumb:
tbh im pushed mentally by the severity of this. need help imme2diately with left hand ( neuro. ) its all but i put a med in it, its as clumsy as a bulldozer. cant find a neuro......WAITAMINUTE, hell ive got a neuro. Dr. Kahn. hes working on me next week. ( the SCS implant surgery) ill talk to him then. hopefully he can take care of it. dont thunk waiting a week would be too long.?
Aaron
Ring him up and explain arm issue, just in case they can put you on a urgent/bump up list?! .. wait if you have to but try for earlier?
Part of me want to scold you for being so goddam independent and yet I understand how and why it happens. But you really do push it. You have had TWO MAJOR INJURIES and seem to insist on trying to pretend it hasn't happened at all.
Sadly there comes a time when the most cost-effective (or at least time-effective) way to get back to normal is to just shut down for a while. I know it's as tedious as all hell, but in the long run it will be the quickest way back to full health and, more importantly, riding!
We, that is the community here, all want to hear better news from you. We want you to get well and to be as normal as the rest of us, but you've got to stop pushing it. You can abuse your body when it's healthy and get away with it (sort of), but if you keep doing it when it's not then you're asking for trouble.
As I said earlier, I really do understand why. But it's time to take the long term view and use the winter (non-riding time) to recuperate and get ready for next season. Even top class athletes have to take time out of their training to recover from injuries, so think of of yourself in that light!
Sorry if this seems a bit of a rant, but you seem to be an intelligent caring person who doesn't deserve the shaZam! you're going through so you need to take control of your situation and get better!!!!
Take care of yourself: we're all pulling for you.
Yes sir, point taken. from this day fwd, i will be lazy. i deserve the writeup. :( only exception will be church and doc visits. i MAY postpone the SCS implant surgery. idk if my body can handle 2 msjor surgeries.bafter the Ankle, may postpone the other one. cause i go into DKA ( DIABETIC KETO ACIDOSIS or my blodd sugar crashes.)
Aaron
Well, no surgery needed `(yet) i was diagnosed with charcot arthopathy. aka charcot foor. :( this may be a permanent factor of my life. weakben7ing bonnes, tyhe neuropathy, etc.. it getsw ugly later o8n . if left untreated. program used to treat it, can slow it down. btw multiple fractures. discovered.. all pointi7ng at charcot foot, weakening bones etc. soooooo im in a cast again. ferrari red lol. i jreturn in 3 weeks
Aaron
And in church you will use the wheelchair Yama! .. PLEASE!!
Got it casted. found another problem. full writeupbin doc thread.
Aaron
And use the wheelchair PLEASE. I know it's a pain and a pest and a nuisance and a plague, but it will give you at least a fighting chance of riding next season. So accept a little pain now for some long term gain. And you can paint the wheelchair ferrari red, or put GS500 stickers on it, or make it yours i any way you like. Just imagine what you can do!
Very pleased to hear that you don't need surgery! Some good news at last. Let's hope it keeps coming!
Chairs a rental. otherwise id do that lol.I wont be riding next season ( not been riding for several years ;( ) With the bone diagnosis other day, it was time to hang up the gear semi-permanently. mayby in this downtime, i can work on on the gs500e trike plans :icon_megreen:
Aaron
Another update: I can walk just fine, but my knee is burning and hurts. The break site hurts as well as tendon running up from my ankle. I had an MRI done last week and will find out what's going on on Monday. The pain is incapacitating and often have to sit down for an hour or so.
Idk the climate there BUT plan on arthritis.b even more if it rains and is cold then warm etc. ( post traumatic arthritis) i just got out of hosp. ( hosp acquired MRSA) IN ON 24TH out on 30th. severe pain under cast, i figured arthritis. then temp went to 101.9 lol. anyhoo broken bone arthritis, ortho will go into greater details on this. mine was never set like R one was but he says its healing, says braced shoes are going to happen, then ankle fusion. wtf. in your case im willing to guessit is still healing/strengthening, but arthritis will be a part of your life. ( weather/temp change related) ortho can figure out solutions to this.
Aaron.
Sorry rage, just allot of nothing to say, youre still healing. if it gets warmer, youll feel it. if colder same thing. a front coming in, youll feel it. with time, this will ease.
Aaron
I've been riding while its 30-40 degrees F and my knee is the main thing that gives me problems. Doc said to use a foam roller to break everything up, but that hurts worse haha
LMAO thats the truth.
Aaron
Foam roller! ... I hate hate those bastards devices!
But the doc is 100% right...
Just do as many rolls as you can max tolerate a couple times a day. . Within a single week you will notice improvement. ..
I tried to make between 5-10 rolls per set... 1st week was hell..
First day I was near tears. .. second day I swore a lot... third and 4th day was teeth clenched.... 5th and 6th were painful but manageable.... 2 days off and repeat schedule... end of 2nd week it was still sensitive but I could roll thru 10 ok...
Do I want to do it from initial pain levels ever again? No! ... I'd rather get kicked in the nuts!
But the effort was so VERY WORTH IT!
I also did a few days a week of bicycle riding on my MTB around local area... just easy pressure but consistent pedalling. .. first 10 mins each time were trying... pain twinges. . Once warmed up tho it was good! ... and the following days walking was very nice!
Its worth it bro! Promise!