Hi,
Will an instrument cluster from 04-09 work (plug in and everything) on a 2001 GS500?
I don't think so. IIRC they switched to an electronic tach instead of a mechanical.
If I'm wrong someone will be along shortly to correct me.
No, the new one is different. Watcher is correct...2003+ gauges use an electronic tach, not a cable one like the pre 2003 bikes. The speedo still uses a cable but you'd be without a tach...
Hey guy,
This thread (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=39131.0) describes how one or two others wired in the newer electrical tachometers onto "e" model GS500's. You'll need to pull the tachometer drive out of the front of the engine, but this part (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/26442-45000-TACHOMETER-HOLE-/282255329943?hash=item41b7ba8a97:g:iQkAAOSwKOJYKUOd) then replaces it
Chris
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Yeah, well, I suppose *anything* can be made to work (thanks for providing the link), but I guess we assumed they wanted a quick install. In the past, I considered an aftermarket digital setup, so yeah, you can get just about anything done if you want to bad enough.
Quote from: Andy.tech on January 23, 2017, 07:27:27 PM
(plug in and everything)
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Quote from: Sassy on January 24, 2017, 10:18:08 AM
Yeah, well, I suppose *anything* can be made to work (thanks for providing the link), but I guess we assumed they wanted a quick install. In the past, I considered an aftermarket digital setup, so yeah, you can get just about anything done if you want to bad enough.
Quote from: Andy.tech on January 23, 2017, 07:27:27 PM
(plug in and everything)
Yeah, fair enough. Figured I'd provide an alternative. It may not plug and play but after a little bit of tinkering with the wiring and replacing the tach drive with a plug then it could work. Maybe take a monday or friday off work so you have a three day weekend to tackle it...
Chris
Thank you, do you think it's worth changing from the mechanical to the electric tach?
Quote from: Andy.tech on January 25, 2017, 04:44:49 AM
Thank you, do you think it's worth changing from the mechanical to the electric tach?
I haven't yet, and I went to great lengths to repair my mechanical tach. I do have an electric one to eventually make the switch. Wiring is probably the thing I'm worst at in the whole world of all time, so until I can learn better, I'm going to enjoy the mechanical tach for a while.
Chris
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Realistically, unless you have the part already, the simplest thing is to get a mechanical one if that's how your bike started out. I think the best benefit of an electronic tach comes from the ability to update to a modern, completely digital dash (many aftermarket choices), though you should do whatever you really want. After all, it's your bike and you have to like it! :icon_mrgreen:
Cool beans!! Good thing to think about, the reason I ask is cause the bike I got both Tach and speedo are busted. But with all the things I need to fix maybe easy is a good thing. :thumb:
Quote from: Andy.tech on January 25, 2017, 08:41:16 PM
Cool beans!! Good thing to think about, the reason I ask is cause the bike I got both Tach and speedo are busted. But with all the things I need to fix maybe easy is a good thing. :thumb:
I wouldn't say it's going to be easy, sometimes projects that seem quite simple can be an absolute pig from start to finish, and when fixing a mechanical tach it could be something as simple as replacing the cable.
In my case however, I found that replacing the cable didn't work, and learned the little drive that protrudes from the cylinder head had snapped off flush so I couldn't pull it out, I had to push it out. When I took the valve cover off to push the drive out, I learned that the drive fits under the exhaust camshaft and I couldn't get to it without removing the camshaft. The exhaust camshaft has a little worm drive on it, threads on mine had broken off.
I bought a 2nd hand camshaft from eBay, removed the old one, poked and drilled out the broken tach drive (took about three hours), used a magnet to remove the camshaft chips from the wormdrive, installed the replacement camshaft, installed a replacement tach drive and I finally have a functioning mechanical tachometer.
I first took off the cable and started picking out the rubber sealant that someone had squirted in there and replaced the cable in August 2015. Finally got a confirmed working tach on 21st December 2016.
Chris
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Speaking from experience, Trying to find an aftermarket mechanical tach is a major PITA. There's some wierd stuff with rpm ratios and such so finding a new mechanical tach was super hard for mwe anyways. If you can repair the old or find a used oem tach its a quick switch, otherwise its easier to wire up an electric tach IMO.
I got a vapor digital dash and you just run the tach cable to one of the ignition coils with a resistor. Pretty quick job. Not sure what the work around for the suzuki gauges is like though.
Maybe Ill head out to the salvage yards and see if I can score me a Instrument cluster. But the mechanical ones are becoming harder to come by so if worst comes to worst I'll learn how to do the newer cluster.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-GS500E-GS-500-E-1988-2008-SPEEDO-CLOCKS-/302196925347?hash=item465c5723a3:g:4jMAAOSwNnRYe5kN
Chris
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Quote from: lefty1615 on January 26, 2017, 03:53:18 PM
There's some weird stuff with rpm ratios
That's mainly what I'm afraid of with buying a aftermarket instrument cluster.
Quote from: the_63 on January 27, 2017, 10:14:12 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-GS500E-GS-500-E-1988-2008-SPEEDO-CLOCKS-/302196925347?hash=item465c5723a3:g:4jMAAOSwNnRYe5kN
Chris
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Thank you Chris!!