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Title: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 08, 2016, 12:56:12 PM
Bought battery off eBay, just cheap one but shows the correct voltage, but now the bike will only start via jump leads to a car... Battery has on it 11ah, more expensive battery's are about 14ah, will this be the reason it won't start? Thanks in advance


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: lucas on June 08, 2016, 01:04:10 PM
ah are like a measure of the maximum capacity of the battery.

The battery you have might have too few CCA, cold cranking amps, which is like the max electrical current that is available to be used during starting.

You might have a defective battery, care to share the link for the product you bought?  Curious to see it
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 08, 2016, 01:22:23 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160608/849cf2355a22ad132e3879ae6e51f3dc.jpg) was same that was in bike when I got it, I just typed code it to find it, it shows as 12/13 when bike is turned off, and 14v when it's running if I remember correctly


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 08, 2016, 01:23:45 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160608/03720268439522980339547c1597f5b2.jpg) this is the one I was gonna order


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: Suzuki Stevo on June 08, 2016, 01:24:18 PM
Did you charge it after adding the electrolyte?

(First battery posted)
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: lucas on June 08, 2016, 01:26:59 PM
Have you charged it all the way up?  If you have a volt meter you should measure about 12.5 volts across the terminals.

Have you filled the battery with the included acid to between the two fill lines? 

You can take it to an auto parts store and have them test the functioning of your battery.  They could tell you if it is working or not.

Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: lucas on June 08, 2016, 01:29:37 PM
These no-name batteries seem kind of expensive.  As long as they accept returns and you're willing to ship defective units back I suppose it's alright... But personally I have lost my patience with buying knock off products through ebay.  Saving a few pennies while costing me my sanity.
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 08, 2016, 01:35:46 PM
I've had it charged properly and all set up, voltage meter was giving out correct readings I got told, it turns over but just won't fire without a jump from a car


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: fetor56 on June 08, 2016, 02:12:16 PM
Dynavolt YB10L-B2,160 cca....sorry man,not powerful enough.
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 08, 2016, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: fetor56 on June 08, 2016, 02:12:16 PM
Dynavolt YB10L-B2,160 cca....sorry man,not powerful enough.
Thanks mate, any recommendations?


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 08, 2016, 02:26:43 PM
The second pic has 175 cca? Will that work


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: gruntle on June 08, 2016, 02:35:47 PM
WATCH OUT: a lot of "GS500 compatible" batteries have the breather on the left instead of the right - they couldn't be faffed to check.
I bought a gel battery from Germany 3 years ago 'cos I was fed up to the back teeth with my acid battery not being up to scratch in Blighty's cold weather - it cost £50 quid but has NEVER let me down in THREE years and I've never recharged it either - buy cheap buy often, buy wise and grin :D ('speshly when it's effin freezing and you're late for work!) Do yourself a real, genuine, favour and buy a gel battery, seeeeeeriously...
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: gruntle on June 08, 2016, 02:40:02 PM
BTW, I ride all year round, sun, snow, rain, sleet, ice, you name it - no choice 'cos no other wheels..
CANNOT afford to be off the road.
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 08, 2016, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: gruntle on June 08, 2016, 02:35:47 PM
WATCH OUT: a lot of "GS500 compatible" batteries have the breather on the left instead of the right - they couldn't be faffed to check.
I bought a gel battery from Germany 3 years ago 'cos I was fed up to the back teeth with my acid battery not being up to scratch in Blighty's cold weather - it cost £50 quid but has NEVER let me down in THREE years and I've never recharged it either - buy cheap buy often, buy wise and grin :D ('speshly when it's effin freezing and you're late for work!) Do yourself a real, genuine, favour and buy a gel battery, seeeeeeriously...
Thanks mate, I'll get this one if 175 cca is enough power (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160608/f971b79e73f380032c30d6eb8a851a08.jpg)


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: fetor56 on June 08, 2016, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: scotty110788 on June 08, 2016, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: fetor56 on June 08, 2016, 02:12:16 PM
Dynavolt YB10L-B2,160 cca....sorry man,not powerful enough.
Thanks mate, any recommendations?


