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Title: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Sdg on April 10, 2016, 02:10:51 PM
So I had many issues and worked al lof them out since I bought my bike, Today It was the first day I ever rode with a friend and not alone, and god it feels so awesome I love it.

But the fun ended quick, bike died and wont start again.



sound isnt great I can get a new video if needed

Help me please i'm loosing faith :'(
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Big Rich on April 10, 2016, 02:20:52 PM
 :dunno_black:

All I hear is the starter spinning the engine over, and wind noise on the mic. You were working on your clutch, correct? Have you been having any carb problems? And what about the valve clearances - have you checked those?
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Sdg on April 10, 2016, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: Big Rich on April 10, 2016, 02:20:52 PM
:dunno_black:

All I hear is the starter spinning the engine over, and wind noise on the mic. You were working on your clutch, correct? Have you been having any carb problems? And what about the valve clearances - have you checked those?

I repair teh clutch, battery is new aswell, I'll get a better video in 2 minutes. Carbs are working perfectly; well were at laest and I don't know what valve cleared is
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: ratz on April 10, 2016, 02:28:53 PM
stop turning it over.
take out your spark plugs, and turn it over. ( don't look down, because it will blast fuel out)
you may have fuel leaking into your cylinders. If you are leaking fuel into your cylinders, you may have a bad float needle or sticky floats.
While you have your plugs out, ground them against your cylinder fins and see if you have spark ( dont touch the plug, you'll shock yourself)do it it a dark room and remember the spark may not be that bright. if you don't have spark, you may have a bad coil.
move on to the carbs. it is a pain in the ass to clean the idle jets, but i use a sewing needle, and twist it into the jet( removed) until i can see a clear hole with light.
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Sdg on April 10, 2016, 02:32:15 PM


here you can hear the problem perfectly
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Big Rich on April 10, 2016, 03:16:32 PM
Yikes. Yeah, something is banging around in there. The fact that it won't start makes me want to guess your timing chain jumped a couple teeth and your valves are tapping the pistons.

Find the engine timing pictures in the service manual, and see if your engine matches up.
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Sdg on April 10, 2016, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Big Rich on April 10, 2016, 03:16:32 PM
Yikes. Yeah, something is banging around in there. The fact that it won't start makes me want to guess your timing chain jumped a couple teeth and your valves are tapping the pistons.

Find the engine timing pictures in the service manual, and see if your engine matches up.

Will do thank you so much for you help. This stuff is located on the left side correct ?
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Big Rich on April 10, 2016, 05:03:46 PM
Right side. You just did the clutch plates, correct? Well, the timing was to the right of the clutch. But you only have to take off the cover with the 3 bolts. You'llhave to take the head cover off as well (remove the seat, gas tank, etc.).
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Sdg on April 11, 2016, 07:00:20 AM
Quote from: Big Rich on April 10, 2016, 05:03:46 PM
Right side. You just did the clutch plates, correct? Well, the timing was to the right of the clutch. But you only have to take off the cover with the 3 bolts. You'llhave to take the head cover off as well (remove the seat, gas tank, etc.).

Do I have to remoove the oil in order to do that or not ?
At least I'm learning stuff :l .
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Big Rich on April 11, 2016, 07:26:51 AM
Nope. You shouldn't lose a drop of oil.
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Sdg on April 11, 2016, 09:00:08 AM
I'm at this point, what should I do now ?

(http://i.imgur.com/eGkowo0.jpg)
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: lucas on April 11, 2016, 09:45:24 AM
You should do a Google search for the Service Manual.  It has the instructions for setting the timing and almost any other maintenance task you can think of.

It's a great resource to learn how to care for your motorcycle.
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Sdg on April 11, 2016, 10:16:13 AM
Quote from: lucas on April 11, 2016, 09:45:24 AM
You should do a Google search for the Service Manual.  It has the instructions for setting the timing and almost any other maintenance task you can think of.

It's a great resource to learn how to care for your motorcycle.
Yes I have it but I Dont know where to look for the timing stuff
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: gsJack on April 11, 2016, 10:39:53 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/gs500signalgenerators_zps6gldzd0e.jpg)
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Big Rich on April 11, 2016, 10:42:56 AM
Well, you'll really need to find that section of the manual. Even if I give you an idea of the next step, I can't tell you in detail how to check the timing of the engine.

It will be in the engine disassembly / reassembly section, and it will have a drawing of the timing end of the crank, along with the camshafts & chain.

Edit: and GS Jack is on the ball! Thanks Jack.
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Sdg on April 11, 2016, 10:49:28 AM
Thanks you ! I just got done gettign my carb out, getting there, Kinda hard to understand ( wish english was my first language :L ) but hopefully i'll get the things done
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Sdg on April 11, 2016, 03:28:05 PM
One of the screw to get to the valve broke.

I give up Rip bike.
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Hupjai on April 11, 2016, 05:27:05 PM
Check out east out! Don't give up but it's always a good idea to take a break if you can. :3

You got it!  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Bluesmudge on April 11, 2016, 10:47:11 PM
Yeah, suzuki makes bolts out of clay just to make you mad.

You can buy a bolt extractor set and get them out! Its a small investment and you will use it in the future at some out. This will not be the last bolt you ever break.

Which bolt did you break exactly?
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: TheGreenWeenie on April 12, 2016, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Hupjai on April 11, 2016, 05:27:05 PM
Check out east out! Don't give up but it's always a good idea to take a break if you can. :3

You got it!  :woohoo:

Love my ez out kit. only once has it failed me and that's because the screw was so rusted, it may as well have been welded on.
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Hupjai on April 13, 2016, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: TheGreenWeenie on April 12, 2016, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Hupjai on April 11, 2016, 05:27:05 PM
Check out east out! Don't give up but it's always a good idea to take a break if you can. :3

You got it!  :woohoo:

Love my ez out kit. only once has it failed me and that's because the screw was so rusted, it may as well have been welded on.

What kit do you own? I've always wanted to pick up a solid kit.
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: TheGreenWeenie on April 13, 2016, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: Hupjai on April 13, 2016, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: TheGreenWeenie on April 12, 2016, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Hupjai on April 11, 2016, 05:27:05 PM
Check out east out! Don't give up but it's always a good idea to take a break if you can. :3

You got it!  :woohoo:

Love my ez out kit. only once has it failed me and that's because the screw was so rusted, it may as well have been welded on.

What kit do you own? I've always wanted to pick up a solid kit.

Ez out from home depot. Like 20 bucks. You'd need a power drill too if you don't own one already
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Hupjai on April 13, 2016, 07:59:45 PM
Quote from: TheGreenWeenie on April 13, 2016, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: Hupjai on April 13, 2016, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: TheGreenWeenie on April 12, 2016, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Hupjai on April 11, 2016, 05:27:05 PM
Check out east out! Don't give up but it's always a good idea to take a break if you can. :3

You got it!  :woohoo:

Love my ez out kit. only once has it failed me and that's because the screw was so rusted, it may as well have been welded on.

What kit do you own? I've always wanted to pick up a solid kit.

Ez out from home depot. Like 20 bucks. You'd need a pet drill too if you don't own one already

Sweet, thanks!

Good luck,  OP!
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Daeouse on April 13, 2016, 09:12:08 PM
Don't give up! You can do it!
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: bmf on April 14, 2016, 03:41:54 AM
Yeah, post a pic of the broken bolt. I am sure someone will have specific repair experience of that problem
Title: Re: Deseperate, starting to regret buying this bike.... help
Post by: Iarn on April 14, 2016, 09:51:48 AM
Guys, I think he threw his bike in the bin. Guess it's time to start the requiems  :sad: