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Title: No longer need choke after re-jetting, is this right?
Post by: Darkstar on February 06, 2017, 02:32:17 PM
I just jetted 20/60/132.5, one o-ring on the needles, and mixture screw 2 turns out. I now have better throttle response, a more linear power band, and maybe even some more WOT power. It idles smooth and starts without choke in 45F weather, which is new. So, it's much richer than before. Im happy, but I'm curious: was the choke/enricher added by Suzuki to manage the lean factory setup? Would a properly jetted bike not need a choke?
Title: Re: No longer need choke after re-jetting, is this right?
Post by: 1018cc on February 06, 2017, 02:37:12 PM
In my opinion a properly jetted bike should need choke in order to start from stone cold. My opinion is yours is now way too rich. With all the carburetted cars I've had and other carby bikes, they've all needed the choke to start properly.

How long have you ridden it for - does it foul plugs / what do the plugs look like after you've taken it for a reasonable run?
Title: Re: No longer need choke after re-jetting, is this right?
Post by: The Buddha on February 06, 2017, 02:50:56 PM
Your floats are likely high.
Or air screws weren't seated fully before you turned em out 2 turns.

Or an air passage is blocked, that can make it richer just @ idle.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: No longer need choke after re-jetting, is this right?
Post by: J_Walker on February 06, 2017, 03:39:28 PM
Quote from: 1018cc on February 06, 2017, 02:37:12 PM
In my opinion a properly jetted bike should need choke in order to start from stone cold. My opinion is yours is now way too rich. With all the carburetted cars I've had and other carby bikes, they've all needed the choke to start properly.

How long have you ridden it for - does it foul plugs / what do the plugs look like after you've taken it for a reasonable run?

my SV was rich down-low and never needed choke with the ridiculous jetting I had on it, Never flooded, and maintained a 40mpg just fine. nice thing was it started up without choke no problem.
Title: Re: No longer need choke after re-jetting, is this right?
Post by: mr72 on February 06, 2017, 03:52:15 PM
you should need the choke to start. if not, the idle mixture is way rich for some reason. Buddha has the right answer.
Title: Re: No longer need choke after re-jetting, is this right?
Post by: Darkstar on February 06, 2017, 07:35:36 PM
...he usually does :) 

I just realized my air filter is old. I'll drop a new one in tomorrow so it can breathe a bit easier, then I'll try again. I also learned that the head of the screwdriver bit Im using to turn the mixture screws is quite wide, so it was bumping into the threads. I filed it down. I'll give it another shot tomorrow morning.