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Dunno what country your in......i bought this Lithium and found it to be excellent....240CCA.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SSB-LFP12Q-B-ULTRALITE-LITHIUM-CB12A-A-CB12A-B-CB10A-A2-12N12A-4A-1-MOTORCYCLE-/281159394930
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: gruntle on June 08, 2016, 03:03:45 PM
Just bin out to check - mine's a JMB10L-B2, can't remember spec but it had a pretty high cold crank rating.
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 08, 2016, 03:27:07 PM
Thanks for all help guys, 170 seems to be best I can find 👍🏻


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: fetor56 on June 08, 2016, 03:51:05 PM
Quote from: scotty110788 on June 08, 2016, 03:27:07 PM
Thanks for all help guys, 170 seems to be best I can find 👍🏻


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Think about it man.....the difference between 160 and 170 is not much and u have made an unwise $ decision already..............BUMP IT UP......POWER.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: Janx101 on June 08, 2016, 06:11:27 PM
Gel or AGM Batteries for the win!
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: prmas on June 08, 2016, 11:31:44 PM
If you need to start/run in very low temperatures a Lithium battery is not the best idea.
They work best at room temperature or higher. The CCA figure is "calculated" at room temperature, not tested at freezing.
Below 0C or 32F their performance drops off dramatically and they are reluctant to accept charge once running until they get warm. Have a read of the link below:

https://www.batterystuff.com/kb/articles/battery-articles/lifepo4-lithium-iron-powersport-batteries-cold-weather-performance.html

They have advantages but like most good ideas they also have disadvantages.
I am not saying don't buy one, just that the correct battery type for each bike depends on many variables.

Macka
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 09, 2016, 01:35:19 AM
It's about 15 degrees Celsius, I'm from the UK so not really that cold tbh lol


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 09, 2016, 01:39:42 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160609/357b96b3a69865a1de1146fae851fd68.jpg)

190 cca 👍🏻 even better


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: Atesz792 on June 09, 2016, 05:32:01 AM
But will it fit?
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 09, 2016, 06:21:11 AM
Quote from: Atesz792 on June 09, 2016, 05:32:01 AM
But will it fit?
Yea mate 👍🏻


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: The Buddha on June 09, 2016, 06:31:52 AM
If gel and agm are near about the same price - get a gel. AGM is not as good as gel both in terms of life and in terms of power/CCA. Just IMHO.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: Suzuki Stevo on June 09, 2016, 08:37:52 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on June 09, 2016, 06:31:52 AM
If gel and agm are near about the same price - get a gel. AGM is not as good as gel both in terms of life and in terms of power/CCA. Just IMHO.
Cool.
Buddha.

My '07 Burgman that was built in '06 still has the original AGM in it and is showing no signs of slowing down yet, I bought it's replacement (still on bench) only because 10 years is plenty of time to get out of a battery.

(Battery Tender Jr FTW)
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 15, 2016, 04:18:18 AM
So I got a agm battery 190cca and still not starting, me dad thinks it might be petrol issue but if that was case, it wouldn't start first click with jump from a car battery 😩


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: fetor56 on June 15, 2016, 05:31:21 AM
Strange....190cca is plenty of power.
What happens when u jump start it with the car battery then switch off,then try to start it with the bikes battery only?
Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: scotty110788 on June 15, 2016, 06:43:14 AM
Quote from: fetor56 on June 15, 2016, 05:31:21 AM
Strange....190cca is plenty of power.
What happens when u jump start it with the car battery then switch off,then try to start it with the bikes battery only?
I'll give that a go of the weather gets bit better later and let you know mate


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Title: Re: Battery help
Post by: Janx101 on June 16, 2016, 01:51:43 AM
With the new battery... does it turn over rapidly but not start? ... Or turn over slowly/sluggishly ?