I'm building up a project bike over the winter and am looking to dump the stock airbox/filter combination.
Does anyone have any experience with the cheap Chinese pod filters sold on eBay? Or should definitely go with the K&N filter?
Thanks!
DO NOT use cheap pods! I'm not just saying that because they are Chinese or whatever..... the rubber boot part of the filter is actually so thick it can block the upper passageways in the carbs (I think the Oval shaped hole that allows air to move the slides up and down).
And the chinese rubber cracks far too easily. BTW Pods itself are a rather dirty way to "filter" air for your motor.
Worse yet if the filter starts to disintegrate.
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Buddha.
So does anyone have a source or brand they like??
Quote from: 1034am on January 26, 2016, 11:00:55 AM
So does anyone have a source or brand they like??
do they have to be pods? and cheap?
Why not go with say K&N RU-2970?.. or the default filter?
I like the amount of room that pods free up. It's so much easier to get around under there, and offers space for relocation of some of the electronics (rectifier, etc.) It shouldn't be cheap.
Just has to look bad-a$$!
Bad A$$$ --- yea its pretty much invisible, so it will be an invisible bad a$$. You know its a Bad a$$, and that's wha tis important.
Put a few K&N stickers so people dont underestimate your bada$$iness.
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Buddha.
Don't forget all the space! Nothing is as bad-a$$ as working space!
Yea, You can carry a jug of milk back from the store. As soon as you take off the tank and put it in there. And you dont mind having boiled milk once you get home.
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Buddha.
don't put rectifier behind the engine...
it needs to be kept cool, not warmed up. :confused:
You answered your own question.
Here's something to read:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AqGw5MoZ78o/VU0ioAZn2WI/AAAAAAAAA-I/CQmjk8onz8s/s1600/emgopod.JPG)
Don't believe me? Here's a podcast of motorcycle mechanics discussing it:
http://podbay.fm/show/417396316/e/1431122455?autostart=1 (http://podbay.fm/show/417396316/e/1431122455?autostart=1)
On a GS there is ABSOLUTELY NO benefits in using them.
Don't ruin your bike by falling for the hipster trend, you'll be happy you left it unmolested.
Any hot rodders here???? Just purists? Where's the challenge in that?? lol
Ha! Jon, that picture is so funny..... because it's true. I can't tell you how many times I've seen those pods on a "show" bike. All show, no go.
Quote from: 1034am on January 26, 2016, 04:11:43 PM
Any hot rodders here???? Just purists? Where's the challenge in that?? lol
you can chase 4 HP... or an extra 10MPG.. the GS isn't a hot rod.
unless you're planning on turbocharging it getting it to a rev range of 20,000 RPM .. with hydraulic valve assembly there's no point.. if you want storage, get some saddlebags. hell make your own, its what I did.
PS: Does this look like a pure unmolested GS? no.. its not. not even a little bit.
A, still chasing that 60MPG game. [51 mpg currently need to raise the high jets a tad for better cruising MPG.] stock air box/filter and exhaust. my point is. you can do a lot with a GS without needing to touch the engine, its just not worth it.. chasing 4hp. buy a used 600 I4 or something if you want fast and fun.
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As discussed for years on this forum, if you need to remove the air box to feel cool, you can install a K&N "lunchbox" filter. Thats the RU-2970 model that J_Walker mentioned. It actually works well if you get the jetting correct (unlike pods) and may add a horsepower or two if you combine it with a full exhaust and correct carb jetting. Plus you get a cool intake growl and the K&N stickers.
Both the K&N or pods will shorten engine life compared to the stock air box with a OEM paper filter but if you have to pick one, go with the K&N lunchbox.
Quote from: 1034am on January 26, 2016, 04:11:43 PM
Any hot rodders here???? Just purists? Where's the challenge in that?? lol
:confused:
We love everything to do with the GS here, and if you want to make it into some kind of set-your-pants-on-fire track bike, we support you. We just err on the side of reason, as if you want a Suzuki sports bike of a similar displacement that you
can go crazy with, buy a GSX-600R. :dunno_black: :icon_lol:
No disrespect, but I'm not sure that the veteran wrench-turners and mechanics on here really want to spend forever attempting to console you after every wild idea you get results in a grenaded motor and a resulting trip to jaded-land. But hey, that's just my opinion! :wink:
You can do whatever you want with your bike; we just want to see a GS be ridden and enjoyed. :cheers:
I run cheap pods. They seem ok.
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What does it mean for something to be cheaply made?
Manufacturers who's aim is to undercut all competition achieve their end by reducing costs. One way costs are reduced is by having the smallest possible quality control department. Fewer people doing quality control means: fewer employees, fewer offices, fewer parts rejected due to manufacturing errors, lower energy consumption, lesser responsibilities for related departments like human resources, management, accounting. If possible a manufacturer may have zero people employed in quality control, some may hire a child to affix QA stickers to the bottom of their products.
A manufacturer can cut costs by eliminating research and product development. Simply copying the appearance of another product a manufacturer can make it appear that their product does what it was designed to do... except it wasn't designed, it is a facsimile, something that has the appearance of a designed product. This means that the air filter material in your cheap pods may be a material that has a similar appearance to designed products like K&N but that should give you little assurance that its performance is similar.
These are the two areas that affect consumers but there is no aspect of manufacturing that can't be gutted by sleazy money grabbers. Other ways manufacturers will cut costs is by offering little to no customer support, getting a local "English-speaking kid" to translate their instructions, or packaging and shipping items in the cheapest and riskiest fashion, infringing on patents and offering no compensation to patent holders, underpaying and overworking employees, refusing access to air conditioned work areas and breaks to employees. The list has no end.
If a company can lower their costs enough then they can still make a profit even if a large fraction of people return the product. So buy it through an online retailer that will allow returns, buy it if you are curious about this product, and send it back if it doesn't meet your standards.
Let us know how you get on.
Lucas
Quote from: The Buddha on January 26, 2016, 12:55:57 PM
Bad A$$$ --- yea its pretty much invisible, so it will be an invisible bad a$$. You know its a Bad a$$, and that's wha tis important.
Put a few K&N stickers so people dont underestimate your bada$$iness.
Cool.
Buddha.
Best post I've read so far!!! Buddha :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: